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RxN
United States255 Posts
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
On September 06 2010 11:55 TheDna wrote: He was told that the rules would be changed next week.. He still goes ahead and decides to be a diva about it and insta starts a final game. There was no reason for that behavior whatsoever. I think alot of ppl will change their opinion about morrow, he already came across quite arrogant in some of the early beta interviews and just confirmed my initial thoughts about him. He was told the rules would be changed after he was banned not before. He had reasons for his behavior. Damn good reasons. He wasn't being arrogant in his interview, he was being confident just like Idra, but it's very common to miss understand that when English is not your main language | ||
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Samus
Australia47 Posts
Idiots coming in here on their high horse saying that morrow should of known better, go away. There is a reason why things don't change, its because people like Morrow and Idra who make sure that their voices are heard and things are done about it. Want to know the perfect fix to this issues without restricting streams etc...... LAN OPTIONS. Blizzard have indeed failed at it. Pretty much you have seen that blizzard are now activision as they are trying to milk everything out of a decent game for the lowest price. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 06 2010 11:46 deL wrote: I disagree, without spectators and fans the tourney wouldn't even be running. However, I think if lag is a problem they should reduce it to just the 'official' streamers and others can find a different game. Also I think if there is lag even the official streamers should man up and make the call to cover a different game because no one is going to enjoy watching a laggy game anyway. you dont have to stream LIVE to stream. the integrity of the tournaments (lag and cheating off the streams as well as things like bigt telling players what their opponents did in past matches), and avoiding drama bullshit like this, is far more important than a 15-30 minute delay. if you dont want to be spoiled dont watch the chat and dont go to websites until you're finished watching. simple as that. just say that players must submit their replays immediately after the match, and then you broadcast whichever ones you want whenever you want, you can do replays of famous players immediately after their matches and itll be essentially the same as watching the tournament live, or you can pick and choose the best matches for a different kind of entertainment value. its actually better in every single way. | ||
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TheDna
Germany577 Posts
On September 06 2010 12:03 Samus wrote: ... There is a reason why things don't change, its because people like Morrow and Idra who make sure that their voices are heard and things are done about it. ... You don't seem to understand the problem at all why bother and post with your half baked knowledge ? He was actually told before that the rules WILL change for the next cup because of his and other players complains.. He still went ahead and broke the rules without a reason. On September 06 2010 11:59 GenoZStriker wrote: He was told the rules would be changed after he was banned not before. He had reasons for his behavior. Damn good reasons. He wasn't being arrogant in his interview, he was being confident just like Idra, but it's very common to miss understand that when English is not your main language He was told way before the game took place. It was on takes stream in the chat before said game. His ban was after the games.. Take was def on his side even telling him that the rules will change and that he will take care of it. Afterwards to thank him Take wasnt invited to the game and Morrow insta started without him. So its not even close information wise, i wonder where you guys get your informations from or if just imagine them. Also i m talking about the very early beta interviews. He said his intentions were to dominate and influence sc2 in the early stages like Savior did in BW or something like that. I even remember some threads here stating how arrogant he came across there  | ||
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abrasion
Australia722 Posts
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Voyager I
United States260 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On September 06 2010 11:55 TheDna wrote: Very bad move by Morrow. The ban for should be way longer so he would actually learn his lesson there. Big diva move that should be punished hard. 2 wins(2weeks = 2games) at eps is prolly like 100bucks, he just won a big tournament and wont care alot. He was told that the rules would be changed next week.. He still goes ahead and decides to be a diva about it and insta starts a final game. There was no reason for that behavior whatsoever. I think alot of ppl will change their opinion about morrow, he already came across quite arrogant in some of the early beta interviews and just confirmed my initial thoughts about him. If anything a lot of people probably changed their opinion of morrow for the better after this, what he did was just fine. 14 casters... i thought the OP was just being hyperbole to get his point across but when i found out it was actually true i nearly choked, 14 casters is fucking ridiculous. Oh and Diva? hahaha | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
