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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:11 Daniri wrote: What's so obvious about it being intentional that eggs revert to larva? from a programming/logical standpoint it's impossible for it to be an accidental change. from a programming standpoint it's analogous to unintentionally making breakfast when you tried to just sit in a chair and play some sc2. | ||
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loafmaster
United States203 Posts
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:19 ukshi wrote: Isn't the patch out in EU yet? Anyone knows? Scheduled maintance 19CET tonight. I guess it will get patched then. | ||
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SarcasticOne
Australia213 Posts
On April 23 2010 14:12 Kevmar wrote: They made this change for a reason. To keep with the spirit behind the change (prevent the issue where canceling a unit leaves you with no larva). I would suggest that all larva gets destroyed unless destroying the larva would leave you with less than 3 larva. So if you had 3 drones in eggs and you cancel, you have 3 larva for zerglings. If you have 7 drones in eggs and you cancel, you are only left with 3 larva. This removes the ability to generate extra larva for that early pool and still accomplishes the same thing. I kind of think they made this change to help deal with early rushes. Giving the user the ability to spot the early rush or cheese on its way, cancel the workers and make units. But when the larva dies too, this isn't an option. Early game is where that one or two larva will make the biggest difference. im fine with it giving back lava to a max of 3... any more than that is insane... DL'ing patch atm, am afraid of what will happen when i go up against Z's | ||
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Ironclown
United States73 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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Daniri
387 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:22 Zelniq wrote: from a programming/logical standpoint it's impossible for it to be an accidental change. from a programming standpoint it's analogous to unintentionally making breakfast when you tried to just sit in a chair and play some sc2. I don't know anything about programming, but from what I've seen from Blizzard, other games and software in general that seems highly unlikely. I recall one WoW patch that made it so if you were a certain race, class and gender and used a certain ability in a certain subzone you would mount a kodo. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:28 ShaperofDreams wrote: Of course this is a bug, there's no way that they wouldn't consider 12 lings in under two minutes as a good thing. If it was intentional then they would have completely disregarded the early game when making that decision. There is a good chance this isn't a bug. Its probably the case that blizzard wanted to decrease the amount of punishment that zerg received from canceling units, and bring that more in line with the other races, who can cancel production without a cost. The quick lings was an unintentional consequence of their fix, something they didnt see coming, much like the warp gate pvp. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:28 ShaperofDreams wrote: Of course this is a bug, there's no way that they wouldn't consider 12 lings in under two minutes as a good thing. If it was intentional then they would have completely disregarded the early game when making that decision. It doesn't need to be a bug... but more just a mistake... I doubt it's a programming error but more like just an oversight. Surely if it's that outrageous it will be fixed soon. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:24 Ironclown wrote: I JUST lost to this, 6 lings in my base before my zealot was out. I'm def not laddering til this is addressed which will probably be soon. If it was 6 lings they weren't using this exploit.... | ||
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:24 Ironclown wrote: I JUST lost to this, 6 lings in my base before my zealot was out. I'm def not laddering til this is addressed which will probably be soon. lol 6pool always gave you 6 lings at the same speed. this exploit does not speed up the time of the rush, just the amount of units in it lol. as terrans/protosses have said, just find a build to properly wall off and scout early enough and you can easily defend. | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:22 Zelniq wrote: from a programming/logical standpoint it's impossible for it to be an accidental change. from a programming standpoint it's analogous to unintentionally making breakfast when you tried to just sit in a chair and play some sc2. I like this analogy, but I've ended up unintentionally sitting in a chair and playing games all day when I tried to just make breakfast. On April 23 2010 16:31 Daniri wrote: I don't know anything about programming, but from what I've seen from Blizzard, other games and software in general that seems highly unlikely. I recall one WoW patch that made it so if you were a certain race, class and gender and used a certain ability in a certain subzone you would mount a kodo. Was this ability named "Mount Kodo"? | ||
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Daniri
387 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:40 Funchucks wrote: I like this analogy, but I've ended up unintentionally sitting in a chair and playing games all day when I tried to just make breakfast. Was this ability named "Mount Kodo"? Every bug has an explanation and that's one of the easier ones to explain. | ||
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Genesis128
Norway103 Posts
On April 23 2010 16:40 Funchucks wrote: I like this analogy, but I've ended up unintentionally sitting in a chair and playing games all day when I tried to just make breakfast. Was this ability named "Mount Kodo"? ROFL. Epic post :D | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
However, you absolutely need to scout this coming and build a very good wall. Hold the wall with 1 zealot (chronoboosted) and have a forge before core and build a cannon. Pull probes if your zealot is in danger of falling. You will be behind a regular build due to a delayed core but the Zerg will be somewhat behind as well (esp. if they did a fast pool). | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
On April 23 2010 17:02 Reborn8u wrote: THE BUG IS THAT THE HATCH KEEPS MAKING LARVA WHILE YOU HAVE EGGS! That's not new, though. You couldn't just change that alone. It would change zerg's whole production schedule. The new thing is that eggs are recoverable for use as larvae. They can do the easy thing and change that back, or the hard thing and rebalance zerg production from the ground up. | ||
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virusak
Czech Republic344 Posts
On April 23 2010 17:10 Ryuu314 wrote: Just played against it and it's definitely stoppable. However, you absolutely need to scout this coming and build a very good wall. Hold the wall with 1 zealot (chronoboosted) and have a forge before core and build a cannon. Pull probes if your zealot is in danger of falling. You will be behind a regular build due to a delayed core but the Zerg will be somewhat behind as well (esp. if they did a fast pool). you stopped 10 lings with 1 zealot? could you post replay? | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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