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On June 29 2011 10:55 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:52 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:49 holy_war wrote:On June 29 2011 10:48 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:45 Kich wrote:On June 29 2011 10:40 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:27 Kich wrote:
IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP GEOFF ON THE SHOW EG OFFERED SOTG MONEY --
SOTG did not take their offer -- ok, what? Maybe i havent been listening to the stream closely enough, can you explain? In an attempt to keep Geoff on SOTG, they (EG) worked with their sponsors to give SOTG their own offer, which would let Geoff stay on the show. SOTG did not take their offer. I'm not sure how much more clearly that can be explained. After that didn't work, they assumed (since they received no information from JP) that JP was taking the other offer. Only at that point did EG start to create ITG--they didn't want Geoff to lose money because they respect their players and try to do as much as they can for them. They made a fucking weekly show for him. They found out that the SOTG offer fell through way too late and at that point ITG was already roaring and ready to go. There was no turning back at that point. Im pretty sure there must be more to it than "sotg did not take their offer" , incontrol is the most valuable co host of the show, im pretty sure they wouldnt just "deny" an offer that was the only option to keep incontrol on the show. There's more to it , im pretty sure. And Tyler's response backed it up. Ok so what i take from tyler's response is: The only way incontrol would have been able to keep doing sotg is if sotg took eg's offer, which would mean something bad enough that JP didnt want to take the offer.
So basically scumbag eg wanted control over the show, something like that i would assume.Just speculating now, but why else wouldnt sotg take eg's offer? Nah, EG wanted JP to star in some homeporn videos in exchange, something like that I would assume. You know, I'm only speculating now, but why else wouldn't SotG take EG's offer??? ... just stop it with the rumour mongering, FUD and speculation. We're all better off for it.
Sure, i wont speculate but why do you think JP would rather stop doing sotg altogether than take eg's offer? that seems pretty weird to me.
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On June 29 2011 10:41 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:37 XKiller wrote:On June 29 2011 10:31 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 10:29 XKiller wrote:On June 29 2011 10:28 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 09:55 Jayrod wrote:
SOTG made you incontrol lol indeed sad to see incontrol sell out, but then what else is there to be expected from the guy who made gosuguide How is being too busy being a progamer for the game selling out? yeah because he didn't replace sotg with a new podcast or anything and of course SOTG made incontrol. Having a bunch of failed entrepreneurial ventures under his belt and no results until he allin'd everyone to top4 at MLG doesn't make him a success without SOTG. TSLRain anyone? GSL finalist and now he has to resort to joining a foreign team No it didn't make him he has been in the community for like the whole time BW was out and everyone knew him, and the allin is stupid, he does what needs to be done to win stop bitching about it. and leaveing for a different podcast is a good idea, If you have a job you do that takes up a few hours a week and don't get paid for it, and you get offered the same job for money with less time why not do it, as djwheat says you have to think about you and your family. Of course it made incontrol, he wouldn't have nearly as many fans as he does now if it weren't for state of the game lol. And the point is not that he allined to get results it's the fact that he wouldn't have any results if he didn't just coinflip his way through the tournament But arguing with fanbois is a bit of a lost cause  You obviously don't even understand the situation if you think it's because he has to think of his real life obligations. He literally hasn't gained any time by leaving SOTG except now he does a podcast endorsed by EG, that is the definition of selling out. What is worse is that he completely outright lied and said it was because of time constraints that he was leaving SOTG, and you're going to lap that shit up? You're a deluded fanboy if that's what you'll settle for
That post is so vile. If that guy you are replied to is a deluded fan boy, you have to be an iNcontroL/EG anti-fan.
SOTG grew in popularity mutually with iNcontroL growing in popularity. He helped make SOTG great, and SOTG growing helped him. iNcontroL made himself. A nice symbiotic relationship here.
Sure, for him the situation hasn't changed. He is still doing one show a week, just like he was before. The problem was that by the time everybody realized that the SOTG sponsorship deal fell through, ITG was a done deal - iNc was "stuck" with two shows a week - here's your time constraint. He was loyal to his team and dropped SOTG, saving x hours per week to dedicate to other things. Now that he dropped NASL, maybe we'll see him again doing SOTG as a pillar.
