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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 607

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Deference
Profile Joined December 2010
United States15 Posts
March 15 2011 16:52 GMT
#12121
What a super neat-o discussion.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:02:57
March 15 2011 16:59 GMT
#12122
Why do people always attempt to impose rules they set on themselves on others?

Happy Birthday Tyler !!!
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 15 2011 16:59 GMT
#12123
On March 16 2011 01:41 Dystisis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:53 Enervate wrote:
Are people seriously criticizing Day9 for pointing? The waiter was way more rude to Day9. There job isn't to give listens on etiquette, it's to serve food. If a waiter ever got angry at me (visibly) or talked to me like that, I would either walk out of there immediately or ask for their supervisor if I really wanted the food there. That isn't being a jerk. That's wanting a service that you're paying for.

Have you ever worked in a service industry? Or ever worked anywhere at all?

bottom line is that there are very rude ways for customers to demand service but it's never wrong to politely request service. considering what we all know about day9, and considering incontrol made a point to say that the whole time day9 is acting like the nicest and friendliest guy in the world, it's safe to say that day9 was not acting like some nightmare customer.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
March 15 2011 17:11 GMT
#12124
On March 16 2011 01:59 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 01:41 Dystisis wrote:
On March 15 2011 12:53 Enervate wrote:
Are people seriously criticizing Day9 for pointing? The waiter was way more rude to Day9. There job isn't to give listens on etiquette, it's to serve food. If a waiter ever got angry at me (visibly) or talked to me like that, I would either walk out of there immediately or ask for their supervisor if I really wanted the food there. That isn't being a jerk. That's wanting a service that you're paying for.

Have you ever worked in a service industry? Or ever worked anywhere at all?

bottom line is that there are very rude ways for customers to demand service but it's never wrong to politely request service. considering what we all know about day9, and considering incontrol made a point to say that the whole time day9 is acting like the nicest and friendliest guy in the world, it's safe to say that day9 was not acting like some nightmare customer.

Agreed, but the notion that a person who is paying for food has the right to act in disrespectful ways to people who happen to work there doesn't make sense. The people who work there has the 'right' to become aggravated if they are outright disrespected by a customer.

Of course as far as I understand this was just a misunderstanding, in many places waiters will keep a humorous tone and recognize when people (like Day9) is doing the same, though for some reason this waiter obviously didn't.
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:18:40
March 15 2011 17:15 GMT
#12125
The people who work there has the 'right' to become aggravated if they are outright disrespected by a customer.


As someone who has worked extensively in the food catering business that is simply NOT true. It's your job as a waiter / waitress to provide the most quality experience you can regardless of how the customer acts. No matter how big of an asshole they are , you put on a shit eating grin and you eat that shit right up, because that's your job. Some people (like the waiter in this story) are just bad at their job.

Don't get me wrong, food service is possibly the most frustrating experience an employee will ever come across, but at no point does that give you the right to lose your composure, its just unprofessional.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:23:17
March 15 2011 17:22 GMT
#12126
On March 16 2011 02:15 Lomak wrote:
Show nested quote +
The people who work there has the 'right' to become aggravated if they are outright disrespected by a customer.


As someone who has worked extensively in the food catering business that is simply NOT true. It's your job as a waiter / waitress to provide the most quality experience you can regardless of how the customer acts. No matter how big of an asshole they are , you put on a shit eating grin and you eat that shit right up, because that's your job. Some people (like the waiter in this story) are just bad at their job.

Don't get me wrong, food service is possibly the most frustrating experience an employee will ever come across, but at no point does that give you the right to lose your composure, its just unprofessional.

Agreed, I have worked part time at a diner for almost 2 years now, first day of work my boss says to me "Always treat the customer with the utmost respect with the only exception of them assaulting you physically or running out the diner not paying their bills.
You just have to swallow your pride and do your work.
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
March 15 2011 17:35 GMT
#12127
On March 16 2011 02:15 Lomak wrote:
Show nested quote +
The people who work there has the 'right' to become aggravated if they are outright disrespected by a customer.


As someone who has worked extensively in the food catering business that is simply NOT true. It's your job as a waiter / waitress to provide the most quality experience you can regardless of how the customer acts. No matter how big of an asshole they are , you put on a shit eating grin and you eat that shit right up, because that's your job. Some people (like the waiter in this story) are just bad at their job.

Don't get me wrong, food service is possibly the most frustrating experience an employee will ever come across, but at no point does that give you the right to lose your composure, its just unprofessional.

Yeah I work partly in the service industry. I guess you are right to an extent. However, there are certain behavior which is not tolerated, and these things do vary greatly from location to location/workplace to workplace. For example, while working somewhere you're supposed to treat customers really well and cater to them etc., but if there are people there who's not going to to buy anything and are indisputably disrupting the actual customers, you "ask them to leave".

