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I haven't seen a thread that discusses about the GSTL compared to the GSL and let me start off with, WOW HOLY CRAP TODAY'S GSTL GAMES WERE AWESOME!
Every now and then I read the LR thread for GSTL and seems like everyone agrees that the team leagues produce much more exciting games than regular gsl. Why is this so? We even see lesser cheese unless it is totally needed, + Show Spoiler +MC about to all kill until MMA cheesed him to get slayers to go through 4-3
It also feels that GSTL creates more of a connection between the viewers and the teams. Like last GSTL slayers did poorly for the first round and i'm sure some of us went 'yeah these guys are overhyped, bad and just spammed with sponsors cause boxer is leading it. they're not good.' but wow did they totally wreck shit up in this GSTL. Also the ceremonies, celebrations and player reactions to the games are pretty exciting to watch. Seeing stuff like people starting to think that boxer is grooming up MMA to be the next oov is really something.
Even the GSL finals compared to GSTL finals for last season is a huge difference. I don't wanna spoil the previous GSTL finals but with stuff like 70 supply deficit tvt come back from god knows where, 2 Motherships and an archon toilet, 45 min back and forth tvp game etc I think you guys know where im heading.
I think GSTL should be a full league where you get all the teams that are currently in GSTL and add Team Liquid and MVP (Genius, Guineapig,DRG's team) it could be exciting to watch. We've always been hearing about these awesome players from respective teams who are so good but just aren't in GSL code A or S so maybe this could be a chance for those guys to show that they're living up to their hype?
Poll: Which do you prefer GSTL or GSL?GSTL (812) 88% GSL (109) 12% 921 total votes Your vote: Which do you prefer GSTL or GSL? (Vote): GSL
(Vote): GSTL
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If people wanted teamgames there would be pro 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 tournaments. Do you currently see any? Face it the top players in each team will mostly dislike the idea where mediocre players would love the idea to have an opportunity to win titles with their team based game.
In the end you will get shoved single player or team games by the biggest organization. And either you love it or hate it, you will have to accept it. Imo Sc/2 is a single player competitive game.
Will probably get a lot flames for saying this...
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On March 24 2011 00:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
If people wanted teamgames there would be pro 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 tournaments. Do you currently see any? Face it the top players in each team will mostly dislike the idea where mediocre players would love the idea to have an opportunity to win titles with their team based game.
In the end you will get shoved single player or team games by the biggest organization. And either you love it or hate it, you will have to accept it. Imo Sc/2 is a single player competitive game.
Will probably get a lot flames for saying this...
..................... do you even know what the GSTL is? >.>
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On March 24 2011 00:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
If people wanted teamgames there would be pro 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 tournaments. Do you currently see any? Face it the top players in each team will mostly dislike the idea where mediocre players would love the idea to have an opportunity to win titles with their team based game.
In the end you will get shoved single player or team games by the biggest organization. And either you love it or hate it, you will have to accept it. Imo Sc/2 is a single player competitive game.
Will probably get a lot flames for saying this...
You should be banned for an inability to read.
Ontopic: Totally agree, SlayerS coming out and all the amazing games is indeed a spectacle. It seems players play better when the focus on the team aspect.
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On March 24 2011 00:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
If people wanted teamgames there would be pro 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 tournaments. Do you currently see any? Face it the top players in each team will mostly dislike the idea where mediocre players would love the idea to have an opportunity to win titles with their team based game.
In the end you will get shoved single player or team games by the biggest organization. And either you love it or hate it, you will have to accept it. Imo Sc/2 is a single player competitive game.
Will probably get a lot flames for saying this...
I think OP means team games are in the context of team vs team 1v1s like the GSTL. In Brood War, this term was mixed in with "Proleague".
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On March 24 2011 00:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
If people wanted teamgames there would be pro 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 tournaments. Do you currently see any? Face it the top players in each team will mostly dislike the idea where mediocre players would love the idea to have an opportunity to win titles with their team based game.
In the end you will get shoved single player or team games by the biggest organization. And either you love it or hate it, you will have to accept it. Imo Sc/2 is a single player competitive game.