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On June 29 2011 10:48 tsuxiit wrote:
I liked SotG better before it was a corporate entity. I wish it could exist completely outside of that sphere and be done purely for the community, out of the limelight, like it was when it was created.
The sad thing is, it can.
And they can all make money with it.
You just get people and these big corporations out there trying to "play business" with an entrepreneurial machine and they come along and fuck it all up. JP's not a business guy. Neither is Tyler or inControl. (No offense guys.) I'd hesitate to say Alex is, either. (Probably more than the others, though.)
There is something far more valuable to inControl than Steelseries or any other EG Sponser.
It's talked about in perhaps the last 5 SoTG's and they're all too blind to see it. No one's even mentioned it on the forums.
This is a common story in business, where some entrepreneur makes a wonderfully profitable company and sells it out to some corporation who puts a moron from Nabiso in charge of it who manages to destroy the company in less than six months.
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On June 29 2011 10:52 smallerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:49 holy_war wrote:On June 29 2011 10:48 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:45 Kich wrote:On June 29 2011 10:40 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:27 Kich wrote:
IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP GEOFF ON THE SHOW EG OFFERED SOTG MONEY --
SOTG did not take their offer -- ok, what? Maybe i havent been listening to the stream closely enough, can you explain? In an attempt to keep Geoff on SOTG, they (EG) worked with their sponsors to give SOTG their own offer, which would let Geoff stay on the show. SOTG did not take their offer. I'm not sure how much more clearly that can be explained. After that didn't work, they assumed (since they received no information from JP) that JP was taking the other offer. Only at that point did EG start to create ITG--they didn't want Geoff to lose money because they respect their players and try to do as much as they can for them. They made a fucking weekly show for him. They found out that the SOTG offer fell through way too late and at that point ITG was already roaring and ready to go. There was no turning back at that point. Im pretty sure there must be more to it than "sotg did not take their offer" , incontrol is the most valuable co host of the show, im pretty sure they wouldnt just "deny" an offer that was the only option to keep incontrol on the show. There's more to it , im pretty sure. And Tyler's response backed it up. Ok so what i take from tyler's response is: The only way incontrol would have been able to keep doing sotg is if sotg took eg's offer, which would mean something bad enough that JP didnt want to take the offer. So basically scumbag eg wanted control over the show, something like that i would assume.Just speculating now, but why else wouldnt sotg take eg's offer?
pretty much yes, EG wanted to control the show and when they couldnt do this they realised they can just boycott it and create their own clone of SOTG with idra/incontrol as hosts
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On June 29 2011 10:57 Thrax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:41 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 10:37 XKiller wrote:On June 29 2011 10:31 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 10:29 XKiller wrote:On June 29 2011 10:28 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 09:55 Jayrod wrote:
SOTG made you incontrol lol indeed sad to see incontrol sell out, but then what else is there to be expected from the guy who made gosuguide How is being too busy being a progamer for the game selling out? yeah because he didn't replace sotg with a new podcast or anything and of course SOTG made incontrol. Having a bunch of failed entrepreneurial ventures under his belt and no results until he allin'd everyone to top4 at MLG doesn't make him a success without SOTG. TSLRain anyone? GSL finalist and now he has to resort to joining a foreign team No it didn't make him he has been in the community for like the whole time BW was out and everyone knew him, and the allin is stupid, he does what needs to be done to win stop bitching about it. and leaveing for a different podcast is a good idea, If you have a job you do that takes up a few hours a week and don't get paid for it, and you get offered the same job for money with less time why not do it, as djwheat says you have to think about you and your family. Of course it made incontrol, he wouldn't have nearly as many fans as he does now if it weren't for state of the game lol. And the point is not that he allined to get results it's the fact that he wouldn't have any results if he didn't just coinflip his way through the tournament But arguing with fanbois is a bit of a lost cause You obviously don't even understand the situation if you think it's because he has to think of his real life obligations. He literally hasn't gained any time by leaving SOTG except now he does a podcast endorsed by EG, that is the definition of selling out. What is worse is that he completely outright lied and said it was because of time constraints that he was leaving SOTG, and you're going to lap that shit up? You're a deluded fanboy if that's what you'll settle for That post is so vile. If that guy you are replied to is a deluded fan boy, you have to be an iNcontroL/EG anti-fan. SOTG grew in popularity mutually with iNcontroL growing in popularity. He helped make SOTG great, and SOTG growing helped him. iNcontroL made himself. A nice symbiotic relationship here. Sure, for him the situation hasn't changed. He is still doing one show a week, just like he was before. The problem was that by the time everybody realized that the SOTG sponsorship deal fell through, ITG was a done deal - iNc was "stuck" with two shows a week - here's your time constraint. He was loyal to his team and dropped SOTG, saving x hours per week to dedicate to other things. Now that he dropped NASL, maybe we'll see him again doing SOTG as a pillar.
