piskooooo United States. December 10 2010 06:21. Posts 137 PM Profile Quote #
The game is still new, there's going to be hundreds of patches. I know it's hard but giving up won't help P advance. Imagine what would have happened if Boxer switched from T to P in SC1.

>Boxer switched from P to T

shaNk

Canada124 Posts

December 09 2010 21:58 GMT

#122

lol perfect, ur never gonna change (noone cares about that huge wall btw)

vileChAnCe

Canada525 Posts

December 09 2010 22:04 GMT

#123

Alright check it, this fool comes into vent every god damn day and whines about everything. This isn't a problem with the protoss race this is his attitude in general. Perfect your credibility goes down the more you bring it up you may get some sympathetic brotoss patting you on the back the rest of us TL;DR the shit out of your OP.

WniO

United States2706 Posts

December 09 2010 22:06 GMT

#124

Some of the best players in the future probably havent even touched starcraft so i think your fine

Raine

Canada210 Posts

December 09 2010 22:11 GMT

#125

Stick with Brotoss, no questions asked. The game is young and there is going to be many many changes. Best part about playing protoss, you don't have to play ZvT!

Zedders

Canada450 Posts

December 09 2010 22:12 GMT

#126

I find the greatest thing about Sc2 is that there are 3 distinct races, each with their advantages and disadvantages, yet you cannot easily say that one race is more powerful than the next.

That's the greatness of starcraft it really doesnt matter what race you choose, it's completely preferential

Kayzer.

Germany79 Posts

December 09 2010 22:18 GMT

#127

On December 09 2010 18:55 NearPerfection wrote:
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A: Switch to Terran where higher skill level is greatly rewarded and the harassment capabilities keep terran fun and interesting. But the downside is learning TvZ and playing TvT for the above reasons stated before.[...]

That shouldn't bee to much of problem... at the moment it's all about marines and some medivacs/tanks anyways... that should be pretty much what you want a kind of micro-intensive matchup. For example:
2 rax marine early pressure, splitting marines vs banelings etc.

The only things you really had to learn there are the timings e.g. "when does he usually take his 3rd base so I can deny it" and the likes.

I switched races a lot since beta and I'm glad I did. I could get some insight on all of the races and their differences as I didn't play too much sc:bw.
I'm also a former WC3 player and my first "serious" race was protoss, too for the same reasons you mentioned above.

I switched to Zerg now a while ago and that's great as I felt that this race suits my playstyle the best. Of course it's different from the WC3 races but it's a different game after all and I think you should play what you WANT to play not what you feel you are the most successful with. At least that's very important for me as I would lose my motivation to play pretty soon if I didn't like the race I'm playing.

btw: You listed only mutas and nydus networks as harassment methods but you shouldn't underestimate 20 lings running to your oppontents 3rd/4th base which is virtually defenseless on bigger maps (unless hes T and has a PF there ~_~).

You can also do some neat micro tricks with roach timing pushes with burrow (remember WC3 fiend micro? :D) vs Zerg and Protoss.

That's a pretty weird post as I just wrote whatever came to my mind but the message is: play whatever race you want to play! You shouldn't be afraid to drop a few hundred points on the ladder (it will reset eventually anyways). I finally found the race that I was looking for all the time and it feels great. I never had so much motviation to play the game.

Allscorpion

United Kingdom319 Posts

December 09 2010 22:21 GMT

#128

I haven't read your post, imo too much information and if TL wants you to write that much, then its just boring. But anyways that isnt the point, the point is if you want to switch races, no matter what point in time do it and dont regret it because if you want to change races then you clealy don't like the one you are playing now. Although if you are changing races because of "balance" issues then dont because you are living the lie and you should always stick with your race! also there is no such thing as a "imba race that can beat all races" it is a matter of skill and timings that a clever player has figured out. SIMPLES! ^^

imperator-xy

Germany1377 Posts

December 09 2010 22:21 GMT

#129

i dont agree with your statements about protoss at all but its never too late to switch. if its no fun for you to play protoss then dont hesitate to switch, you may loose your next 50 games but no one on this world cares about your stats so it shouldnt matter.

