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Viruuus
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany451 Posts
December 10 2010 09:45 GMT
#161
After reading all of the OP, I have to say i can feel your pain. Im in a similar position, just that i started as Zerg, which is also my Broodwar race. Your problem is quite common in my opinion, its normal to feel at some point that the own race has disadvantages, or it is getting boring in so many ways. What I did was playing the other races quite a bunch, and then I started feeling the old love again, because i saw how hard it can actually be to play against my own race. You also get to see the weaknesses of your opponents races, which is really different from watching it in a replay, you get the feelings for the timings. MAybe you wanna try that too..
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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
December 10 2010 09:55 GMT
#162
Don't do it... Stay Protoss and just hope that future patches will make room for your abilities.

Look what switching races did to Morrow. I mean yeah, he's a pretty good Zerg and playing at pro level once again. But let's be honest here, there's a real possibility he could have a GSL under his belt by now had he stuck with Terran.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
tainted muffin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States158 Posts
December 10 2010 10:11 GMT
#163
play random for awhile
BuuGhost
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands340 Posts
December 10 2010 10:14 GMT
#164
It is never too late to switch races, Weather your bored or feel like trying somting out.

Best suggestion is probly to keep playing your main race but holding the other as a offrace. Just like random players have to do with 3 races.
"Kinda like this thing but there’s something you should know, I just came to say hello."
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
December 10 2010 10:22 GMT
#165
its never too late to switch races, play the race u enjoy the most!

cause if u enjoy playing a certain races u will play more, skill will follow.
(u might lose alot of games at first q
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kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
December 10 2010 10:42 GMT
#166
Nice subtle balance rant here, but your arguments would only matter if you could only make zealots vs marines. Maybe you should use sentry and force fields more, which basicly is the most rewarding micro unit in the entire game. Being able to create positional advantages and deny any kiting is gigantic.

You could have the best stutter step micro in the world, but the moment there are 3 force fields behind you, it makes absolutely zero difference.

On "topic" thought, there's absolutely nothing that should stop you from changing race, considering the game will probably be out for several years, and if you're already bored with your race there is no point to keep playing it. If it is for balance reasons, which I think it is, then you're just being stupid. You'll probably end up switching race again the moment you die to burrowed banelings, or instant die to storm+colossus or something.
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Nickgazord
Profile Joined June 2010
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 11:01:51
December 10 2010 11:01 GMT
#167
Hey if you wanna do it go for it.
"i dont think any amount of nerves will make someone scout with a Zealot" JP
Liquid_Adun
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada205 Posts
December 15 2010 14:57 GMT
#168
Its never to late to switch, but just remember patches will always sway the balance of the game. Who knows what units the new expansions will bring.
I have returned.
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 15:14:40
December 15 2010 15:11 GMT
#169
Amazing OP, even if I don't have an answer to his dilemma. Good food for thoughts though.

Although I'm far from the player he is, I've had more or less the same thoughts myself. Anyway, I hope Blizzard dare test the limits more on the testing server, even if the majority of them will never go through.
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
December 15 2010 15:19 GMT
#170
Stay the race you want to play, you think is cool and you enjoy. Even in the top 200 unless you still should be enjoying the game. If you like the gameplay mechanics of protoss then stick to it. Now if it's lag or something, remember as much as protoss relies on a well timed forcefield, terran still relies on well timed stim, siege, zerg with FG etc.

The Metagame itself is changing rapidly. With a much larger audience to cater to, the waves coming out of Korea are huge. I've been out of the game for a few weeks now (replaced hdd just haven't reinstalled) and I'm sure everyone and their mom is doing 2rax 3-5 rine +scv rush, next month they won't hell maybe next week they won't. For a while after MLG Dallas everyone went blink stalkers.

Some tactic may not be imbalanced this week, it may just be very strong hard to counter, but who knows what the next 2 weeks hold for it.
:P
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 15 2010 15:34 GMT
#171
On December 10 2010 18:55 Mooncat wrote:
Don't do it... Stay Protoss and just hope that future patches will make room for your abilities.