The fact that the bolded part is what you actually believe tells me that you are completely ignorant of the situation. Didn't you even SEE the screenshot which sparked this whole discussion in the first place?
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Never realized the complexities behind the SC2 Pro scene
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On June 29 2011 10:58 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:52 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:49 holy_war wrote:On June 29 2011 10:48 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:45 Kich wrote:On June 29 2011 10:40 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:27 Kich wrote:
IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP GEOFF ON THE SHOW EG OFFERED SOTG MONEY --
SOTG did not take their offer -- ok, what? Maybe i havent been listening to the stream closely enough, can you explain? In an attempt to keep Geoff on SOTG, they (EG) worked with their sponsors to give SOTG their own offer, which would let Geoff stay on the show. SOTG did not take their offer. I'm not sure how much more clearly that can be explained. After that didn't work, they assumed (since they received no information from JP) that JP was taking the other offer. Only at that point did EG start to create ITG--they didn't want Geoff to lose money because they respect their players and try to do as much as they can for them. They made a fucking weekly show for him. They found out that the SOTG offer fell through way too late and at that point ITG was already roaring and ready to go. There was no turning back at that point. Im pretty sure there must be more to it than "sotg did not take their offer" , incontrol is the most valuable co host of the show, im pretty sure they wouldnt just "deny" an offer that was the only option to keep incontrol on the show. There's more to it , im pretty sure. And Tyler's response backed it up. Ok so what i take from tyler's response is: The only way incontrol would have been able to keep doing sotg is if sotg took eg's offer, which would mean something bad enough that JP didnt want to take the offer. So basically scumbag eg wanted control over the show, something like that i would assume.Just speculating now, but why else wouldnt sotg take eg's offer? pretty much yes, EG wanted to control the show and when they couldnt do this they realised they can just boycott it and create their own clone of SOTG with idra/incontrol as hosts
i hope stuff like this gets a warning or something. i might have called someone uneducated earlier in the thread (and got warned), but at least i wasnt just making shit up like this guy
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On June 29 2011 10:46 coolcor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:29 Kich wrote:On June 29 2011 10:28 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 09:55 Jayrod wrote:
SOTG made you incontrol lol indeed sad to see incontrol sell out, but then what else is there to be expected from the guy who made gosuguide Saying SOTG made Incontrol is like saying SOTG made Day9 and Tyler. Would Tyler have gotten his personal gum sponsership if he wasn't on state of the game for sure? Would Incontrol be flying around having meetings with intel and making commercials if he wasn't on state of the game for sure? SOTG did not boost their popularity in any way they would have had the exact same number of fans without it and all those awesome things would have happened to them anyways? Day9 would have been the same anyways with all the commentating so he owes SOTG nothing! I'm not sure about the others.
I agree that Incontrol personally benefited from SOTG. I think he himself would not deny that. But please don't forget that he put in a lot of his time and efforts into SOTG. He was not some freeloader that joined halfway that reaped all the benefits and then left. He was part of (but not the only) reason why SOTG got so popular.
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On June 29 2011 11:00 Jisunsu wrote:
Never realized the complexities behind the SC2 Pro scene
Things always gets complex when moneys involved. And money is always involved.
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I feel like the phrase "sell out" is used far too often. Typically by immature teenagers, or even adults. A person needs to earn a living for his/her future, and for the support of his/her future or present family.
