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Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
December 04 2010 12:55 GMT
#1741
Thanks for the screenshots! Hotkey interface looks awesome. Harvest count would be even nicer when we could select the units using it the way it was in warcraft III, but well, I barely care anway

Speaking of Warcraft III, Plunder Isle was a Ladder map in Warcraft III!

I'm curious what the Master league icon looks like. Did anyone promote that far with his PTR account yet?
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
December 04 2010 13:00 GMT
#1742
Fungal growth nerf is fucking ridicilous and utterly sensless ...
kuroshiro
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 13:02:38
December 04 2010 13:00 GMT
#1743
On December 04 2010 21:48 Everlong wrote:
I dont understeand how they talked about how problematic Terran late game is and than we get this? Do I miss something? Cheaper Observers will make it easier for Protoss to react and get to later stages of the game while faster Phoenix being so good against Tanks wont help either..


1. If protoss can scout better then m&m will be less effective.

2. If m&m is less effective, terran will not go all out to invest in a unit composition that might win them the early game but is trash in the late game.

3. If terran invests less in m&m they can invest in units that.. i dunno, might win them them a game that goes longer than 10 minutes?

4. ?

5. Profit.
I am you, and you are me.
Euriti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark72 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 13:08:16
December 04 2010 13:01 GMT
#1744
Fungal Growth nerf alongside a Phoenix buff is gonna make PvZ extremely obnoxious to play (ie. spend all game chasing phoenixes with slow hydras)

On December 04 2010 21:17 ghostnuke1234 wrote:
It amazes me how some Z players complain that they don't have to make Corruptors or Hydras to counter mass air. Not to mention they have a default unit in the Queen that is anti-air. They simply don't realize that they have been spoiled for all this time OP units, including the infestor. Blizzard simply realized how OP Z units are and made the correct nerf.


Easy for Terran to say when your bread and butter unit shoots air while we have to tech to tier 2 to get out a slow clunky unit that is honestly not good against anything but air and toss gateway units (And gets raped by tanks and collosus and every other splash in the game). Making corruptors which are bonused against massive, to counter Phoenixes/Vikings/Void Rays just seems completely unlogical.
EIRELEGEND
Profile Joined August 2010
Ireland26 Posts
December 04 2010 13:02 GMT
#1745
Link to screenshots please?
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
December 04 2010 13:06 GMT
#1746
instead of complaining, why dont u guys go mass games 1st. -_-
ovrpwrd
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 13:06:40
December 04 2010 13:06 GMT
#1747
On December 04 2010 21:13 DiZasteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 21:06 Nerchio wrote:
Larva change is horrible. It was pretty simple when you had all ur hatcheries on 1 hotkey and you could just use 1 hotkey to make ur army again. I can't imagine replenishing your army while you have to micro and macro, clicking 30 times the same button.


This. If you need to remax after a battle you will spend like 10-20 seconds bashing thesame button. Time in which you can't do anything else. And that just does not make sense to me. It does not cost the Terran and Protoss that much time because they will never be making 30-50 units at once.


Good, a late game Zerg nerf. Nice.
douglashv
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Venezuela73 Posts
December 04 2010 13:07 GMT
#1748
LOL, my first placement game was again mouzMorrow... Is it fair?

[image loading]
Just Be!
deejY
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany44 Posts
December 04 2010 13:08 GMT
#1749
can someone make a few screenshots of masterleague, chatchannels, etc for us unlucky europeans ? thx
Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 13:09:23
December 04 2010 13:09 GMT
#1750
@ douglashv
awesome! Is he a "master yet"? If so, can you post the icon?? It's not published yet anywhere.
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
December 04 2010 13:09 GMT
#1751
Fixed an issue where Larva could produce units by holding down hotkeys.

Time to spam the hotkey and click the icon like a maniac building twice as fast! But I´m reallly afraid that i´ll slowly kill my Z button .(
[A]dmiral Bulldog | Naniwa | [A]lliance
Allegria
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland83 Posts
December 04 2010 13:09 GMT
#1752
you should better ask yourself why he's protoss
Infernium
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden74 Posts
December 04 2010 13:11 GMT
#1753
-- Infestor

Fungal Growth no longer affects air units.


I'm a dead zerg
Majk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden146 Posts
December 04 2010 13:13 GMT
#1754
On December 04 2010 21:13 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 21:07 MasterFischer wrote:
Imagine if the RAVEN had something similar to fungal growth against mass muta/bsling builds in TvZ

Would that be fair?

