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On April 24 2010 02:22 Mnemic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 01:49 BentoBox wrote:
You can't possibly be SERIOUS.
This is why sifting through these boards is such a pain. Every uninformed person wants to have their say about balance when the level they play at doesn't even warrant any form of complaint.
PLEASE, take a step back and actually learn to play the game before mouthing off nonsense. Very nice argumented reply. If its such a pain why are u bothering yourself?
My argument stands very well on its own. Self-proclaimed messiahs believing they actually have a strong grasp of the in-game balance based on very limited play experience. If you're going to argue about a unit being useless, bring up factual evidence, or at least watch top level play games to have a better situation of the current metagame.
It bothers me because everyone on these boards loves to complain about XYZ when they are simply uninformed. It appears its just the cool thing to do, eh?
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Spose that patch still isn't out for EU yet ? 
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On April 24 2010 02:29 BentoBox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 02:22 Mnemic wrote:On April 24 2010 01:49 BentoBox wrote:
You can't possibly be SERIOUS.
This is why sifting through these boards is such a pain. Every uninformed person wants to have their say about balance when the level they play at doesn't even warrant any form of complaint.
PLEASE, take a step back and actually learn to play the game before mouthing off nonsense. Very nice argumented reply. If its such a pain why are u bothering yourself? My argument stands very well on its own. Self-proclaimed messiahs believing they actually have a strong grasp of the in-game balance based on very limited play experience. If you're going to argue about a unit being useless, bring up factual evidence, or at least watch top level play games to have a better situation of the current metagame. It bothers me because everyone on these boards loves to complain about XYZ when they are simply uninformed. It appears its just the cool thing to do, eh?
I agree with you Bento, I do post the occasional thing about fixing something, but usually I try to have the facts straight before I do.
I like the "I don't have a key but I was watching streams and here is my opinion on how to fix the game."
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is it me or did they take out the grid for Forcefields when you're about to cast it?
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On April 24 2010 02:30 Alexc26 wrote:Spose that patch still isn't out for EU yet ?
Not for me. It's 19:40h and I still can log in and play @ EU servers on old patch.
P.S.
Can someone answer the question about account (profile) reset? Did they reset profiles for you guys on US servers?
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Can anyone else confirm that you can no longer add to control groups with shift-ctrl? (i noticed it while playing in beta this morning, but maybe i'm just crazy) This seems like a silly change, and I have to wonder if they meant to remove that feature.
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Yes, everything was reset on the US servers~
@bellaisa, the grid now fades in :O
@cwedrin, its shift+# to add an unit to an existing control group. ctrl+# to create/overwrite a group.
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Two questions:
1) Can we use map preference tool for ladder? I am really sick of some maps and would be awesome to be able to kick some of them from rotation.
2) Did they change or tweak Matchmaking and League advancing? Is it easier now to advance from league to league? Before Patch 8 I was sitting in top5 of gold league for like weeks, that sucks! :>
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1) Labelling a map as unwanted will just lower your chances of playing on it. What would happen if you were to cross out all the maps except Steppes? It wouldn't be realistic to have you climb through the ranks by playing one single map over and over. I believe that when it searches for a game, it'll first try to pair you on a map you both like, but if you pay attention to the status of the query, at one point it indicates that its "extending" the searching which can only mean that it's disregarding your preferences (imo).
2) Orb went from gold to platinum in under 10 games yesterday. I believe that to move on, you need to have a long standing streak as to show that you are clearly better. Just being top5 doesn't cut it afaik.