This is a man's number one priority: to provide for my family. Nothing else should be higher on your priority list. NOTHING. Because it is quite a shitty feeling (I'm assuming) to not be able to provide for your own family. So in my view, there is no selling out. There is only looking out for one's own family (like I said, future or present; it's never too early to think about your family), especially in this economy, get the best deal possible.
Oh and for those of you thinking Incontrol is not thinking about future family, don't be ridiculous. I believe he said he plans to propose to his girlfriend in the future, and obviously they will have children in the future. As this is the way of life.
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I hope JP can get Artosis or Tasteless more regular on the show ideally to be one of the 4 pillars. Artosis, Day9, Tyler and JP would have great synergy. If Dan would get payed (sponsors), I'm sure he would manage to make time for SoTG even with tight schedule around GOMtv. Not like he would not do it otherwise but it's much easier make time if money is involved.
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On June 29 2011 11:01 holy_war wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 11:00 Jisunsu wrote:
Never realized the complexities behind the SC2 Pro scene Things always gets complex when moneys involved. And money is always involved.
Yeah, its like everything turns to shit once money is involved, so sad.
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On June 29 2011 11:00 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:58 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 10:52 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:49 holy_war wrote:On June 29 2011 10:48 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:45 Kich wrote:On June 29 2011 10:40 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:27 Kich wrote:
IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP GEOFF ON THE SHOW EG OFFERED SOTG MONEY --
SOTG did not take their offer -- ok, what? Maybe i havent been listening to the stream closely enough, can you explain? In an attempt to keep Geoff on SOTG, they (EG) worked with their sponsors to give SOTG their own offer, which would let Geoff stay on the show. SOTG did not take their offer. I'm not sure how much more clearly that can be explained. After that didn't work, they assumed (since they received no information from JP) that JP was taking the other offer. Only at that point did EG start to create ITG--they didn't want Geoff to lose money because they respect their players and try to do as much as they can for them. They made a fucking weekly show for him. They found out that the SOTG offer fell through way too late and at that point ITG was already roaring and ready to go. There was no turning back at that point. Im pretty sure there must be more to it than "sotg did not take their offer" , incontrol is the most valuable co host of the show, im pretty sure they wouldnt just "deny" an offer that was the only option to keep incontrol on the show. There's more to it , im pretty sure. And Tyler's response backed it up. Ok so what i take from tyler's response is: The only way incontrol would have been able to keep doing sotg is if sotg took eg's offer, which would mean something bad enough that JP didnt want to take the offer. So basically scumbag eg wanted control over the show, something like that i would assume.Just speculating now, but why else wouldnt sotg take eg's offer? pretty much yes, EG wanted to control the show and when they couldnt do this they realised they can just boycott it and create their own clone of SOTG with idra/incontrol as hosts i hope stuff like this gets a warning or something. i might have called someone uneducated earlier in the thread (and got warned), but at least i wasnt just making shit up like this guy
Yeah I'm really making shit up. What? Don't talk if you don't know anything.
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On June 29 2011 11:01 Sipher wrote:
I feel like the phrase "sell out" is used far too often. Typically by immature teenagers, or even adults. A person needs to earn a living for his/her future, and for the support of his/her future or present family.
This is a man's number one priority: to provide for my family. Nothing else should be higher on your priority list. NOTHING. Because it is quite a shitty feeling (I'm assuming) to not be able to provide for your own family. So in my view, there is no selling out. There is only looking out for one's own family (like I said, future or present; it's never too early to think about your family), especially in this economy, get the best deal possible.
Oh and for those of you thinking Incontrol is not thinking about future family, don't be ridiculous. I believe he said he plans to propose to his girlfriend in the future, and obviously they will have children in the future. As this is the way of life.
im with u on this one, guess everyone in the world who works to earn a living is a sellout cause u know, they're working for THE MAN, and not themselves.
