On April 23 2010 05:08 Redmark wrote:
People need to realize that they should - and do - indeed have a voice.
That voice is not your posting ability on the TeamLiquid forums.
That voice is your play, and when your massed marauders give you an 80% platinum winrate Blizzard will definitely hear.
These forums are for coming up with solutions; the beta itself is where you present the problem.

Thank you, this is an excellent point. If something is overpowered, you should abuse it into the ground until it's the only strategy on Battle.net.

Gont

Germany239 Posts

April 22 2010 20:10 GMT

#584

normal that the patch isnt online for EU yet?

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

April 22 2010 20:11 GMT

#585

anyone else having bug when trying to "apply new patch" it goes from 0%->100%->0%->100%->0%->100%->0%->100%->0%->100%-> in rapid succession and bugging out?

OrtegaPeru

79 Posts

April 22 2010 20:11 GMT

#586

On April 23 2010 05:07 FreshVegetables wrote:

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Because chat rooms are a thing what made Brood War so amazing. Like hanging out with your clan, battling other clans while meeting up in a channel. I mean do you honestly think people will play less if there are chat rooms? I think not, I actually think that people would play less in the long run.

Also if there were no chat rooms, people would still alt+tab back to desktop and hang out on IRC instead of using the integrated b.net 2.0 chatrooms. Which option seems more 2010? ^_^

I see your point and have changed my mind

How often does THAT happen on the internet?

I still think they should hold off and save it for release though to encourage more people who are logged on to play and not chat

TT1

Canada10052 Posts

April 22 2010 20:11 GMT

#587

On April 23 2010 05:11 ownageskynet wrote:
anyone else having bug when trying to "apply new patch" it goes from 0%->100%->0%->100%->0%->100%->0%->100%->0%->100%-> in rapid succession and bugging out?

having same prob lol

FlamingTurd

United States1059 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#588

Finally a bit of Z loving... just hope they increase the terrible Hydra speed.

StriverzG

United States115 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#589

dl is looping, 100% --> 0 --> jumps to 70% --> repeat

first blizzard patch FAIL

wolfe

United States761 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#590

Yeah here too, it's pretty widespread I would tell ya to just sit tight for a bit. Look on the sc2 beta forums a blue has taken notice and "they are looking into it".

Kletus

Canada580 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#591

On April 23 2010 05:11 iamtt1 wrote:

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having same prob lol

I'm about 75% done downloading right now. This patch is beefy ;p

Gigaudas

Sweden1213 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#592

On April 23 2010 04:55 virusak wrote:

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well I am online, and other 6000 people too...

Really?

It won't even patch for me.

coltrane

Chile988 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#593

I am getting a loop...

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#594

alright thank you

Leoj

United States396 Posts

April 22 2010 20:12 GMT

#595

BTW you can play around with the Editor:

Program Files\Starcraft II Beta\Starcraft Editor.exe

TT1

Canada10052 Posts

April 22 2010 20:13 GMT

#596

new spyware is bugging out

palanq

United States761 Posts

April 22 2010 20:13 GMT

#597

I don't mind the immortal nerf, actually, but god damn, can you make storm cost effective again? i'm sick of using colos every MU =(

toss still needs something effective against marauder/ghost

no more antpile attacks

good thing an infested terran can't catch up with a queen! (0.9375 vs 0.938 speed)

Tdelamay

Canada548 Posts

April 22 2010 20:13 GMT

#598

On April 23 2010 05:09 RoosterSamurai wrote:

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Yes, because they really need to build as fast as marines, amirite?

When your immortal take too long to arrive; build more buildings.

Crissaegrim

2947 Posts

April 22 2010 20:14 GMT

#599

On April 23 2010 05:08 ComradeDover wrote:

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On April 23 2010 05:07 Crissaegrim wrote:

On April 23 2010 05:04 ComradeDover wrote:

On April 23 2010 05:02 Crissaegrim wrote:

On April 23 2010 04:42 ComradeDover wrote:

On April 23 2010 04:38 Crissaegrim wrote:

On April 23 2010 04:32 ComradeDover wrote:

On April 23 2010 04:28 Crissaegrim wrote:

On April 23 2010 04:23 ComradeDover wrote:

It's less about your feedback and more about having some mice to run through the maze they made. Unless you really think your complain posts matter that much to blizzard. If they did, you'd see lurkers back in the game, roaches and marauders would be nerfed into oblivion, forcefield would have an HP bar, and infestors would cast Dark Swarm instead of infested terran.

Ask yourself if the your "feedback" is really all that valued. Then go back to running the maze, you mouse.

Well, then, I hope you're not posting any feedback because according to you, it's pointless. And no, I'm not naive just saying that having a voice to be heard is still vital to the improvement of the game.

Only feedback I've posted is "Thanks Blizzard. Keep up the good work! :D", because even Blizzard could use some encouragement.

And it really depends on what your voice is saying. If your voice is saying "Turn StarCraft 2 into StarCraft 1.1!", then no, your voice isn't vital to be heard. If your voice is saying "WAHH WAHH ROACHES MARAUDERS IMMORTALS WAHH WAHH", then your voice is equally useless to the improvement of the game.

Did I say that? All I said was that I disagreed with you saying that Blizzard knows better than we do.

You're still equally wrong. They're a successful game developer who's acknowleged to be the one of the industry leaders. They have an army of playtesters and statisticians and designers and the collective sum of the data gathered throughout the beta period. And you're an silver-ranked beta-investigation hero with a keyboard. Trust me, they know better than you.

Lol, I like the way you make groundless allegations against me. Trust you? Heck, I don' even know you. Anyway, back on topic, i agree that they do have an "army" of playtesters etc but the point is, blizzard may know ALOT more, but they might not know better. Consider the fact that they are: 1. A company bend on making sure the profit margins are nice and good and 2. The main people that call the shots are not necessarily players that play the game inside out. That's what the playtesters are for and us as well actually. But as head honcho they can overrule what their input is and do what they want.

Think the Pointy Haired Boss from Dilbert. To further elaborate, Dilbert is a highly qualified engineer, but yet, his Boss, who is lets face it, stupid, constantly overrules him.

I'm not saying that we should design the game. Or that its our game to create. I suppose I define "better" as having a well-balanced, exciting game, that allows for ingenious gameplay, and well rewarded micro, macro and strategy. If you define "better" as raking in the cash as in WoW type then yes, I agree Blizzard knows best.

You seem to have this picture of Blizzard as this giant company bent on sabatoging their own game, and thus they need you to complain and whine about how much you like lurkers so "your voice can be heard for the improvement of the game". Get a grip. Real life isn't like Dilbert.

Sigh, you keep making ad hominem arguments against me. I guess this is how you get your ego boost? Take care, and keep patting blizzard on the back. After all, they
need your encouragement!

Certainly a lot more than they need your ~~shitposts~~ voice to be heard for the improvement of the game.

Lol, I hope you be true to yourself and never ever post your opinions or such regarding balance because "Blizzard knows better". So the next time if you feel like complaining or such, shut up cause "Blizzard knows better".

HDstarcraft

United States577 Posts

April 22 2010 20:14 GMT

#600

Patch updater keeps restarting for me too. It also gives you that annoying windows error when it starts installing.

EDIT: And now it just straight up crashed.