Look what switching races did to Morrow. I mean yeah, he's a pretty good Zerg and playing at pro level once again. But let's be honest here, there's a real possibility he could have a GSL under his belt by now had he stuck with Terran.

Wait what?

This game is 6 months old. If you want to switch races just do it. You probably will switch back if you like your old race better.
I had a good night of sleep.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3478 Posts
December 15 2010 15:40 GMT
#172
I don't think it's ever too late to switch races as long as you switch something that's better for your style the end result will always end up better, assuming you stay in the scene for a longer time.

What race did you play in Warcraft 3?
Cuz for me how warcraft races translate into starcraft is:
Orc - Protoss/Terran, Undead - Protoss/Zerg, Nelf - Zerg/Terran, Human - Terran.
With exceptions ofcourse.

But i mean figure out your own style, what race relates to you the most, because the races are so completely different and you can only go as far as your race allows you.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
December 15 2010 15:49 GMT
#173
Didn't read the entire thing and it's most likely already been said but... Pick ur FAVORITE race, it's a win/win. U'll have more fun and, in time, get better anyway since u'll be more motivated and play more.
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
December 15 2010 15:55 GMT
#174
Play the race that you like most, or you'll probably won't enjoy it.

If you don't have a favourite race, I would probably stick to protoss since you've invested so much time in it.
gurrpp
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States437 Posts
December 15 2010 15:55 GMT
#175
Interesting points about Warcraft 3 skills transferring to Starcraft 2. If there aren't as many options for harass and micro as Zerg, then why did a top Warcraft 3 player like Moon pick zerg? Would be interesting to hear his viewpoint on playstyles of each race.
hot fuh days
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
December 15 2010 16:13 GMT
#176
On December 10 2010 00:14 Proto_Protoss wrote:
Unless you plan on going pro keep playing the race you LIKE/LOVE to play.




I second that.

What are you wanting out of the game? If you want to be #1 on the ladder or want to go pro pick the race that you will win the most with.

If not and you want to enjoy the game, pick the race you would enjoy the most. Will you be better if you switch to terran or would you just enjoy the micro? Because the match-ups aren't unbalanced overall.

I'm ok as protoss, I've had a lot of practice with it,and I find zerg really hard. Like, really hard. But I enjoy it more so I'm sticking with it.
Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
December 15 2010 16:13 GMT
#177
On December 09 2010 18:55 NearPerfection wrote:
Using this when you compare a zealot to a marine something fishy happens in terms of a wc3 players perspective on balance. while the grunt was 3 food and the archer was 2 food archers had a 3:2 ratio advantage in numbers. when in sc2 marines have a 2:1 ratio over zealots. even more strange is that the cost of 2 marines is = to the cost of 1 zealot.

Basically what i'm trying to say is that if sub high level diamond players could download a program that would automatically stutter step and kite for them the win % of protoss would go down drastically.


I don't understand this comparison. Isn't this why toss has FF? By trapping marines/marauders with FF to disallow them to retreat, the zealot has a much bigger value. It's a lot more effective than ensnare in War3..
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
December 15 2010 16:16 GMT
#178
Never.
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
December 15 2010 16:56 GMT
#179
For me my only beef with being Protoss is the early game. This is at Gold level, however.

Rushes/early pushes are just so EASY and COMMON that it's difficult for Protoss even get to the mid-game. These players focus so much on their early play that once I get to the mid-game it's just a slow progression towards my opponent's gg. Before then it's nothing but a struggle. I rarely if ever win a game under 14 minutes, but maybe it's because I don't often counterattack those times that I stop the cheesy push (3RR, 7RR, 3Rax, 5Rax). I prefer to play a macro game and limit my enemy to 2-3 bases (map-permitting he might get a 3rd). I don't even see how this could be patched (increasing Stalker dps comes to mind), since Protoss is just not designed around the early game.
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HTODethklok
Profile Joined November 2010
United States221 Posts
December 21 2010 16:15 GMT
#180
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1597876

No one by the name of perfect on this list?
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