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On June 29 2011 11:02 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 11:00 zev318 wrote:On June 29 2011 10:58 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 10:52 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:49 holy_war wrote:On June 29 2011 10:48 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:45 Kich wrote:On June 29 2011 10:40 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:27 Kich wrote:
IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP GEOFF ON THE SHOW EG OFFERED SOTG MONEY --
SOTG did not take their offer -- ok, what? Maybe i havent been listening to the stream closely enough, can you explain? In an attempt to keep Geoff on SOTG, they (EG) worked with their sponsors to give SOTG their own offer, which would let Geoff stay on the show. SOTG did not take their offer. I'm not sure how much more clearly that can be explained. After that didn't work, they assumed (since they received no information from JP) that JP was taking the other offer. Only at that point did EG start to create ITG--they didn't want Geoff to lose money because they respect their players and try to do as much as they can for them. They made a fucking weekly show for him. They found out that the SOTG offer fell through way too late and at that point ITG was already roaring and ready to go. There was no turning back at that point. Im pretty sure there must be more to it than "sotg did not take their offer" , incontrol is the most valuable co host of the show, im pretty sure they wouldnt just "deny" an offer that was the only option to keep incontrol on the show. There's more to it , im pretty sure. And Tyler's response backed it up. Ok so what i take from tyler's response is: The only way incontrol would have been able to keep doing sotg is if sotg took eg's offer, which would mean something bad enough that JP didnt want to take the offer. So basically scumbag eg wanted control over the show, something like that i would assume.Just speculating now, but why else wouldnt sotg take eg's offer? pretty much yes, EG wanted to control the show and when they couldnt do this they realised they can just boycott it and create their own clone of SOTG with idra/incontrol as hosts i hope stuff like this gets a warning or something. i might have called someone uneducated earlier in the thread (and got warned), but at least i wasnt just making shit up like this guy Yeah I'm really making shit up. What? Don't talk if you don't know anything.
where did EG say oh we have to control everything or else we pull incontrol/idra
and i dont want some bullshit where TYLER might have said it. unless JP himself says that's what EG was asking for or u have a screenshot of someone like sirscoots saying something like "OK EG will run the show or else idra/incontrol is out of here"
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On June 29 2011 10:27 Kich wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 10:20 caelym wrote:
Seems to me like ITG shouldn't have been conceived at all, and geoff should use that free time to practice. the center of this drama seems to be who gets geoff, and geoff chose the side with more money over the more popular, grassroots show. I don't really get how you can come to that conclusion after having it explained to you, more than once, verbatim. SOTG was offered money -- EG's sponsors can't have Geoff on the show if they get that money -- IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP GEOFF ON THE SHOW EG OFFERED SOTG MONEY -- SOTG did not take their offer -- ITG was born to keep Geoff's income exactly on par with how much he would have been making if SOTG got that sponsorship since EG appreciates their players and encourages them to pursue any additional avenue of income -- SOTG did not get that sponsorship -- ITG was already ready to go, and could not back out at that point -- Geoff was able to go back to SOTG -- Geoff would have had to do SOTG, ITG, NASL, compete, and live his fucking life as a human being for christ's sake, and find time for his girlfriend -- Geoff left SOTG and NASL in order to free up time. As a plus, he also gets more money, which we should be happy for him about. Go Geoff. *Wave flag.* What. The. Fuck. People. Just wanted to say thanks for this post, I caught like the last 5 mins of the show and had no idea what had been explained. Good summary 
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On June 29 2011 11:03 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 11:01 Sipher wrote:
I feel like the phrase "sell out" is used far too often. Typically by immature teenagers, or even adults. A person needs to earn a living for his/her future, and for the support of his/her future or present family.
This is a man's number one priority: to provide for my family. Nothing else should be higher on your priority list. NOTHING. Because it is quite a shitty feeling (I'm assuming) to not be able to provide for your own family. So in my view, there is no selling out. There is only looking out for one's own family (like I said, future or present; it's never too early to think about your family), especially in this economy, get the best deal possible.
Oh and for those of you thinking Incontrol is not thinking about future family, don't be ridiculous. I believe he said he plans to propose to his girlfriend in the future, and obviously they will have children in the future. As this is the way of life. im with u on this one, guess everyone in the world who works to earn a living is a sellout cause u know, they're working for THE MAN, and not themselves.
Instead of going on a rant about the way of life, maybe you should wonder why did it have to come to the point of EG having to make a separate state of the game clone, why couldnt geoff keep doing sotg and eg sponsored it?