I can't even think of 14 notable casters. I doubt any of those casters were even Day9,Tasteless, Artosis, Chill etc. In either case, the truly big name casters seem to cast through reps anyway while all the amateur casters are killing over live games. Maybe they should learn from example. Also the difference between huge leagues like IEM, GSL is that they have at least some professional backing, while most casters are just livestreaming/ustreaming all on their own. | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
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Siwa
91 Posts
Don't know how their current system works techically.. but Could they do a thing where data is kept in sync with only one observer + players. That observer would then "stream" necessary data to other observers and so on, not affecting the players at all. With some kind of smart p2p system you could have practically limitless spectators. But.. sc2+battle.net can't do that.. anyway, just a thought. | ||
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Nihilnovi
Sweden696 Posts
On September 06 2010 16:55 Siwa wrote: Not exactly the point of this thread, but I'm just wondering why observers lag a game at all. Don't know how their current system works techically.. but Could they do a thing where data is kept in sync with only one observer + players. That observer would then "stream" necessary data to other observers and so on, not affecting the players at all. With some kind of smart p2p system you could have practically limitless spectators. But.. sc2+battle.net can't do that.. anyway, just a thought. Well, it's clear blizzard has no intention to provide the quality of online experience that HoN has(not talking about the actual gameplay, but the network and server solution they've employed) where if someone lags, it doesn't affect other people in the game. At the very least, you'd think they would make it so that obs dont affect players, but no, that would be too, I don't know, 2.0?  | ||
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afirlortwo
United States161 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On September 06 2010 12:22 IdrA wrote: you dont have to stream LIVE to stream. the integrity of the tournaments (lag and cheating off the streams as well as things like bigt telling players what their opponents did in past matches), and avoiding drama bullshit like this, is far more important than a 15-30 minute delay. if you dont want to be spoiled dont watch the chat and dont go to websites until you're finished watching. simple as that. just say that players must submit their replays immediately after the match, and then you broadcast whichever ones you want whenever you want, you can do replays of famous players immediately after their matches and itll be essentially the same as watching the tournament live, or you can pick and choose the best matches for a different kind of entertainment value. its actually better in every single way. sports has to be live. imagine a delayed super bowl or soccer world cup, that would just be ridiculous. | ||
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xylos
Switzerland61 Posts
On September 06 2010 12:22 IdrA wrote: you dont have to stream LIVE to stream. the integrity of the tournaments (lag and cheating off the streams as well as things like bigt telling players what their opponents did in past matches), and avoiding drama bullshit like this, is far more important than a 15-30 minute delay. if you dont want to be spoiled dont watch the chat and dont go to websites until you're finished watching. simple as that. just say that players must submit their replays immediately after the match, and then you broadcast whichever ones you want whenever you want, you can do replays of famous players immediately after their matches and itll be essentially the same as watching the tournament live, or you can pick and choose the best matches for a different kind of entertainment value. its actually better in every single way. Well I guess that the most viewers want to watch it live, and the people watching are more important than the players. | ||
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Requiral
United States2 Posts
On September 07 2010 03:40 xylos wrote: Well I guess that the most viewers want to watch it live, and the people watching are more important than the players. The problem is if these rules continue, big time names will leave these tournaments and therefore no one would watch. Players in my opinion are more important. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On September 07 2010 03:54 Requiral wrote: The problem is if these rules continue, big time names will leave these tournaments and therefore no one would watch. Players in my opinion are more important. People will watch either way. If 200 of the top players all leave 200 new ones will roll in. Look to MMA and the UFC as further proof of this theory. | ||
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TheDna
Germany577 Posts
On September 06 2010 14:33 grobo wrote: If anything a lot of people probably changed their opinion of morrow for the better after this, what he did was just fine. 14 casters... i thought the OP was just being hyperbole to get his point across but when i found out it was actually true i nearly choked, 14 casters is fucking ridiculous. Oh and Diva? hahaha He didnt have to let 14 casters in lol. This thread is so full of crap its not even funny anymore... | ||
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