Now this is more personal:
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How comes that this thread is simply about one of Husky's videos and when I created a thread for another video of Husky, my thread got closed but this one did not?
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
Now this is more personal: + Show Spoiler + How comes that this thread is simply about one of Husky's videos and when I created a thread for another video of Husky, my thread got closed but this one did not? | ||
TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On January 06 2011 05:29 ZlaSHeR wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2011 21:52 TotalBiscuit wrote: On January 01 2011 16:40 BritishBeef wrote: But in all fairness i lost a lot of respect for totalbiscuit after this incident because there is no real need to react in such a way. "opinions are like assholes.. everyone has one" that includes me, idra and you! so even this is a opinion.. i dont think there was a need to bash idra at all.. The way i see it total biscuit looks like he just flipped out on idra and then idra reacted as idra would... actually no he reacted as a lot of people who had been repeadtly disrespected and insulted for typing "hahahahahaha" So be it. Not really concerned about the respect of random people on the internet when it comes to defending a friend. You don't mock someone's genuine willingness to help the community and not expect some kind of backlash. Let's also be honest, the backlash from my end was mild at best. We know exactly what he meant when he laughed. I doubt most sane, rational people would be concerned with said respect either. That is after all, what friends are for. Ya don't abandon them or let someone slander their good name just because that person happens to be the Big Bad Wolf of SC2, huffing and puffing and trying to blow your supply depot home down ![]() Defending your friend is fine but saying you don't give a shit about someones respect for you or husky because they're a random person on the internet helps about as much as your defending your friend. Believe it or not, you too, are just a random person on the internet to everyone here on TL. Husky isn't a saint and neither are you. If you think that you're the king of trolling the internet then you'd realize that people stating their opinions on husky are just as, if not more relevant and helpful than you trying to defend husky from idra, who quite frankly, could be a dick at times, but has garnered respect from tens of thousands of more people than yourself or husky. But respect is useless on the internet, luckily the 300k subs that husky has are on the internet but at least anyone who's met Idra in person at the events he goes to realizes he's one hell of a guy, and has respect in person that you won't get from saying you're a better troll I'll get back to you when I figure out what the hell you just said @_@ You've got this bizarre, bi-polar thing going on where you flip between respect mattering on the internet and being useless on the internet, lord knows what you're actually trying to say. | ||
Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 06 2011 10:13 TotalBiscuit wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2011 05:29 ZlaSHeR wrote: On January 01 2011 21:52 TotalBiscuit wrote: On January 01 2011 16:40 BritishBeef wrote: But in all fairness i lost a lot of respect for totalbiscuit after this incident because there is no real need to react in such a way. "opinions are like assholes.. everyone has one" that includes me, idra and you! so even this is a opinion.. i dont think there was a need to bash idra at all.. The way i see it total biscuit looks like he just flipped out on idra and then idra reacted as idra would... actually no he reacted as a lot of people who had been repeadtly disrespected and insulted for typing "hahahahahaha" So be it. Not really concerned about the respect of random people on the internet when it comes to defending a friend. You don't mock someone's genuine willingness to help the community and not expect some kind of backlash. Let's also be honest, the backlash from my end was mild at best. We know exactly what he meant when he laughed. I doubt most sane, rational people would be concerned with said respect either. That is after all, what friends are for. Ya don't abandon them or let someone slander their good name just because that person happens to be the Big Bad Wolf of SC2, huffing and puffing and trying to blow your supply depot home down ![]() Defending your friend is fine but saying you don't give a shit about someones respect for you or husky because they're a random person on the internet helps about as much as your defending your friend. Believe it or not, you too, are just a random person on the internet to everyone here on TL. Husky isn't a saint and neither are you. If you think that you're the king of trolling the internet then you'd realize that people stating their opinions on husky are just as, if not more relevant and helpful than you trying to defend husky from idra, who quite frankly, could be a dick at times, but has garnered respect from tens of thousands of more people than yourself or husky. But respect is useless on the internet, luckily the 300k subs that husky has are on the internet but at least anyone who's met Idra in person at the events he goes to realizes he's one hell of a guy, and has respect in person that you won't get from saying you're a better troll I'll get back to you when I figure out what the hell you just said @_@ You've got this bizarre, bi-polar thing going on where you flip between respect mattering on the internet and being useless on the internet, lord knows what you're actually trying to say. I belive he calls you... pretentious. Or something like that. And I'd agree. But it's not that you care about random people's opinions, right? | ||
TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On January 06 2011 10:31 Dandel Ion wrote: I belive he calls you... pretentious. Or something like that. And I'd agree. But it's not that you care about random people's opinions, right? Not especially no. | ||
Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
You'd think that people would get over it. Others like someone you don't like, that's life. It's a lesson which has been pounded into me through a lifetime of disappointments, and people would do well to learn it. And yeah, I didn't get Zlasher's post either. Too many sentences imo, it would have been clearer in one. | ||
Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
If you're going to disregard the public opinion just because they're a random person, you have to realize people will disregard your support of Husky. Your lack of respect to someone with an opinion that opposes yours just leads to a lack of respect for you. Just becuase you have some subscribers on youtube doesn't mean you have more merit than Idra or anyone else. TL's community is one of the most open and respectful communities around so why take the opinion of a HoN, LoL, XBL, community and drag that into TL and disregard what everyone says before giving them a chance. Elitism and shit talking seems to be for other communities but no need to wipe the shit covered soles of your shoes on TL's carpet. | ||
TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On January 06 2011 10:40 ZlaSHeR wrote: the tl;dr version If you're going to disregard the public opinion just because they're a random person, you have to realize people will disregard your support of Husky. Your lack of respect to someone with an opinion that opposes yours just leads to a lack of respect for you. Just becuase you have some subscribers on youtube doesn't mean you have more merit than Idra or anyone else. And that works both ways. Just because IdrA is a pro-gamer, does not give him the requisite knowledge, or right, to go after someone without provocation. I do not care if anyone respects that or not, it's about standing on principle and not hiding in a corner when somebody who should know better, takes a dump on one of your personal friends. Either your point applies to both of us, or it doesn't apply at all. Can't have your cake and eat it, regardless of being an 'EG fanboi', whatever that means. TL's community is one of the most open and respectful communities around so why take the opinion of a HoN, LoL, XBL, community and drag that into TL and disregard what everyone says before giving them a chance. Elitism and shit talking seems to be for other communities but no need to wipe the shit covered soles of your shoes on TL's carpet. Except this is exactly what IdrA did and you're conveniently ignoring that out of personal bias. It's fairly hypocritical. I'd also like to point out that this thread is full of examples of elitism and shit-talking and TL is sadly not immune to it. | ||
men1kmati
United States165 Posts
Joined TL.net Friday, 19th of February 2010 i lol'd btw the video was bad. couldnt finish the whole thing. User was warned for this post | ||
TheAbysCries
Australia41 Posts
Anyway people taking offence at this or insulting it are just stupid. | ||
Artisan
United States336 Posts
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
On December 31 2010 19:30 ELA wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2010 17:38 HuskyTheHusky wrote: On December 31 2010 16:43 IdrA wrote: On December 31 2010 13:36 TotalBiscuit wrote: On December 31 2010 13:11 IdrA wrote: On December 31 2010 11:44 TotalBiscuit wrote: On December 31 2010 11:03 Rialz wrote: Well i enjoyed the video, but i think that Husky is diverting too much from the actual SC2 scene and pretty much doing anything for fame, not for the love of the community. Ya kidding? He does this because he loves the SC2 community. He could have spent the time and the budget just plowing out commentaries to pay the bills, not making charity songs. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha aaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha Oh do me a favour and lose the troll act, some of us have been doing it way longer than you and we're much better at it. Do you know the guy? No. When was the last time you spoke to him? Are you employed by the same company? Are you aware of what he does on a daily basis? Do you know how much he earns? Do you know how much money he plows into making fun content for no personal gain? None of the above, of course. So sit the fuck down and stick to what you're good at. Yeah, so I'm defending my friend. Deal with it.. I won't have you slandering his good name in public without recourse. edit : Noted, removed. sit the fuck down? lol shut up retard. he doesnt give a rats ass about the community beyond the fact that theyre making him rich despite the fact that he has