EPTA look at the Raven's role in TvZ - Page 2
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baph
Poland30 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On October 21 2010 18:25 baph wrote: I do agree theyre underused. I think blizzards intention was to make them usable in TvZ as an opposing spellcaster to Infestor, but for now theyre not used because they are so damn slow hence being killed by muta in no time and their spells kinda do not compensate for this. But lets hope we're all wrong and one day some korean player introduces whole new approach and Raven will be usable again. If you want to use Ravens vs mutas you have to use the PDD. They are great vs mutas actually. | ||
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doubled
Sweden111 Posts
On a related note, does a HSM hitting air units do splash damage to ground units as well? Or only air targets, and vice versa. | ||
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Kazang
578 Posts
Think about that. | ||
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baph
Poland30 Posts
On October 21 2010 18:29 Boblion wrote: If you want to use Ravens vs mutas you have to use the PDD. They are great vs mutas actually. I tried it few times, it's good when youre attacking since zerg can't just go away out of PDD area, yet I still think Ravens are not cost effective enough or maybe they havent been discovered enough. | ||
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GrazerRinge
999 Posts
Especially PDD helps vs muta, stalkers and marauder(!), it can be deadly when it is used in correct time and place. | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
On October 21 2010 18:13 Snowfield wrote: Metagame has nothing to do with it. And yes, they are very good in TvT, mainly viking fights and marauder fights Yes it does. The fact that Ravens are becoming more popular in TvT alone shows this. Unit potential and compositions have yet to be discovered or popularized. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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GQz
Australia168 Posts
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
On October 21 2010 19:37 SovSov wrote: Yes it does. The fact that Ravens are becoming more popular in TvT alone shows this. Unit potential and compositions have yet to be discovered or popularized. Metagame: you are using it wrong | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
Also, are really 100/200 so incredibly expensive for a raven? An infestor is only 50 gas cheaper. | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
How is that not a result of metagame? Marauder/viking fights became popular, Ravens are used as a result to help it. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On October 21 2010 20:26 SovSov wrote: How is that not a result of metagame? Marauder/viking fights became popular, Ravens are used as a result to help it. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130447 | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
Ok, I misused the term (it's meaning is different in games like DotA/HoN, even if "incorrect"). How does that make anything of what I said any less valid? | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
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tacrats
476 Posts
On October 21 2010 18:35 doubled wrote: Increasing their speed to the same as a medivac (from 2.25 to 2.5) would be a nice change, makes them slightly more mobile and easier to keep with your army. On a related note, does a HSM hitting air units do splash damage to ground units as well? Or only air targets, and vice versa. why does every terran player want all of their units to have the same speed so you can just clump them 24/7? seriously. micro your army better plz like the other races ps - ravens are awesome, people just havent learned how to use them | ||
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NikonTC
United Kingdom418 Posts
On October 21 2010 20:31 tacrats wrote: why does every terran player want all of their units to have the same speed so you can just clump them 24/7? seriously. micro your army better plz like the other races ps - ravens are awesome, people just havent learned how to use them because terran has the slowest and least mobile force out of the three races. flanking and getting advantagous positioning is already a major pain in the ass. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On October 21 2010 20:30 SovSov wrote: Ok, I misused the term (it's meaning is different in games like DotA/HoN, even if "incorrect"). How does that make anything of what I said any less valid? I have said that ravens are bad ? | ||
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Zalfor
United States1035 Posts
give the raven some time | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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