I agree with you overall though, the waiter shouldn't have responded like that at all, especially considering how Day9 doesn't exactly ooze with harmful intentions. I still find the idea that people can treat others who work some place badly simply because they pay for the food to be stupid. But that is actually besides the topic, because Day9 obviously didn't treat the waiter badly, at least not intentionally...
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 15 2011 18:29 GMT
#12128
wow are the trolls seriously getting pissed off at Day for his story? You guys are really digging on this one. Do as Husky said in the podcast: GTFO.

Awesome podcast, so much fun to listen too! The crowd was awesome!! (even if was east coast)
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 19:00:40
March 15 2011 18:56 GMT
#12129
Why is there music playing in the background?
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Stiver
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada285 Posts
March 15 2011 18:59 GMT
#12130
Wow, of everything that was said, the big argument is that Day9 is a jerk for pointing?

HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? why does this thread even exist, so stupid people can argue about the most inane things said in the podcast? My god.
"The most difficult thing in the world is to know how to do a thing and to watch someone else do it wrong without comment."
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 19:04:28
March 15 2011 19:02 GMT
#12131
Oh wow, can't believe anyone is defending the waiter. I wouldn't have tipped him, that's for sure.

On March 16 2011 01:41 Dystisis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:53 Enervate wrote:
Are people seriously criticizing Day9 for pointing? The waiter was way more rude to Day9. There job isn't to give listens on etiquette, it's to serve food. If a waiter ever got angry at me (visibly) or talked to me like that, I would either walk out of there immediately or ask for their supervisor if I really wanted the food there. That isn't being a jerk. That's wanting a service that you're paying for.

Have you ever worked in a service industry? Or ever worked anywhere at all?

You clearly haven't, or your employer really didn't give two shits.

Would like to hear more Husky in the future, not a fan of his casts but damn he was definitely one of the better guests so far. I was going in not really sure what to expect but yeah, this was definitely enjoyable.
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
March 15 2011 19:07 GMT
#12132
Loved this SoTG cast. Husky was actually really good on there with them. I was really happy to see that for how much shit he gets. Only problem with it was it was too short =(

I really cant believe reading through here the conversation about the waiter. lol it's simple, the waiter shouldn't have been a dick. It's not like day9 was being an asshole towards, honestly if I were the waiter I would've been laughing my ass off watching that.

Take a hint from Tyler.....chill
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 15 2011 19:11 GMT
#12133
amazing Q&A panel, the last question(or more like the answer) gave me goosebumps

Day9 for pro player again, woop woop make it happen <3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 19:55:41
March 15 2011 19:11 GMT
#12134
The whole thing seems like a culture thing, the waiter's response is exactly what I'd expect from a New Englander (being one myself). For me the response isn't rude, even if Day[9] is super nice and didn't mean anything by it. I can see how people from other places would expect differently (and if anything rightfully so), but it's just not the way most New Englanders are.


Anyways more importantly the podcast was awesome and hilarious and makes me wish I had stayed around to get in as people filtered out, but oh well. I was really happy that Husky finally made it on, not that I'm a fan (if anything it was the opposite), but he really showed why he has a big following and why he's great for e-sports. I'm now looking forward to seeing more of him this year. I really hope people took notice of SC2 as its presence at Pax far outreached the amount of planning and attention given to it pre-event.

EDIT: Also incontrol you baffle me. You lost 0-2 vs Naniwa in an unwinnable situation due to monumental lag THEN GO READ THE COMMENTS ON THE STREAM. WTF?!?!

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NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
March 15 2011 19:14 GMT
#12135
On March 16 2011 00:30 Scraps wrote:
Here's a picture of the State of the Game from Pax East 2011!

On stage is : Day[9], Husky, JP, djWheat, incontrol, ThisIsJimmy, Pokebunny

Pax East 2011 State of the Game panel


heaps nice.. thx alot for the post!
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
March 15 2011 19:16 GMT
#12136
Thanks for posting a date/time for the next SotG.
I really like watching it live, but can never be bothered getting out of bed at 11am to see if a SotG might be happening.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
March 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#12137
this is just purely my personal opinion and I know day9 has appeal / fan base but god I can't stand him on state of the game /casting / in general. Not to say he is bad at all, just can't stand him in any way.

Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#12138
On March 16 2011 04:22 dacthehork wrote:
this is just purely my personal opinion and I know day9 has appeal / fan base but god I can't stand him on state of the game /casting / in general. Not to say he is bad at all, just can't stand him in any way.



Thanks for sharing. Anyone else?
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 15 2011 19:36 GMT
#12139
On March 16 2011 04:35 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 04:22 dacthehork wrote:
this is just purely my personal opinion and I know day9 has appeal / fan base but god I can't stand him on state of the game /casting / in general. Not to say he is bad at all, just can't stand him in any way.



Thanks for sharing. Anyone else?



I like Day as well but sometimes he is a bit too sugar coated for my likes. He's like listening to Mike & Mike in the morning. He has an opinion on absolutely nothing because he doesn't want to alienate anyone.
Wat
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
March 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#12140
This is a gnarly case of everyone focusing on the wrong part of the story. Sean shared a ****ing hilarious anecdote and everyone is literally crucifying him. He asked for service. My goodness.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
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