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DorN
Germany90 Posts
Have fun with the Ban Morrow. | ||
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Kalkom
Germany15 Posts
in return you get content to show to your viewers. So if ESL organizes a tournament they want to show it to their viewers and if MorroW refuses to let them do so, the ban is reasonable. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:07 GenoZStriker wrote: What's more dickish? Obs refusing to not leave the game when they are lagging or MorroW refusing the laggers to join in and go with a small numbers of obs (including the official streamer ESL) That's a good deal of utter bullshit you just pulled out from your ass. User was warned for this post | ||
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
3/4 streams is fine. I remember watching Morrow vs Dimaga. Morrow say to them to leave and ofc nobody leaves. In first game Morrow blame lag to for losing a few reapers and in 3 game probably a more serious problem 1 caster lag the game when Dimaga was doing a crucial attack. He fail and loss the game. So ESL should have 3/4 officials streamers per game. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
In this case, having multiple spectators is dumb, really dumb. It's the reason I don't allow anyone else to spectate SHOUTcraft matches, because it's a disservice to the players. Bnet blows chunks, is that the charming American phrase? Yes I believe so and multiple in-game spectators can really screw things up. However, players have to realise that ESPORTS is bigger than them, much bigger. In order for it to thrive it has to be watched, because if it's not watched, then sponsors don't care about it and won't inject money into it which ultimately means you, as a good player, don't get paid. Thousands of spectators > you. When you play competitively, when you play with money on the line, you accept the strings to which that money is attached, ie. the sponsors must be sufficient promotion to justify their investment. If you do not accept that, then please do not get involved in ESPORTS. In this case, MorroW had a point and honestly, loads of people spectating competitive games via BNet is dumb as shit and should not be happening at all. BNet can't handle it, which ultimately is Blizzards fault but we are stuck with what we've got for the time being and we have to adapt to that environment. That said, he also broke tournament rules and deserves to be punished under those rules. It seems to me that if all of these spectators were streamers, they should perhaps organise amongst themselves which games will be cast (unless it's 1 at a time, which I assume during qualifiers it probably isn't) and not dogpile the high-profile players games just because it'll get them extra views. This can and will be a problem in future and casters need to take at least some responsibility for that. As someone has mentioned earlier, ESL should perhaps vet and limit who gets to cast what, rather than simply allowing it to be a free for all for anyone with a Ustream channel. | ||
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AmaZing
Nepal299 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:04 genai wrote: If a player doesnt want obs in the freaking game... then dont join the tournament where you need to have (rules) said tournaments obs in the game... stfu and join 10 other tournaments! If the player complains of LAG stfu and tell those streamers to fuck off.. BM is BM either way. | ||
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piegasm
United States266 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:10 SoL[9] wrote: Ya i agreed with the rule that player need to let the streamers cast their game. But not like ESL do...They have 21526534645 observers in one game come on that is stupid is like my english... 3/4 streams is fine. I remember watching Morrow vs Dimaga. Morrow say to them to leave and ofc nobody leaves. In first game Morrow blame lag to for losing a few reapers and in 3 game probably a more serious problem 1 caster lag the game when Dimaga was doing a crucial attack. He fail and loss the game. So ESL should have 3/4 officials streamers per game. BNet needs the ability to set a lobby to invite only. It's absolutely absurd than anyone can join a game on a friend without knowing if they're welcome or not. Even if you enable the ability to join on a friend, the lobby host should get a pop-up that says "X wishes to join the lobby. Accept? Y/N". | ||
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knL
Germany400 Posts
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Kerotan89
United Kingdom51 Posts
If the tournament says they want casters in the game, they should get there own official fricking caster to do it, not get the whole game full with 10 other people all live streaming one game. One person observing, then have casters restream the game and do commentary without flooding the game and causing potential lag, slowdowns. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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Fadetowhite
Korea (South)302 Posts
it just laggs the game and breaks the players concentration | ||
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Mateo0
France112 Posts
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
TSL baby, TSL. \m/ Or, if you want to attempt live.. Start with a streamer... Keep the players in optimal conditions. If lag occurs, save replays, turn them into the tournament admins for delayed broadcast. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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Dekker
Germany169 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:14 Kerotan89 wrote: I really think this is stupid, and I think most of the casters out there forcing themselves into games are morons. As said before, its a rule. But it shows something Blizzard should realy consider changing: The "follow"-feature for all custom games was the most imprudent one ever. It would have been a better approach by Blizzard to develop something along the line of waaaghtv. Maybe for the second featurepatch? | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:19 TRAP[yoo] wrote: but all of you dont get it that there is exactly !1! offical stream. its not about freaking 10 obs slowing the game down but not letting the OFFICIAL stream in........ If the official stream results in lag, then this needs to be voiced to the admin. Then do as follows: Save replays, turn them into the caster, let the official cast do a slightly delayed broadcast. The difference is, what, 30 minutes? | ||
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
On September 06 2010 00:56 RifleCow wrote: Shouldn't of posted that picture man, you got him banned for 2 additional weeks because of it. This is wrong. You shouldn't have used the word "of" in place of "have." Also, this is another reminder to watch what you say on battle.net and online in general. Everything is logged and in this case streamed. That said, I agree with the ban. Tournaments aren't about playing the game. The whole point of a Tournament is to have spectators watch the game being played. The event is not for the players, it is for the spectators. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:10 youngminii wrote: That's a good deal of utter bullshit you just pulled out from your ass. He kept it at your level. | ||
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DorN
Germany90 Posts
On September 06 2010 01 Fadetowhite wrote: cause having 10 different streamers is needed right. it just laggs the game and breaks the players concentration There is just one official Streamer and that is Take. | ||
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