EPTGSTL more exciting than individual GSL? - Page 13
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
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robin19999
Netherlands246 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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FOUTWENTYSIXTY
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
Something that might spice up the regular GSL is to have a "tournament of champions". After we've accumulated 8 different GSL champions, throw them in a tournament together; three rounds, all best of 7 (maybe best of 5 for the first round). Imagine MVP, MC, FruitDealer, NesTea and four other GSL champs battling it out. That would produce some top quality games. Or you could take a group of GSL champs and do some sort of round-robin so that there is constant variety in match-ups. Either way, putting together a tournament with just the best of the best of the best should definitely produce quality games. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On March 24 2011 23:50 MapleLeafSirup wrote: I think this is really random The most important factor is the entertainment value of the games and GTSL produced better games this season e.g. In GTSL the final was score was 5-4 with an epic 30minutes deciding game while the GSL final was a one-sided rape If it was the other way round, the poll would look extremly different No it's different. In GSL, if you have a 5-0 it's a clear game. One player dominating the other, either because of matchup (one plays his best, the other his worst), or one player just not having a good day. In GSTL, you have an all kill. One player dominating a lot of other races (not just one matchup) and also dealing with possible snipers, who only trained to kill you. Another point is concentration and stamina. If you dont have to play BO 7/9 you can go all out during one game, go to great lengths to try to comeback. If you lose it doesnt change anything (hell you even exhaust your opponent more), but if you win you have gotten one more point for your team. It doesnt matter that you would fall apart in the next game. In a GSL situation it would be more logical to get over with the loss and concentrate on the next games, so most players dont look for those "epic comebacks". So I'd say GSTLs have greater potential to be more epic compared to normal GSLs. It's also more fun to see a bunch of guys be happy about a win & doing their ceremonies compared to a single guy standing there & kissing his trophy (FBH of SC2 where are you?). | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
I hope GOM will consider making the team league a more central point of their season. Or at least make it on par with the individual leagues. As mentioned all over this thread, various reasons such as sniping, race dynamic, stamina, maps make the potential of drama in a team league way more likely. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:50 CaptainFwiffo wrote: The biggest problem with most of the GSL finals so far is that one side of the bracket usually produces a much stronger finalist than the other. Other than Fruitdealer's run, which was such a Cinderella story at a time when Zerg was so weak, and NesTea, which was a close 7-game finals, they've been pretty lopsided. Something that might spice up the regular GSL is to have a "tournament of champions". After we've accumulated 8 different GSL champions, throw them in a tournament together; three rounds, all best of 7 (maybe best of 5 for the first round). Imagine MVP, MC, FruitDealer, NesTea and four other GSL champs battling it out. That would produce some top quality games. Or you could take a group of GSL champs and do some sort of round-robin so that there is constant variety in match-ups. Either way, putting together a tournament with just the best of the best of the best should definitely produce quality games. GOM doesn't have a tournament of champions setup, but they do have a tournament where invites will be based off of points accrued in GSL tournaments and top 10 players will be invited. It's basically a tournament that awards bonuses for good performance over the 2011 GSL schedule. 5) Blizzard Cup (1 tournament a year in December) – Invitational - The top 10 players of the point ranking of that year will play in a play-off type tournament. - Day 1 : 10th place vs. 9th place, Day 2 : Winner vs. 8th place and so on. - There will be 1 best of 7 matches a day Blizzard Cup 10th place : 1,500,000won 9th place : 3,000,000won 8th place : 5,000,000won 7th place : 7,000,000won 6th place : 9,000,000won 5th place : 12,000,000won 4th place : 15,000,000won 3rd place : 20,000,000won Runner-up : 30,000,000won (~$26,819.25) Champion : 50,000,000won (~$44,698.75) pretty sick to get at least 26.8K if you top the points total at the end of the year | ||
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HavoK.
United States172 Posts
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sevia
United States954 Posts
Cheese and all-in games are much more exciting when you know there will almost definitely be macro games to back it up. Individual leagues are exciting, but it's kind of a bummer to see your favorite player get knocked out in two games and then be gone forever. | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
Like, team A puts out a player that is known to be really agressive, and team B puts in a more macro-oriented player that would dominate if the game went on, but it does not and thus he is eliminated. If it was normal GSL, he would either have to choose a style he is uncomfertable with, but with GSTL the team chooses the next hero to go on the battlefield by choosing a player that can cope with the style of Team A's current player. It adds much more excitement to think around which player that can be chosen, compared to what build a player might use. And ceremonies is kind of cooler to  . | ||
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Freebirdo7
United States163 Posts
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Alver
United States177 Posts
aside from that this gtsl has too many terrans, i think i heard in yesterdays gtsl that its been 65%~ terrans playing so far =\ imo one of the best things about a team league is your more likely to get good class balance than a single elimination bracket but it doesnt seem to be the case for some reason.. | ||
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
Sc2 doesn't have this kind of viability yet, i guess because of the fact that it is not on a national tv station. I know it is showed on Hanibi or something, but it's not big enough of a tv station to justify the investment. The situation with Blizzard and the two gaming stations doesn't help that at all. I guess we can all hope for the situation to be solved fast, so that the SC2 exposure expand beyond the internet. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
And now I'm so scared of a MMA vs MVP in code A round 1, or any other matchup where 2 GSTL "stars" players will fight...usually I'm against bracket fixing, but I hope GOM will do something to avoid this. For instance, they should allow the MVP players (players who have been awarded a MVP for a GSTL day) to choose their opponent for instance. Or seed them so they can't fight each other in round one. | ||
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Eluadyl
Turkey364 Posts
I think team matches are easier to follow because teams provide a larger center of attention than a bunch of individuals. This leads to the feeling of more excitement imho. I could be wrong though. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
Right now, the GOM tournaments are quite linear. GSL to GSTL to GSL, alternating without overlapping with a few cool events thrown in there like the World Team League. This is much unlike BW, where Proleague would be run regularly alongside and parallel to the OSL and MSL, thus allowing us to sometimes have up to 3 events running alongside simultaneously. I really hope that some sort of broadcasted SC2 team league can be created to run parallel to the actual GSL so that we can get more of this awesomeness. | ||
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Tiax;mous
669 Posts
On March 25 2011 03:38 MrCon wrote: And now I'm so scared of a MMA vs MVP in code A round 1 Naaah don't worry , + Show Spoiler + it'll be MVP vs Leenock at first round Kidding aside , I'm pretty sure GOM will reconsider a bigger team league idea if GSTL subscription numbers get high enough. I mean they don't have the luxury to do whatever they want after all , they have to ( and probably gladly ) please their costumers and viewer base. On the other hand , I feel a big portion of GSL viewers doesn't even know about GSTL. Of course most of the TL users know & love it but I doubt it's that well known among casual followers. GSTL needs more ad , love and hype I guess. | ||
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Lori.
Germany97 Posts
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