EPTSo it's retarded to believe what people say? I think Tyler and Strelok are smart enough to express their own thoughts accurately.
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
So it's retarded to believe what people say? I think Tyler and Strelok are smart enough to express their own thoughts accurately. | ||
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storm8ring3r
Germany227 Posts
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underdawg
United States399 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:36 Pokebunny wrote: So it's retarded to believe what people say? I think Tyler and Strelok are smart enough to express their own thoughts accurately. yes, in this situation | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On March 17 2011 00:07 Rob28 wrote: The league is located on the internet. LAN tournies and such will be isolated to NA, sure, but the league itself is accessable from anywhere an internet connection can be established. And generally any organization that includes a place in it's name has membership confined to that place. Find me an example of one where the majority of members are from outside the location that the name specifically refers to (as it would be were NASL to have unrestricted access by Korean gamers), and I'll retract my statement. Another example would be like basically every sports team in the world. For instance you don't even have to be from Canada, and not even from Toronto to play for Toronto maple leaves in hockey. The NA server is considered to be inferior to both the EU and the Korean server, so it simply wouldn't be as interesting to watch. Having the best players competing helps the tournament having a grace of being really legit. | ||
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dkim
United States255 Posts
if you are a true competitor you would want to be competing with the best, that's all. | ||
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zasda
381 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:33 underdawg wrote: i don't get the whole "care about this tournament" bullshit either. the players' jobs are to play and win. it's the organizers' jobs to promote the tournament and do extra things to make it entertaining. GSL doesn't have a "care about korea" requirement to play. in fact, it's almost appalling how little korean even people like artosis know considering how long they've been there. does GSL care that the foreign players there don't speak a lick of korean and thus need translators? no. does jinro get special treatment because he named himself after a soju brand? no. it's just another stupid stereotype (koreans have no souls, they are APM and $ machines) when people are really grasping at straws because they don't want to play with the big boys. yeah its too bad, guess its gonna be just like bw even after all the big talk @ release. expected of course. | ||
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svi
405 Posts
if you have too many american players then the tournament will be a joke. everyone saw how terrible mlg is in terms of skill especially in ro64 rounds. there are maybe 10 americans that even know how to play; the rest are just painful to watch. i don't want to watch crappy play, just like how i don't want to watch 2 blind teams play against each other in basketball. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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kawaiiryuko
United States368 Posts
So, given the size of the US (as opposed to Korea, which if I understand it correctly, isn't all that big - to travel from Incheon to Seoul is basically my commute to work daily, I think), western pro-gamers just can't cluster like the Koreans do. | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
It's still nice to see that the majority of people who voted agree with me though. I don't care about what color their skin is, how well they can speak english, or how entertaining they are when not playing starcraft. I only care about how good they are at starcraft. It's a starcraft tournament, that is all that should matter. NASL certainly can cherry pick for the sake of what they think will be more entertaining, but the tournament will lose prestige and respectability because of it. It's hard to get too excited when your favorite player wins "the championship" when there are other, better players out there who were not allowed to participate. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
You make no sense at all. Those are quotes from those players; they're intrested in seeing foreign players against foreign players. What poke is trying to say is, is that it will be more intresting to the average spectator, to see a foreigner versus foreigner match than a korean versus foreigner, or korean versus korean match. If that's their opinion, then I'm down with it, but they're not retarded for thinking that. | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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underdawg
United States399 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:51 goiflin wrote: You make no sense at all. Those are quotes from those players; they're intrested in seeing foreign players against foreign players. What poke is trying to say is, is that it will be more intresting to the average spectator, to see a foreigner versus foreigner match than a korean versus foreigner, or korean versus korean match. If that's their opinion, then I'm down with it, but they're not retarded for thinking that. 1. tyler is talking about his teammates, his personal buddies. they are not pokebunny's friends. 2. i don't think competitors can take off their competitor hat and put on their spectator hat and talk without bias in these sorts of situations. it has nothing to do with how smart they are. 3. tyler doesn't count jinro as korean and thus i don't think he really thought about what he said. 4. i said poke is retarded, not tyler or strelok, get it straight. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:44 dkim wrote: pokebunny seems to somehow link no koreans in nasl to him taking down #1 prize lol. if you are a true competitor you would want to be competing with the best, that's all. stop putting words in his mouth. i disagree with almost all of his views but he has made it obvious that he has his stance because he prefers watching people he can relate to ( plays against in ladder) | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:51 Sqq wrote: Why would you exclude Koreans ? If any other country besides USA and Canada plays, then it should be fair to let the Koreans play also. Some people. Well, there's also the issue of having a korean playing against a european in the online qualifiers; there's going to be ALOT of lag. Alot. The more koreans you have, the larger the possibility of that happening is. It sucks, but that's how it's run, and a cap does have some merit when it comes to logistical headaches such as this. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:56 dtz wrote: stop putting words in his mouth. i disagree with almost all of his views but he has made it obvious that he has his stance because he prefers watching people he can relate to ( plays against in ladder) Ever heard of clandestine motivations? | ||
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imbs
United Kingdom320 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:51 goiflin wrote: You make no sense at all. Those are quotes from those players; they're intrested in seeing foreign players against foreign players. What poke is trying to say is, is that it will be more intresting to the average spectator, to see a foreigner versus foreigner match than a korean versus foreigner, or korean versus korean match. If that's their opinion, then I'm down with it, but they're not retarded for thinking that. look m8 ur missing the point. tyler strelok pokebunny all have good reason to be biased in this "debate". it doesn't matter whether or not tyler/strelok/pokebunny believe wat they said or not; its easy to say something that strengthens an argument for a decision that could benefit yourself. | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:51 Sqq wrote: Why would you exclude Koreans ? If any other country besides USA and Canada plays, then it should be fair to let the Koreans play also. Some people. Yeah and this is the slippery slope of the whole issue. You want it to be a north american tournament? Fine. Then just limit to that. But mostly american, some canadian, some european, but very few koreans? Then go one step further and actually discuss "Should we just limit it to Code A Koreans?" Now you are just using their nationality as an excuse to dumb down the skill level of the tournament. Might as well just make a rule that "anyone who can beat Idra cannot be invited". It's obvious that NASL are interested in dumbing down the skill for the sake of our english speaking entertaining players being the main stars. This is pretty pathetic honestly. | ||
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imbs
United Kingdom320 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:55 underdawg wrote: 4. i said poke is retarded, not tyler or strelok, get it straight. to be fair i'd probably argue with similar backward logic if the decision i was arguing for gave me a chance to play in such an awesome event. | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:49 nvs. wrote: I hope from the bottom of my heart I never see Pokebunny in NASL. He's thrown away all professional credibility by doing whatever he can to avoid increasing the level of competition in the league. -.- lol. someone like pokebunny is not even top 200 in the world if you take all those koreans and europeans... kidding me? | ||
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