No.

And fungal growth is too strong.


LOL did you even play the game? Raven has hunter seeker missile, what's exactly made vs. huge balls of units. Not to mention terran has thor who is made to fight huge balls of mutas.


Well the change is for the PvZ balance. If P even tries for air dominance Z could just lol Fungal Growth and win, Protoss only option against Mutas are to few. The sad part is that ZvZ gets even more one dimensional...
Darhaja
Profile Joined September 2010
United States108 Posts
December 04 2010 13:13 GMT
#1755
The fungal change is not the best way to nerf zerg in some aspect.. = /. First off, the change was made so that u shouldn't be able to fungal growth void rays because their speed buff got removed. At least that's what i've heard, and if they do not want fungal to work on voids only then there should be something implemented to make voids immune to the debuff. Now as for the nerf as a whole its horrible.

ZvZ is now gonna be a muta fest, you can no longer have cost effective trades in air battles w/o losing a lot of mutas and the protoss air army combined with storm is going to be unbeatable.. Vikings with +1 also beat mutas with +1 (fun fact) so imagine that being a big thing in the near future. Honestly if you cannot fungal growth air then make psi storm not be able to hit air as well.. THEN i would understand the fungal growth change. As for corruptors.. well they are slow, they can only attack air and they make your ground army weaker. In short zergs AA is bad and their air is bad so why buff air for everyone else and leave zerg fucked, i mean at least a hydra speed buff off creep would be reasonable but ZERO changes at all for zergs AA that's insane.

When it comes down to it i think blizzard just wanted to make protoss have more options.. which is fine i like that but now look at the options you just limited zerg to, as if we already had a lot of options to choose from to begin with ahahaahaha.. I just want scourge ffs I'm tired of queens and spore being our only AA for the first 8 mins while we pray to god we dont see a double void ray or banshee push at our front (look at the game haypro played in the RO64 and tell me that's fun as zerg to always prepare for the worst then end up dying because u cant scout a terran). Seriouly though zerg is lacking diversity and other races are going to soon dominate zerg because they already know whats coming and the zerg really cant change his strategy for the most part besides do huge tech switches like leenockfou did against clide (which was an amazing game omfg).

All in all fungal was the only thing IMO that made exchanges cost effective in the air like vikings or phoenix battles with mutas w/o fungal against air mutas are was less cost effective and are going to be extinct in PvZ and terrans are soon going to be abusing +1 vikings. So now the zerg has zero map control which he needs and its just not cool at all, i dont see a zerg winning a PvZ at high level play if this patch get implemented live. Now protoss will have map dominance and complete control over the zerg while he struggles to do something unpredictable which wont happen because u know whats going on all the time, which means the protoss can just make the perfect army and win.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
December 04 2010 13:14 GMT
#1756
So now we have:

Bronze - Silver - Gold - Platinum - Diamond - Master ?

Why break the combo and go for a non-material name? Make it
"Uranium league" or "Aluminium league", although that wouldnt really make sense, but still.

Or maybe add a "Coal league" or something silly like that to the bottom and change the current Diamond league to Platinum or whatever.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 04 2010 13:17 GMT
#1757
Just play a few games on PTR. Most players are like diamond in normal server :D. Chat channels are nice but not that "wow" experience I was expecting. Maybe it is not primetime on US soil so very little on PTR. I am gonna wait for a few hours before jumping back on it again.
The PTR version will reset every setting of your graphic as well as gameplay. So check your mouse scroll, keyboard scroll speed make sure you set it right before play.
GL HF
Terran
QofQfromtehQ
Profile Joined October 2010
29 Posts
December 04 2010 13:17 GMT
#1758
And Zergs starting to cry again :D hilarious.
Darhaja
Profile Joined September 2010
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 13:20:48
December 04 2010 13:17 GMT
#1759
I just don't like the changes at all zerg is not diverse and now zerg is going to be pinned to a wall the whole game and he wont really have any strong potential until the 15 min mark harassing a protoss is out of the window, this just sucks all around. Yeah zergs are crying because the race is gonna freaking suck compared to the other 2 its not cool zergs been through so much shit throughout sc2 from the start and this isnt helping at all
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 13:23:36
December 04 2010 13:19 GMT
#1760
Great patch!

I guess the fungal growth change will be gamechanging... Also in ZvZ, poor TLO versus mutas
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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