Because eg put its interests first, they didnt care about sotg, they didnt care about what the community would lose, they only cared about making money.
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On June 29 2011 11:03 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 11:02 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 11:00 zev318 wrote:On June 29 2011 10:58 Maliris wrote:On June 29 2011 10:52 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:49 holy_war wrote:On June 29 2011 10:48 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:45 Kich wrote:On June 29 2011 10:40 smallerk wrote:On June 29 2011 10:27 Kich wrote:
IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP GEOFF ON THE SHOW EG OFFERED SOTG MONEY --
SOTG did not take their offer -- ok, what? Maybe i havent been listening to the stream closely enough, can you explain? In an attempt to keep Geoff on SOTG, they (EG) worked with their sponsors to give SOTG their own offer, which would let Geoff stay on the show. SOTG did not take their offer. I'm not sure how much more clearly that can be explained. After that didn't work, they assumed (since they received no information from JP) that JP was taking the other offer. Only at that point did EG start to create ITG--they didn't want Geoff to lose money because they respect their players and try to do as much as they can for them. They made a fucking weekly show for him. They found out that the SOTG offer fell through way too late and at that point ITG was already roaring and ready to go. There was no turning back at that point. Im pretty sure there must be more to it than "sotg did not take their offer" , incontrol is the most valuable co host of the show, im pretty sure they wouldnt just "deny" an offer that was the only option to keep incontrol on the show. There's more to it , im pretty sure. And Tyler's response backed it up. Ok so what i take from tyler's response is: The only way incontrol would have been able to keep doing sotg is if sotg took eg's offer, which would mean something bad enough that JP didnt want to take the offer. So basically scumbag eg wanted control over the show, something like that i would assume.Just speculating now, but why else wouldnt sotg take eg's offer? pretty much yes, EG wanted to control the show and when they couldnt do this they realised they can just boycott it and create their own clone of SOTG with idra/incontrol as hosts i hope stuff like this gets a warning or something. i might have called someone uneducated earlier in the thread (and got warned), but at least i wasnt just making shit up like this guy Yeah I'm really making shit up. What? Don't talk if you don't know anything. where did EG say oh we have to control everything or else we pull incontrol/idra
They had to control what sponsors appeared on the show, which pretty much had to be EG's sponsors or else Geoff couldn't be a pillar, and while IdrA wasn't a host he appeared quite frequently and may as well have been a pillar by the end of it all. Sirscoots even said Idra/incontrol cant be pillars and can only appear as guests now in the skype convo... Grats for not reading the thread
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On June 29 2011 11:03 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 11:01 Sipher wrote:
I feel like the phrase "sell out" is used far too often. Typically by immature teenagers, or even adults. A person needs to earn a living for his/her future, and for the support of his/her future or present family.
This is a man's number one priority: to provide for my family. Nothing else should be higher on your priority list. NOTHING. Because it is quite a shitty feeling (I'm assuming) to not be able to provide for your own family. So in my view, there is no selling out. There is only looking out for one's own family (like I said, future or present; it's never too early to think about your family), especially in this economy, get the best deal possible.
Oh and for those of you thinking Incontrol is not thinking about future family, don't be ridiculous. I believe he said he plans to propose to his girlfriend in the future, and obviously they will have children in the future. As this is the way of life. im with u on this one, guess everyone in the world who works to earn a living is a sellout cause u know, they're working for THE MAN, and not themselves.
He would prefer sotg over itg but did the latter because he could earn better. That's selling out. The fact that you like it or you don't does not change anything.
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I honestly don't see why EG has a problem with Incontrol being on a show sponsored by someone that doesn't sponsor EG. Their players participate in tournaments all the time which have different sponsors.
SOTG has done alot to boost Inc's celebrity and I think having him on the show would only mean good things for EG, not to mention he clearly wants to be on the show.
In Sweden there's a similar show with community figures and they sometimes make fun of the sponsorplugging that goes on in these American shows, they plug random stuff and random twitters etc haha. I wish they could find a better way to monetize the show or just keep it clean, all the sponsorplugging and twitter, facebook etc bla bla is so boring and I doubt it's that effective.
I feel bad for players when their commitments get in the way like this, it must really suck.
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