absolutely 0 noticeable talents. if the tlaf guy hadnt been desperate to throw money at the community, and husky hadnt gotten in between those 2, he would be a nothing right now. good for him for 'making it' but dont act like anything about the whole thing is for the good of the community. I'm sorry you have started hating me ever since you lost the HDH1 to WhiteRa. Despite what you think, I did not rig the maps to be in his favor and I did not in any way rig anything to favor one player over the other. I understand why you raged at me in private after you lost and I am ok with you posting extremely hateful things towards me ever since that event. It's cool if you dont like me. It's cool if the raging nerd persona is your way of standing out. It's extremely awesome that you are so dedicated to StarCraft 2 and are a representation of the foreign community in StarCraft 2. But please, for the sake of being an honest person, stop posting in every thread about me saying I do not care about the SC2 community. It simply is not true ![]() Thanks! Idra: 0 - Husky: 1 Keep up the good work Husky, you're awesome ![]() + Show Spoiler + On January 05 2011 03:32 UberThing wrote: There are way too many unsubstantiated claims about Husky being said in this thread. He isnt the ideal caster (voice, nerdgasm, analysis, nerd looking). BUT Husky does care for the SC community: 1. Was casting lots of broodwar. He had tons of vids but he had to take it all down to get his partnership because of copyright infringement 2. Put out load of SC2 commentaries in HD quality when they were scarce (beta) 3. Organised and ran one of the first big SC2 tournaments HDH. He had no real experience prior to this, but he did it and did it pretty well and kept a lot of people entertained. This must of taken a lot of time and energy 4. Willing to go cast at tournaments 5. Makes some professionally produced SC2 music videos (Has anyone else even done one? They may not be to everyones taste, but comeon). 4 million views?? It would be fair to claim Husky has done fuck loads for Starcraft. Furthermore, it is clear that Husky has brought a large number of people out from the shadows and into the SC community and TL. He is probably got more people into watching SC vids as entertainment (not just improving your play) than anyone else. Not everyone has to be good as SC2. Hell, I was in diamond (I had to quit cause of medschool) but I still watch his videos regularly even though I dont play the game. Before criticising his analysis, think that there are way more people out there who watch the game just for fun and entertainment, not to really become a pro. (If you are trying to be a pro why on earth are you complaining about him. Its quite obvious there are other people who can help you improve your play) Husky does make money from his casting. So what?? If he can make a full time decent paid job form SC2 then whats the problem? Isnt this what Day9, Tasteless, Artosis, Hotbid are doing amongst others. Im pretty sure a lot of people hate his guts for this (ahem Idra) and his apparent lack of talent. There are loads of people who have put in countless more hours into SC with less to show for it. SO isnt this just sour grapes? Other criticisms such as splitting up videos. This used to be done because of a) HD videos (1080p) take ages to upload and frequently fail (40% of the time) b)he used to have a normal internet connection. So this is quite nderstandable. Guess what tho? Now he has a decent internet connection the games are really long and not split into parts, For putting adverts on youtube before the video. HAve you even watched Day[9]s blip tv? Most youtube channels? The adverts there are the same if not worse. Casting talent. This is subjective. Dont like it, dont watch it. Wait 300,000+ people like his stuff. It would be fair to claim he is the "one of the biggest if not the biggest SC2 caster". Its not like a TV program (GOM GSL) where you are forced to watch the guys. Also its just pure SC2. I dont have to look at his face at various times too. Being homosexual. Dont be so bigoted. U got pussy in the last video Dissing Idra. Idra just ripped into Husky. The guy needs to grow up and learn some social skills (how to better express his opinions for one). If I have missed anything out (good or bad), quote this post and say why. PS. I found it better to listen to the SCV song. The lyrics are wicked Idra gives the impression that he is bitter about the success of Husky. Sometimes you have to confront those who try and belittle you for no good reason. Well done TotalBiscuit Nice song btw.. Its a grower | ||
Petshop
Canada73 Posts
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ccHaZaRd
Canada1024 Posts
but he seems like a nice guy and hes doing this for charity, so props to him. | ||
UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
On January 07 2011 00:33 ccHaZaRd wrote: husky is a terrible caster/player and he doesn't know the game at all. but he seems like a nice guy and hes doing this for charity, so props to him. He may be a terrible player (mid diamond lol) but he definitely is not a terrible caster (loads of people 300,000 people disagree with you). Pro level sc knowledge is not a prequisite for entertaining people and being the most popular caster. He was casting broodwar before. Maybe choose your words better? Try and elaborate exactly why you personally find him terrible because there is no real value in the way you said it? | ||
Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On January 07 2011 02:45 UberThing wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2011 00:33 ccHaZaRd wrote: husky is a terrible caster/player and he doesn't know the game at all. but he seems like a nice guy and hes doing this for charity, so props to him. He may be a terrible player (mid diamond lol) but he definitely is not a terrible caster (loads of people 300,000 people disagree with you). Pro level sc knowledge is not a prequisite for entertaining people and being the most popular caster. He was casting broodwar before. Maybe choose your words better? Try and elaborate exactly why you personally find him terrible because there is no real value in the way you said it? He IS a terrible caster, but its not the point of this thread and you shouldnt encourage discussion about that. Anyway to stay on topic, I really dislike all those music videos, but well I really dislike ANY music video on youtube because its not my taste at all (the music too). | ||
Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
On January 06 2011 00:22 UberThing wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2011 03:32 UberThing wrote: There are way too many unsubstantiated claims about Husky being said in this thread. He isnt the ideal caster (voice, nerdgasm, analysis, nerd looking). BUT Husky does care for the SC community: 1. Was casting lots of broodwar. He had tons of vids but he had to take it all down to get his partnership because of copyright infringement 2. Put out load of SC2 commentaries in HD quality when they were scarce (beta) 3. Organised and ran one of the first big SC2 tournaments HDH. He had no real experience prior to this, but he did it and did it pretty well and kept a lot of people entertained. This must of taken a lot of time and energy 4. Willing to go cast at tournaments 5. Makes some professionally produced SC2 music videos (Has anyone else even done one? They may not be to everyones taste, but comeon). 4 million views?? It would be fair to claim Husky has done fuck loads for Starcraft. Furthermore, it is clear that Husky has brought a large number of people out from the shadows and into the SC community and TL. He is probably got more people into watching SC vids as entertainment (not just improving your play) than anyone else. Not everyone has to be good as SC2. Hell, I was in diamond (I had to quit cause of medschool) but I still watch his videos regularly even though I dont play the game. Before criticising his analysis, think that there are way more people out there who watch the game just for fun and entertainment, not to really become a pro. (If you are trying to be a pro why on earth are you complaining about him. Its quite obvious there are other people who can help you improve your play) Husky does make money from his casting. So what?? If he can make a full time decent paid job form SC2 then whats the problem? Isnt this what Day9, Tasteless, Artosis, Hotbid are doing amongst others. Im pretty sure a lot of people hate his guts for this (ahem Idra) and his apparent lack of talent. There are loads of people who have put in countless more hours into SC with less to show for it. SO isnt this just sour grapes? Other criticisms such as splitting up videos. This used to be done because of a) HD videos (1080p) take ages to upload and frequently fail (40% of the time) b)he used to have a normal internet connection. So this is quite nderstandable. Guess what tho? Now he has a decent internet connection the games are really long and not split into parts, For putting adverts on youtube before the video. HAve you even watched Day[9]s blip tv? Most youtube channels? The adverts there are the same if not worse. Casting talent. This is subjective. Dont like it, dont watch it. Wait 300,000+ people like his stuff. It would be fair to claim he is the "one of the biggest if not the biggest SC2 caster". Its not like a TV program (GOM GSL) where you are forced to watch the guys. Also its just pure SC2. I dont have to look at his face at various times too. Being homosexual. Dont be so bigoted. U got pussy in the last video Dissing Idra. Idra just ripped into Husky. The guy needs to grow up and learn some social skills (how to better express his opinions for one). If I have missed anything out (good or bad), quote this post and say why. PS. I found it better to listen to the SCV song. The lyrics are wicked If anyone wants to criticise Husky, please read above before doing so. I agree totally with you. People are shitting on Husky for bad reasons. People are bringing talent, skill, money into something where its not needed. +1 TB fighting! :D | ||
EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
