Then zerg will need to position ultras and lings so that lings aren't in front. I wouldn't want my roaches to start the battle behind the hydralisks, that would be silly.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

June 01 2010 20:31 GMT

#102

On June 02 2010 05:30 SnowJob wrote:
What did Peristalsis do, anyway? I don't remember which upgrade that was.

increased burrow speed from 1 to 1.75 for infestors. now they have that +more by default.

iLLusive

United States274 Posts

June 01 2010 20:31 GMT

#103

Hopefully this made some adjustments to black mini-map issue as well as Blank friends list. Overall decent balance, curious to see if speed change has any bearing on people actually using Ultra.

nihlon

Sweden5581 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#104

Even when it's a decent patch, people find things to bitch about. Amazing.

lew

Belgium205 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#105

Zergs were whining about the roach vs roach in zvz. Now they whine about ling/bling vs ling/bling. What do you guys actually want? In tvt it is tank/viking vs tank/viking and if you make something else, you die.

EleanorRIgby

Canada3923 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#106

now thats a ultra buff

Setz3R

United States455 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#107

Finally some zerg buffs come into fruition! (I primarly play protoss, but felt that zerg was a bit weaker in the ZvT MU)

This is an overall good patch, nothing too drastic, and nothing too meaningless and without just. If they patch like this all the time, I feel like the Blizzard flaming will cease a little

SpaceChick

173 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#108

On June 02 2010 05:32 nihlon wrote:
Even when it's a decent patch, people find things to bitch about. Amazing.

So true

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#109

best patch yet, honestly

finalboss

United States39 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#110

Ok so they fixed, or at least attempted to, the Terran mech vs Zerg push. Very good start I think, next up I'm sure they'll do PvT sillyness....the Viking thing is a bit of a nerf to help out Colossi I think, so it swings it a little bit towards that in favor.

AssuredVacancy

United States1167 Posts

June 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#111

Seems like this patch didn't address anything. ZvT mech is pretty much the same as before. Ultras are gonna be useless still, roaches still cost 2 food, and tanks still destroy everything in sight.

What's more sad is that this will probably be the last balance patch for the beta.

whaTITdoz

United States92 Posts

June 01 2010 20:33 GMT

#112

Anyone know if this fixed the black mini-map bug in-game or for watching replays? I haven't been able to watch replays since patch 13 because of the black mini-map bug.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

June 01 2010 20:33 GMT

#113

On June 02 2010 05:31 Lobo2me wrote:

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Then zerg will need to position ultras and lings so that lings aren't in front. I wouldn't want my roaches to start the battle behind the hydralisks, that would be silly.

Pssst if you are smart you put the lings to the side and swing around with them to cut off retreat. or use 4 lings for every ultralisk wide the choke you plan on fighting in. ultras can attack from behind a single layer of lings.

EleanorRIgby

Canada3923 Posts

June 01 2010 20:33 GMT

#114

On June 02 2010 05:32 finalboss wrote:
Ok so they fixed, or at least attempted to, the Terran mech vs Zerg push. Very good start I think, next up I'm sure they'll do PvT sillyness....the Viking thing is a bit of a nerf to help out Colossi I think, so it swings it a little bit towards that in favor.

Ground damage bro

Half

United States2554 Posts

June 01 2010 20:33 GMT

#115

On June 02 2010 05:24 Chill wrote:

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I get that, but you're telling me 2.95 doesn't work? REALLY?

Actually, i think it's because they used a mathematical algorithm to get the numbers. Like a certain %% of some other basic number in relationship to a ratio or something.

gdroxor

United States639 Posts

June 01 2010 20:33 GMT

#116

On June 02 2010 05:32 lew wrote:
Zergs were whining about the roach vs roach in zvz. Now they whine about ling/bling vs ling/bling. What do you guys actually want? In tvt it is tank/viking vs tank/viking and if you make something else, you die.

yep and toss feels like "colossus wars" or "find the void ray" right now.

Zeke50100

United States2220 Posts

June 01 2010 20:33 GMT

#117

Oh, wow, I totally forgot to mention how they should take a look at the Marauder. A GOOD look at the Marauder. A REALLY good look. Then, they should look us straight in the eye and say, "we're not going to make any changes"

I honestly don't think any type of Ultra buff will mean anything until they change the Marauder. It's a step in the right direction, though (albeit a small step)

Denarius Jay

42 Posts

June 01 2010 20:33 GMT

#118

Its a small patch. There hasn't been once decent Protoss change since beta started though, I would like to see something done more to archons and maybe cast range of the PSI Storm increased.

jamesr12

United States1549 Posts

June 01 2010 20:34 GMT

#119

On June 02 2010 05:32 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Seems like this patch didn't address anything. ZvT mech is pretty much the same as before. Ultras are gonna be useless still, roaches still cost 2 food, and tanks still destroy everything in sight.

What's more sad is that this will probably be the last balance patch for the beta.

I would bet on at least one in phase 2

Kletus

Canada580 Posts

June 01 2010 20:34 GMT

#120

On June 02 2010 05:31 Lobo2me wrote:

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Then zerg will need to position ultras and lings so that lings aren't in front. I wouldn't want my roaches to start the battle behind the hydralisks, that would be silly.

Now if only lings were ranged!