Will probably get a lot flames for saying this...
I think you mistook what I meant, 1v1 Team Leagues like round-robin style not 2v2/3v3/4v4 etc 
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On March 24 2011 00:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
If people wanted teamgames there would be pro 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 tournaments. Do you currently see any? Face it the top players in each team will mostly dislike the idea where mediocre players would love the idea to have an opportunity to win titles with their team based game.
In the end you will get shoved single player or team games by the biggest organization. And either you love it or hate it, you will have to accept it. Imo Sc/2 is a single player competitive game.
Will probably get a lot flames for saying this...
Do you know what you're talking about at all :|
I hope the SC2 proscene evolves into like the BW proscene with a huge team league so that there are more opportunities for new talents to show games. The team league format is awesome too.
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yeahi like the teamleague. but i have to say that it has something to do with the time schedulde the gsl is using. an individual league for only 1 month takes away a lot of hype :/
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I thoroughly enjoy the team league. Every team league match is so exciting for me, I'm constantly pumped to see people who depend on each other triumph or fail! It's also a good way to showcase talent that for one reason or another isn't in Code A/S.
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Team leagues are always more exciting than individual leagues unless it's the semi-finals or finals with the best players IMO. The most anticipated date in the BW calendar is the Proleague finals, followed by the Winner's League finals and FvJ OSL/MSL finals.
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I think yeah gstl more exciting than gsl
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I know very well what he means by teamgames. But 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 are meant by blizz to be teamgames. What does MC for example gain from (gstl) teamgames?
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On March 24 2011 00:13 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I know very well what he means by teamgames. But 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 are meant by blizz to be teamgames. What does MC for example gain from (gstl) teamgames?
Admit you didnt know it, because If you knew it, your first post was pretty fucking retarded (Just like this one)
I think GSL TL is waaaaay more exiting than normal GSL. I really love the personality, the BM and the ceremonies.
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On March 24 2011 00:13 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I know very well what he means by teamgames. But 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 are meant by blizz to be teamgames. What does MC for example gain from teamgames?
I'll take that as a no......
They mean that the team players are on (like ogs for ogsmc), battles against other team in a 1v1 bo7, winner stays format.
So for example:
OGS - IM
Inca - MVP
TOP - MVP
TOP - Nestea '
Ensnare - Nestea
MC - Nestea
MC - Losira
MC - Seed
Randomly making stuff up here but that's an example of how the GSTL format would work.
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i think Proleague style is just way healthier and sustainable for the sc2 pro scene as well as being more exciting. So far the GSTL has been totally awesome, same as the past one. It had so many cool games and memorable moments.
Having a teamleague will also justify having a lot of players on the rosters. As it stands right now, we barely see half of these awesome guys who are obviously talented and skillful. Yet, in individual leagues such as GSL ( or MSL/OSL), there are so few spots that all these talented players are having zero exposure and if a team has limited budget, it will be hard to sustain the salaries of so many players.
I hope the team league become more prominent in the future.
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On March 24 2011 00:13 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I know very well what he means by teamgames. But 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 are meant by blizz to be teamgames. What does MC for example gain from (gstl) teamgames?
This post might be worse than your first...
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On March 24 2011 00:13 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I know very well what he means by teamgames. But 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 are meant by blizz to be teamgames. What does MC for example gain from (gstl) teamgames?
just get out of the thread.
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His team wins, he gets to show that he's the best?
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Shinobi you dont get what xza is writing. Teamgames are still 1v1 but the result is determine by which team gets for example 4 wins. Team sends players to a 1v1 match. Winner of the match stays. Loser gets replaced.
And about those "medicore" players.... You know some of the most impressive games of SC2 had Code B players playing. Also teamgames offer a lot of variety of plays. People have like 1-2 minutes to prepare themselves for a match not like couple of days so instant decision by players and coaches are crucial. Not to mention there is lots of interaction between players and its all shown... In regular GSL you see player in booth than doing the interview and its all.
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I like GSTL more than GSL. I like the drama :D
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