EPTHe also seems to think that when Blizzard does finally allow customizable hotkeys, it will include binding hotkeys like larva inject and backspace to the mouse. Is this true? Is this legal at LANS like GSL and MLG, or is this an unfair advantage?
Hotkeys binded to the mouse, allowed or not?
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Dr.Frost
United States389 Posts
He also seems to think that when Blizzard does finally allow customizable hotkeys, it will include binding hotkeys like larva inject and backspace to the mouse. Is this true? Is this legal at LANS like GSL and MLG, or is this an unfair advantage? | ||
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XXGeneration
United States625 Posts
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
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Natt
France253 Posts
I think this is legal, though this avantage maybe considered as unfair, as it is SO MUCH SIMPLE to inject like that (once you get through the horrible adaptation period). | ||
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Dr.Frost
United States389 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
I don't feel that this is fair because it is based on hardware. I also have a feeling that this isn't, but I can't completely confirm it. Being able to play the game at all is based on hardware. Most people don't have computers. Therefore, playing any computer game is unfair because it is based on hardware. (??????) I think at these tournament you can use ur own mouse but you can't install anything a pc. So this should mean you can not set macro with your mouse. You don't have to install anything on a PC in order to have mouse buttons rebound to a specific letter or number. (Macros also but they are explicitly illegal and bannable both at tournaments and battle.net games) As long as you're not using a a macro with your mouse button, and you haven't edited your MPQ, it is not considered cheating. And btw honestly it is only a perceived advantage. You still have the press the button, whether its with your mouse hand or keyboard hand. If u think pressing the larva inject hotkey takes significantly longer than pressing your mouse button then you have seriously slow keyboard hand. | ||
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noobcakes
United States526 Posts
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
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Dr.Frost
United States389 Posts
On November 18 2010 13:22 Reason.SC2 wrote: As long as you're not using a a macro with your mouse button, and you haven't edited your MPQ, it is not considered cheating. And btw honestly it is only a perceived advantage. You still have the press the button, whether its with your mouse hand or keyboard hand. If u think pressing the larva inject hotkey takes significantly longer than pressing your mouse button then you have seriously slow keyboard hand. Essentially your saying it is perfectly fine. Then I move onto my next question, why don't any pros use these hotkeys on their mouse if it is 'perfectly legal' at GSL. Why would IdrA not bind his hotkeys to the mouse. Whether you think so or not, it is definitely easier to larva inject with the mouse giving u the backspace command and larva inject. It is a huge huge difference pressing 1 mouse button and pressing Shift + back space + mouse button on the opposite side of the keyboard u usually press. Anyone who has played in GSL or MLG want to chime in? | ||
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dark88
United States35 Posts
And because remapping to ~ or F1 is stronger than remapping to the mouse, then I don't see how it wouldn't be allowed. It's not like you will win just because its on your mouse. | ||
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
On November 18 2010 13:27 Dr.Frost wrote: Essentially your saying it is perfectly fine. Then I move onto my next question, why don't any pros use these hotkeys on their mouse if it is 'perfectly legal' at GSL. Why would IdrA not bind his hotkeys to the mouse. Whether you think so or not, it is definitely easier to larva inject with the mouse giving u the backspace command and larva inject. It is a huge huge difference pressing 1 mouse button and pressing Shift + back space + mouse button on the opposite side of the keyboard u usually press. Anyone who has played in GSL or MLG want to chime in? Pros don't remap hotkeys because it does not provide any real advantage. In fact its harder to hit buttons with multiple hands in the correct sequence when you're typing fast. For example, try binding the letter "E" to your mouse button, then typing out a sentence. Did it help you type faster? Didnt think so. Remapping hotkeys is useful for low apm players only. I also think you've confused remapping a hotkey with setting up a macro. Why on earth would you be pressing shift-backspace to larva inject int he first place. Have you heard of hotkeys? I think I remember why I told myself to stop posting on this forum. sigh | ||
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
I myself use the two mouse side buttons for 0-9, and i don't think this gives me any particular advantage, in the end a player who has better hand techinque will have that for their advatange, not matter which hand they use. | ||
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Cade
Canada1420 Posts
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Dr.Frost
United States389 Posts
On November 18 2010 13:34 Reason.SC2 wrote: Pros don't remap hotkeys because it does not provide any real advantage. In fact its harder to hit buttons with multiple hands in the correct sequence when you're typing fast. For example, try binding the letter "E" to your mouse button, then typing out a sentence. Did it help you type faster? Didnt think so. Remapping hotkeys is useful for low apm players only. I also think you've confused remapping a hotkey with setting up a macro. Why on earth would you be pressing shift-backspace to larva inject int he first place. Have you heard of hotkeys? I think I remember why I told myself to stop posting on this forum. sigh He has backspace set on 1 of his mouse buttons, and V set on his other. So he can larva inject purely with his mouse. I wouldn't have it that way, my friend does. I don't use any of these bindings I was trying to find out if it was allowed. | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
On November 18 2010 13:22 Reason.SC2 wrote: Being able to play the game at all is based on hardware. Most people don't have computers. Therefore, playing any computer game is unfair because it is based on hardware. (??????) + Show Spoiler + I think at these tournament you can use ur own mouse but you can't install anything a pc. So this should mean you can not set macro with your mouse. You don't have to install anything on a PC in order to have mouse buttons rebound to a specific letter or number. (Macros also but they are explicitly illegal and bannable both at tournaments and battle.net games) As long as you're not using a a macro with your mouse button, and you haven't edited your MPQ, it is not considered cheating. And btw honestly it is only a perceived advantage. You still have the press the button, whether its with your mouse hand or keyboard hand. If u think pressing the larva inject hotkey takes significantly longer than pressing your mouse button then you have seriously slow keyboard hand. I hope you aren't serious. Anything above the normal key layout + 2 mouse buttons can be considered extra, something that not all people who own the game have access to. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
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Tsabo
Russian Federation266 Posts
But then I just allways tell myself that if I do it I will stop getting better and when I ever have to play a lan without my macros I will fail miserably. Same with mouse keys. If you ever plan on playing in a lan inviroment - dont do it. At least untill Blizzard allows to bind them ingame. | ||
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intergalactic
Canada428 Posts
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GoldenH
1115 Posts
 Must be some seriously cramped keyboards. | ||
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