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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
March 24 2011 13:49 GMT
#201
I hadn't watched it before, but team leaque is awesome.

I much prefer this over all those code b/a/s leagues.

It's like those old pokemon games you know, send out 1 pokemon that's specifically good vs another :d.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 24 2011 13:52 GMT
#202
I know they kind of lack the number of teams to pull it off, but I really think Gom should try to find a big name sponsor to set up an actual proleague instead of just single elimination bracket tournaments. A few round robin rounds and a 4 team playoff seems like it could work.
Remember Violet.
Synchro
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines52 Posts
March 24 2011 13:54 GMT
#203
Team leagues imho gives starcraft 2 more depth in terms of strategies. Especially from the games i watched today, it's really more interesting to see who gets to compete against who. Even tastosis talked about the match ups a lot... damn better than individual leagues for me at least.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
March 24 2011 13:55 GMT
#204
I really hope they introduce a bigger team league to span the month. That would be absolutely awesome. All teams play each other twice and top 4 advance to the finals. Maybe introduce more teams too.
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 14:00:58
March 24 2011 14:00 GMT
#205
GSTL is more fun to watch live, the suspense, the clinchers, something about being there when it happens that makes it soo worth watching.

GSL I find I can watch on my own time, I don't miss a whole lot by not watching live, upsets in Team vs Team is much more interesting to watch than upsets in 1v1
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
March 24 2011 14:00 GMT
#206
On March 24 2011 22:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I know they kind of lack the number of teams to pull it off, but I really think Gom should try to find a big name sponsor to set up an actual proleague instead of just single elimination bracket tournaments. A few round robin rounds and a 4 team playoff seems like it could work.


true but with sc2 on the rise in china (i believe the beta is about to start for them) and taiwan having like 5 new teams, it could really be a start of something huge for sc2 in korea especially when the chinese fans start making their own progaming teams like for example .WE (loner's team).
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 24 2011 14:02 GMT
#207
On March 24 2011 22:55 ComusLoM wrote:
I really hope they introduce a bigger team league to span the month. That would be absolutely awesome. All teams play each other twice and top 4 advance to the finals. Maybe introduce more teams too.


I'm sure they'll eventually do that, but at this young stage of the game they probably just want to build quick excitement/exposure with instant playoff formats. It helps increase their viewer base and get an attachment rate to the teams and players before going on to a seasonal format.

Also there are already quite a few more teams, they just weren't top8 in points.
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emesen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States256 Posts
March 24 2011 14:04 GMT
#208
GSTL is much better than the regular leagues. There is an external strategic component to the Team League in addition to the regular in game strategy.

prime example of that line of thought was SlayerS throwing nothing but terrans at MVP. Whether it was to wear him down or reveal to their ace guy what he could expect it was a definite strategic decision.

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kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
March 24 2011 14:08 GMT
#209
No GSL, no ground work for GSTL.

<3 Gom, keep up great work!
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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 14:09:21
March 24 2011 14:08 GMT
#210
On March 24 2011 22:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I know they kind of lack the number of teams to pull it off, but I really think Gom should try to find a big name sponsor to set up an actual proleague instead of just single elimination bracket tournaments. A few round robin rounds and a 4 team playoff seems like it could work.


Well the proleague only has 10 teams in it while GSTL has 8 teams so something could definitely be done (and should be done imo)
Team leagues are more exciting from a spectator point of view, even if they dont carry the same prestige as the OSL or MSL (or GSL in this case)
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Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
March 24 2011 14:10 GMT
#211
I loved GSTL this time, way better then GSL. But mayby it just got something to do with SlayerS winning and me not liking MC. Ooh wel
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tehplank
Profile Joined October 2010
977 Posts
March 24 2011 14:11 GMT
#212
I agree that the GSTL brings much more excitement than the individual leagues. My Silver league knowledge can't explain it, but for two straight seasons, the GSTL has never failed to entertain me.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 24 2011 14:16 GMT
#213
On March 24 2011 23:08 Louuster wrote:
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On March 24 2011 22:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I know they kind of lack the number of teams to pull it off, but I really think Gom should try to find a big name sponsor to set up an actual proleague instead of just single elimination bracket tournaments. A few round robin rounds and a 4 team playoff seems like it could work.


