EPTMaybe ESL needs to learn from MLG a little bit. According to JP's story, when he wanted to cast the second game between Nony and Incontrol and Incontrol said no, they didn't cast it. Hint, if you're income depends on people coming to watch the top SC2 players play, maybe you should give them some respect.
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
Maybe ESL needs to learn from MLG a little bit. According to JP's story, when he wanted to cast the second game between Nony and Incontrol and Incontrol said no, they didn't cast it. Hint, if you're income depends on people coming to watch the top SC2 players play, maybe you should give them some respect. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:07 DorN wrote: No Stream => No Premium Viewers => No Money for the ESL => No Pricemoney => No Cup Have fun with the Ban Morrow. I'm sure he couldn't care less. It's not like he can't do anything else during those two weeks.... | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:14 Kerotan89 wrote: I really think this is stupid, and I think most of the casters out there forcing themselves into games are morons. If the tournament says they want casters in the game, they should get there own official fricking caster to do it, not get the whole game full with 10 other people all live streaming one game. One person observing, then have casters restream the game and do commentary without flooding the game and causing potential lag, slowdowns. Yeah, this tournament is just awful so far. Banning players because random Obs aren't allowed in the game. That's sure to add credibility to your tournament. Like someone else said : 1 Official caster (german?) 1 or 2 Back up casters for the rest of us No other obs How is that so hard to understand? | ||
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Ohdamn
Germany765 Posts
you MUST allow a caster/ESL-admin to observe the game and there's a fixed penalty for not following this rule it has absolutely NOTHING to do with "he doesn't want to show his strats rofl" there was quite a lot lag in those matches but he still must allow the esl guys to observe..all those randoms can of course be kicked he didn't let anyone into the match including Take (i was watching his stream there) which is even worse than don't letting big-t join.... User was warned for this post (posting entirely in bold) | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:23 OreoBoi wrote: Instead of banning people, I think the ESL needs to look at how it's running this tournement. Seriously, if two of the top players are having problems with streamers for whatever reason, maybe something needs to change. Maybe ESL needs to learn from MLG a little bit. According to JP's story, when he wanted to cast the second game between Nony and Incontrol and Incontrol said no, they didn't cast it. Hint, if you're income depends on people coming to watch the top SC2 players play, maybe you should give them some respect. And the counterpoint to that is, players aren't going to get paid if sponsors walk away because players get too big for their booties and say 'no, you may not cast me, I am too important'. It's give and take. As far as I'm concerned, if you're in a tournament with casters, you consent to be cast. That's how the money gets injected into ESPORTS and that's how you as a player will get some of that money. That doesn't excuse randoms + a billion streamers out of fuckin nowhere piling into a game mind you. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On September 06 2010 00:46 DonKey_ wrote: ....wow I'm sorry but this shit is retarded; to disallow a gamer from having a choice if he wants obs is retarded. If this was the semifinals match or even the quarter finals i could see mandatory obs being expected, but not in like ro64 and such. There are too many amateur commentators with <100 viewers who think they're important enough to join pros' games. That's why the lobby gets crowded and the game is too laggy for players. | ||
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:24 Kurr wrote: Yeah, this tournament is just awful so far. Banning players because random Obs aren't allowed in the game. That's sure to add credibility to your tournament. Like someone else said : 1 Official caster (german?) 1 or 2 Back up casters for the rest of us No other obs How is that so hard to understand? read the thread first :/ he didnt allow Take in the game ... Take = official Esl caster... Esl awful tournament ? its one of best imo | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:23 OreoBoi wrote: Instead of banning people, I think the ESL needs to look at how it's running this tournement. Seriously, if two of the top players are having problems with streamers for whatever reason, maybe something needs to change. Maybe ESL needs to learn from MLG a little bit. According to JP's story, when he wanted to cast the second game between Nony and Incontrol and Incontrol said no, they didn't cast it. Hint, if you're income depends on people coming to watch the top SC2 players play, maybe you should give them some respect. dude it was on lan and incontrol was upset because he lost the first game...thats totally different. its a weekly cup and you agree to certain rules if you want to participate. that means that you have to let the OFFICIAL streamer in. thats one guy and its not like he has the crappiest pc or connection ever and always ruins games. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
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underscore
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MaYuu
Sweden516 Posts
Give the players some respect. If they feel the obs are making them play worse. Leave on streamer in and toss out the rest. It's so retarded to see games with 10-12 obs and people think the players should stop complaining. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:26 smileyyy wrote: read the thread first :/ he didnt allow Take in the game ... Take = official Esl caster... Esl awful tournament ? its one of best imo I did read the thread and I saw that. Honestly I didn't even know until now that he was the official caster. Why? Because the tournament is all over the place! This is information that should be given from the get go. "Ok, this is the official casters and these are the back-up casters. Feel free to kick anyone else in your games." That one sentence should've been in the OP of the tournament thread. | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:29 underscore wrote: Morrow is just jealous that TaKe has his own Fanthread on TL and he doesn't. MorroW has many fan threads on TL, they are called "Terran/Reaper imba" | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:29 MaYuu wrote: There's a reason why you don't want many observers and it's pretty obvious. Give the players some respect. If they feel the obs are making them play worse. Leave on streamer in and toss out the rest. It's so retarded to see games with 10-12 obs and people think the players should stop complaining. read the thread pls. | ||
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gundream
United States229 Posts
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
Edit: These are the finals | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:33 gundream wrote: he didnt want him in the match to watch....big whoop,...doesnt merit a ban on another tournament Yeah because if I was an admin in a tournament and someone broke the rules I set I'd just ignore it and hope it'd go away ¬¬. | ||
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On September 06 2010 01:35 bmml wrote: Yeah because if I was an admin in a tournament and someone broke the rules I set I'd just ignore it and hope it'd go away ¬¬. There are other things you can do than ban people. | ||
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