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tarath
Profile Joined April 2009
United States377 Posts
March 24 2011 04:49 GMT
#161
I love them both, but would have to agree that the GSTL just brings more drama. The team vs team dynamic of picking players and the variety in styles that you get to see makes the whole experience more exciting.

I also love watching the new players you've never heard of come out of no where and show amazing skill.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
March 24 2011 04:56 GMT
#162
I'm a big fan of both, but the added strategy of picking your players and maps and who to open with adds so much drama and excitement. I really love hearing Tastosis expound upon the good and bad picks and who they would have gone with too.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 24 2011 04:57 GMT
#163
i think i enjoy the gstl because the level of play is surprisingly high. Code B and Code A players are wrecking Code S players within the GSTL. At first I was reluctant to watch Code B teammates go against the best of the GSL, but boy was I wrong. A lot of the code b players are Code S material!
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 24 2011 05:00 GMT
#164
the GSTL is cool because its not so "sudden death".. like MC could potentially go in first, and lose.. yet the next day, as long as his team won, we would see MC again. This leads to repeat matches of our favorite players, such as MMA who we've got to see great play from 2 days in a row!

GSL is fun, but once your favorite player is out, hes out for the season. Thats not fun.

I'd love to see a Proleague team setup soon that is like the BW style, a full season of weekly matches, with a playoffs at the end. That'd be stretched out longer, giving us more amazing games every week.. not just 4 days of GSTL
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
March 24 2011 05:02 GMT
#165
thats true i never thought abou it like that. Your fav player definitely can lose and still get a team win and be right back in next match.
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Jerb
Profile Joined July 2010
United States21 Posts
March 24 2011 05:04 GMT
#166
GSTL for a couple reasons. Players are fighting as teams, theres a certain pride and comradery that comes from all it. I think we get to see some more personality from players such as when Rainbow went BC's against Maka. He was just screwing around. But we also get to see a lot of diamond in the rough players that are amazing, but haven't been in the GSL quite yet.
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MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
March 24 2011 05:19 GMT
#167
They should make 2 gstl's each season because they are soo short.
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
March 24 2011 05:23 GMT
#168
On March 24 2011 14:19 MuTT wrote:
They should make 2 gstl's each season because they are soo short.


Well 2 gstls would be weird having a team win and then redoing it all over again suddenly. A better approach if you want more games would be to have 2 groups of 4 teams, and a group stage where the teams play each other in each group, and the top 2 advance to make ro4.
daimyo
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
77 Posts
March 24 2011 05:25 GMT
#169
GSTL is more exciting for me.
That is the case in Brood War too. I like Proleague more overall and MSL/OSL finals only.
Proleague is the real excitement for me, so is GSTL.

Jacko11
Profile Joined November 2010
China146 Posts
March 24 2011 05:26 GMT
#170
One great part of the GSLTLs is that there won't be any annoying team kills which both players and spectators don't enjoy
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
March 24 2011 05:32 GMT
#171
GSTL should be extended to a full league rather than a single elim tournament imo
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
March 24 2011 05:35 GMT
#172
I find GSTL alot more exciting than the regular gsl and i feel like they can make it so much more awesome
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
March 24 2011 05:41 GMT
#173
GSTL is more entertaining for me. Get to see more varied strategies and the drama is nice, too.
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MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
March 24 2011 06:39 GMT
#174
On March 24 2011 14:23 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 14:19 MuTT wrote:
They should make 2 gstl's each season because they are soo short.


Well 2 gstls would be weird having a team win and then redoing it all over again suddenly. A better approach if you want more games would be to have 2 groups of 4 teams, and a group stage where the teams play each other in each group, and the top 2 advance to make ro4.

Yeah i agree. I just want more of them
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Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
March 24 2011 06:56 GMT
#175
In GSTL you're guaranteed to see the best players from each team, and you get to see them against a variety of different opponents in the same night, whereas Code S doesn't even contain the best players any more because it's so hard to qualify for and so easy to get cheesed out of.

Also one sided matches are far more exciting in team league, for example I was thrilled when I saw Losira all kill Zenex, but seeing MC 4-1 July wasn't nearly as exciting.

My vote is for GSTL
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Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
March 24 2011 08:19 GMT
#176
What I like the most about GSTL is how much of a baller Artosis is as a coach, his decisions, most of the time, have coincided with what the winning coaches have done (bar the all-kill ofc). He should be the "Rest of the World" coach in the upcoming GSL WC

Also, is it me, or do they cast this a bit more joyfully? I don't remember laughing as much to their casts as the past three days (I didn't catch too much of the first GSTL).

Plus, I think with the amount of upsets and the complete dominance of MC in GSL season five, GSTL, although unexpectedly much better, was bound to excite more people. I mean, when so many of the top contenders are out in the first round, the season becomes more of a "let's see who 'sucks' less" and less of a "ZOMG, ZOMG, if X player loses/wins the next map, we may very well have a clash of titans between Y and Z in the next round" and stuff like that. Or so I think.

Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 08:24:41
March 24 2011 08:23 GMT
#177
I was always more of a Proleague guy, so I find GSTL matches more fun for sure. I'm not a fan of the current GSTL tournament format though, but it'll probably evolve into an actual league sooner or later.

On March 24 2011 17:19 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
What I like the most about GSTL is how much of a baller Artosis is as a coach, his decisions, most of the time, have coincided with what the winning coaches have done (bar the all-kill ofc). He should be the "Rest of the World" coach in the upcoming GSL WC


That's actually a fantastic idea. I can't think of a better person for the job.
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
March 24 2011 08:35 GMT
#178
I would love to see GSTL invite foreigner teams like Mouz, Fnatic, Eg, etc. It would be awesome. Also make GSTL like proleague, boost a little bit the pricepool to make it more prestigious and maybe Teams will work their ass of to get good results.

One can dream...
kagemucha
Profile Joined August 2010
United States326 Posts
March 24 2011 08:42 GMT
#179
Still laughing at the 1st post troll xD

I love the GSTL! Wish it was longer than ~4 days and included other teams. Heck, even foreigner teams. TL, Dignitas, EG, etc.? That would be awesome.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 24 2011 08:50 GMT
#180
Would be nice if GSTL was more like Winner's League but guess the GSL schedule doesn't really allow for that. I still prefer just watching the GSL though.
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