Well the proleague only has 10 teams in it while GSTL has 8 teams so something could definitely be done (and should be done imo)
Team leagues are more exciting from a spectator point of view, even if they dont carry the same prestige as the OSL or MSL (or GSL in this case)


To pull something off as regular proleague you would need a large fanbase and a sponsor willing to fund it, I am not certain but I don't think Starcraft 2 in general has reached that point of popularity in South-Korea as of yet. I mean with all due respect I didn't see that many fans nor have the impression that Starcraft 2 is vastly popular among the korean audience, even though they have great names such as Boxer and Nada. Sc2 is not an integrated part of the korean culture(yet), I don't think it will be easy to find a sponsor who would be willing to fund it as of now. When Sc2 grows more popular, then proleague has a much larger chance of being created.

Offtopic: as an advid Brood War fan I was impressed with the quality of the games today, TvT is more exciting in SC2(most of the time) then in SC1
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imnotwearingpants
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
March 24 2011 14:18 GMT
#214
In the GSTL, you see titans play and mortals slay. Part of the appeal for me is the frequency of top code S players pitted against unknowns. Out of the lion's den, heroes are born.
World War 1 was started by the assasination of R2-D2
Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 14:24:42
March 24 2011 14:21 GMT
#215
GSTL is way more exciting! But when your gonna pin point the best player GSL is better since GSTL is BO1. But GSTL is more fun for sure.

GSTL would be so amazing if they invited foreigner teams. Shouldent be so hard to do since GSTL doesnt last that many days. Not like GSL that lasts a whole month.
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
March 24 2011 14:23 GMT
#216
I like GSL way more then GSTL. There is much more preparation in the games from the players and it doesn't feel as random, overall just a bit better quality imo.
GSTL however has been very fortunate to get much more exciting series and very dramatic games (not good per se).

Teams in what is mainly a 1v1 sport just never makes sense to me. It's like the davis cup in tennis or relay races in swimming and athletics. The players themselves don't take them too serious and they are simply not prestigious, which is by the way the reason they are always late during the olympics otherwise none of the great athletes would be competing in them.
Team events are more dramatic but there simply isn't the same prestige as in 1v1 events and the drama is always forced by choosing a wacky format.
For example in athletics the best teams often lose the relay race because of dropping the estafet baton. In GSTL the drama is forced by having this strange winner stays on format where a great player can be knocked out for their team by losing just 1 game. It would make way more sense to just let the teams choose 4 or 5 players and let those play a BO3 against eachother, but that isn't as dramatic thus this format was taken.

GSTL is very entertaining and has more upsets then the normal GSL but GSL itself is still much higher quality. That may make it a bit more boring but I still prefer it. I rather watch wimbledon then the davis cup...
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 24 2011 14:24 GMT
#217
GSTL is definetely more fun and exciting.

+ Show Spoiler +
seeing SlayerS win GSTL was the most epic moment in SC2 up to date. The underdogs beat oGs, ST and IM and a code A player like MMA stepped up taking down MC, July and Mvp in the Ace match of the final. Incredible!!!!
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
March 24 2011 14:25 GMT
#218
On March 24 2011 22:49 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 22:46 bmml wrote:
Wish they made a concerted effort to make a real teamleague like SPL, GSTL is kinda lackluster being only a week long.

But in a way, it's so much more epic.. it's like the playoffs after the regular season in BW.



Still not a fan, I'd prefer playoffs to mean something not just to be based upon like 3 bo5's.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
March 24 2011 14:25 GMT
#219
On March 24 2011 00:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
If people wanted teamgames there would be pro 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 tournaments. Do you currently see any? Face it the top players in each team will mostly dislike the idea where mediocre players would love the idea to have an opportunity to win titles with their team based game.

In the end you will get shoved single player or team games by the biggest organization. And either you love it or hate it, you will have to accept it. Imo Sc/2 is a single player competitive game.

Will probably get a lot flames for saying this...

User was warned for this post


Talk about stupidity...
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 24 2011 14:26 GMT
#220
The team league format is far superior.
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