On January 07 2011 02:51 Roggay wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2011 02:45 UberThing wrote: On January 07 2011 00:33 ccHaZaRd wrote: husky is a terrible caster/player and he doesn't know the game at all. but he seems like a nice guy and hes doing this for charity, so props to him. He may be a terrible player (mid diamond lol) but he definitely is not a terrible caster (loads of people 300,000 people disagree with you). Pro level sc knowledge is not a prequisite for entertaining people and being the most popular caster. He was casting broodwar before. Maybe choose your words better? Try and elaborate exactly why you personally find him terrible because there is no real value in the way you said it? He IS a terrible caster, but its not the point of this thread and you shouldnt encourage discussion about that. Anyway to stay on topic, I really dislike all those music videos, but well I really dislike ANY music video on youtube because its not my taste at all (the music too). I think a lot of TL hardasses seem to think its cool /accepted to not like Husky. Just an observation I've made. You do know their are multiple types of casters? And different types of people that watch SC2 right? Not just hardcore sc2 players who are looking for the top notch play by play analysis... The arrogance from some of the people in this thread is astounding.... Your comment on his music video however is completely merited. You just like starcraft cut and dry. In my opinion that seems very boring... The Tasteless music video, so many banelings! gotta lovem... I Love having my favorite game/casters put into parodies/music videos. But I guess not everyone finds humor in them : / | ||
HardWater
2 Posts
On January 05 2011 08:36 bkrow wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2011 03:28 Plaxy wrote: On January 04 2011 15:11 bkrow wrote: On January 04 2011 14:09 WTL wrote: Everyone in this thread is missing the point. Husky doesn't care about SC2 / Casting / Etc. He cares about one thing. Money. He makes these garbage parody videos to take advantage of the SC2 fan base's viewer-ship in order to get paid by youtube. He cuts up his videos in 10 minute increments to maximize views (in order to get more money). The SC2 community really doesn't need him, his casts are abysmal as well as his strats, Day9 or Djwheat and others are way better. He is done more for esports than you could ever dream of accomplishing.. lol what has husky done for esports honostly. he does one commentary of a LADDER game every few days and then a song about scvs another day. you cant say husky does 'anything' for esports. his youtube channel is not even a esport channel. comparing his 15-20minute casts to day9s hour long DAILIES and saying its a huge factor in developing esports is ignorant. There are many bigger and more important players in the esport scene than these lone youtubers. Wow.. the most close minded post. So everyone is a die hard esports fan? Everyone loves sitting down for an hour with day9 and listening to analytical play? So nobody wants a light hearted humorous approach to casting? two words - Funday Monday. Day9 is very whimsical and analytical saying that hes just analytical is wrong. He invented this awesome thing for sc2 fans to do on mondays thats totally for fun. Also you dont have to watch the whole hour which are light hearted and humorous as much so as funday monday. | ||
KaiJa
Australia92 Posts
Speaking about doing stuff for SC2... whatever happened to SCA? Since after reading all these posts defending Husky it becomes a little redundant when you remember HD&Husky developed a pretty darn sizable community and let it die overnight without telling anyone. | ||
Sein
United States1811 Posts
On January 07 2011 03:44 HardWater wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2011 08:36 bkrow wrote: On January 05 2011 03:28 Plaxy wrote: On January 04 2011 15:11 bkrow wrote: On January 04 2011 14:09 WTL wrote: Everyone in this thread is missing the point. Husky doesn't care about SC2 / Casting / Etc. He cares about one thing. Money. He makes these garbage parody videos to take advantage of the SC2 fan base's viewer-ship in order to get paid by youtube. He cuts up his videos in 10 minute increments to maximize views (in order to get more money). The SC2 community really doesn't need him, his casts are abysmal as well as his strats, Day9 or Djwheat and others are way better. He is done more for esports than you could ever dream of accomplishing.. lol what has husky done for esports honostly. he does one commentary of a LADDER game every few days and then a song about scvs another day. you cant say husky does 'anything' for esports. his youtube channel is not even a esport channel. comparing his 15-20minute casts to day9s hour long DAILIES and saying its a huge factor in developing esports is ignorant. There are many bigger and more important players in the esport scene than these lone youtubers. Wow.. the most close minded post. So everyone is a die hard esports fan? Everyone loves sitting down for an hour with day9 and listening to analytical play? So nobody wants a light hearted humorous approach to casting? two words - Funday Monday. Day9 is very whimsical and analytical saying that hes just analytical is wrong. He invented this awesome thing for sc2 fans to do on mondays thats totally for fun. Also you dont have to watch the whole hour which are light hearted and humorous as much so as funday monday. I do think that Day9 is the best English-speaking analyst of the game and he also does a very good job casting various tournaments. However, if I feel like just sitting back to relax and enjoy some games, I would go to Husky's channel because while Funday Mondays are humorous, Day9 still stops the games and pans the camera on himself for half an hour, at least in the dailies I have watched, and personally I'm not a fan of that. | ||
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