Aberu

United States968 Posts

December 09 2010 22:27 GMT

#130

Protoss can be micro intensive but it's more in the mid and late game. Zealots and Stalkers aren't super micro units, but they are with charge and blink. Then you need good micro to manuever expensive late game units, put them into proper positioning just before a fight and during a fight. The micro isn't just action-micro it's also positioning the army during a fight, which protoss benefits a lot from. Play what you are most comfortable with personally.

piskooooo

United States351 Posts

December 09 2010 22:29 GMT

#131

On December 10 2010 06:48 SlyinZ wrote:

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>Boxer switched from P to T

shhh lol

dangots0ul

United States919 Posts

December 09 2010 22:31 GMT

#132

Oh how much do i agree with your logic. A+. Ultimately unless u trying to be the best i'd recommend playing whats fun for you which is looking like T. However, your in a dangerous gap where your playing to get better and not what you enjoy (i feel). Maybe there is a bigger picture here

goswser

United States3548 Posts

December 09 2010 22:35 GMT

#133

Infestors need fungal growth to be able to affect air units, they're hardly used at all as it as, and since they're basically zerg's only spell caster, nerfing them so much as to basically remove their use from the game would be horrible for balance. Top players (in gsl at least) have yet to use infestors consistently or at all really, and zerg needs it to remain a viable unit. I do agree though that protoss needs to have harder micro.

On another topic, I previously was a top 200 terran, was at 75th or so in rankings, and I decided to switch to zerg because of my dislike of TvT. Its taken me quite awhile to get back up, but I think I'll be there again soon, I'm on the border right now.

Blacklizard

United States1194 Posts

December 09 2010 23:06 GMT

#134

This is the best thread in months. Interesting OP for me (I play T and P, think T has most potential), lots of opinions I share coming from a serious War3 player (I never played War3 but I get more fun out of SC/SC2 micro more than macro), lightly veiled insults from several posters (cracks me up... civil comments, but I smell War3 hate somewhere in there), lot's of good info throughout thread (I have read halfway thru), and balance talk. Balance talk is my favorite thing that everybody hates.

So yeah, melee isn't rewarded nearly as much with micro vs tons of ranged units. Warcraft 2 had it different, but we'll save that topic for another day.

My short answer. Play both T and P. T definitely is more fun for harass, stutter step micro, focus fire, etc. Protoss has occasional moments with blink and forcefields. Maybe phoenix sometimes... they are growing on me a little bit.

But I say play both. It keeps you "fair minded" and isn't as shallow as playing random where you just can't have enough time to get deep. Kudos for random players that try... it's not easy.

Out of time. But keep this topic alive... interesting and entertaining.

SlyinZ

France199 Posts

December 10 2010 00:01 GMT

#135

What worry me the most over the fact that if you play perfectly, is the randommines of the races, i goes to zerg after seeing some strong macro zergs who are quite regular, but now i dont know...it seems like its the most random race, you do well, if there is a cheese or some stuff like that, you're f**ked more than if you played another race ( that's what i feel).

That's why i profit of this topic to ask you tl : what's the most regular and less randommy race beetween terran and zerg?
(sorry for my poor english)

Kelethius

Canada187 Posts

December 10 2010 00:10 GMT

#136

Stalker's attack animation as well as its attack speed is far too long to benefit from stutter step type micro,

stopped reading after this, your doing it wrong

Piy

Scotland3152 Posts

December 10 2010 00:12 GMT

#137

Lol, I dropped from like 2.8k points to 2.2k when I started playing round with other races.

If you don't mind getting raped by all your practice partners for a week or so its no big problem. Skill transfers over pretty easily I'd say.

Don't play zerg though. That race is such a crap shoot early game right now lol, and you'll probably have the harder time since Terran is more similar to Protoss than zerg.

SDream

Brazil896 Posts

December 10 2010 00:39 GMT

#138

Play random for a month, then choose it from your experience, you don't have to cheese either, you could also play some zerg, then terran. Just so you feel it for yourself. We can't choose it for you, that pretty much would imply that there is a right answer, but there isn't. I play random right now, and I'd choose Protoss if I had to, but I don't, nor I want to become a pro, so I'll keep random.

Why are you asking if is it too late? Do you have a tournament soon or something? Why do you play? If you play for personal pleasure, it is never too late, the question doesn't make any sense (to me).

TheGiftedApe

United States1243 Posts

December 10 2010 00:55 GMT

#139

First expansion hasn't even come out yet, definitely not too late to switch. Although, protoss needs more top player

game is turning into TvZ