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Thanks for answers mate! Sounds cool =)
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On April 24 2010 02:30 Alexc26 wrote:Spose that patch still isn't out for EU yet ?
hopefully we will get patch 9.0b with hotfix 
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On April 24 2010 01:32 Mnemic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 00:34 Kaniol wrote:How is this related to "Blizz doesnt know what to do regarding balance"? Browder just stated that TvP is P>T and that is true, most TL users seem to agree with this as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8937http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8940Most people seem to think that it's so easy to balance game "immortals are so powerful, nerf them and it will be ok". But it does not work that way, sometimes slight change can break the game and they are well aware of this. At this moment SC2 is way more balanced than when it was released - and it is a sign that Blizzard's balance changes are going in very good direction Actually its more related to the new patch. Dustin clearly stated they want more unit diversitiy in sc2. I dont think that it can be achived only by nerfing/buffing marauders. Why didnt they increase the raven's point defense drone mana for example? Currently its useless. Why didnt they make the terran mech more mobile? If they need to make certain or all matchups broken just to get more info then let it be (if thats nescesery for more unit dversitiy, i can live with that). just my opinion....
PDD useless? It's damn good ability, it seriously doesn't need any buff...
Mech more mobile? The whole idea of mech was always it's strength in position-based play in cost of mobility, giving mech mobility is against this. It needs buff, sure but not by making it more mobile.
And the thing is - Blizzard will not achieve unit diversity with one patch, don't you see that they are progressing? They don't want revolution, but evolution. From patch to patch i can already see them getting closer to their goal. IMO the worst changes were the ones in which Blizz tried to fix problems too rapidly - like when they both nerfed marine build time, reactor build time and decreased hp instead of just going step by step and stopping when it was fixed, same with mothership, instead of just removing the skill that allowed it to teleport to safety they replaced their every skill and made other nerfs (even though i'm sure that MS would suck anyway without this skill and be overpowered with it)
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why do people say zerg are boring?
is there a thread better explaining the boring zerg issue?
we see high level korean players using zerglings, banelings, ultras (not so much), hydras and mutas to good effect as well as corrupter/broodlord.... with roaches. it's only the sort of B-C class of players who just macro up and don't move out until they've got ~30 roaches and creep covering half the map.
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Has anyone else felt like the zoomlevel has changed since this patch? I feel like the camera is closer to the ground then it used to be. Also feel like there's less distance for zooming in and out.
Am I the only one?
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fuk i'm tired to see the same posts again and again, is there a way to read only posts by guys with like 500+ posts ? Soooo fucking sick of 1 or 2 liners posters out there.
Got tired of reading like 5+ pages of the same shits while i was searching for a constructive post about the hotkey change, especially the one with hatchery and queens on the same hotkey not spawning larvaes anymore on the lower box or whatever you say it.
And Sorry didn't read the whole thread. You know why.
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I changed my hotkeys with that hotkey changer thing somewhere on the first or second page of this forum and now I love life again.
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On April 30 2010 07:29 RaiZ wrote:
fuk i'm tired to see the same posts again and again, is there a way to read only posts by guys with like 500+ posts ? Soooo fucking sick of 1 or 2 liners posters out there.
Got tired of reading like 5+ pages of the same shits while i was searching for a constructive post about the hotkey change, especially the one with hatchery and queens on the same hotkey not spawning larvaes anymore on the lower box or whatever you say it.
And Sorry didn't read the whole thread. You know why.
Quite an elitist huh?
Not every SC2 player has been an active SC1 player and been active on this forum.
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On April 30 2010 08:26 Erucious wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 07:29 RaiZ wrote:
fuk i'm tired to see the same posts again and again, is there a way to read only posts by guys with like 500+ posts ? Soooo fucking sick of 1 or 2 liners posters out there.
Got tired of reading like 5+ pages of the same shits while i was searching for a constructive post about the hotkey change, especially the one with hatchery and queens on the same hotkey not spawning larvaes anymore on the lower box or whatever you say it.
And Sorry didn't read the whole thread. You know why. Quite an elitist huh? Not every SC2 player has been an active SC1 player and been active on this forum.
while true, he has a point, the number of low quality posters has increased by over 500% since the beta started, most of which have less then 10 posts.
I know a lot of newer people are trying hard, but the majority are really giving them a bad name...
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On April 24 2010 03:18 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 01:32 Mnemic wrote:On April 24 2010 00:34 Kaniol wrote:How is this related to "Blizz doesnt know what to do regarding balance"? Browder just stated that TvP is P>T and that is true, most TL users seem to agree with this as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8937http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8940Most people seem to think that it's so easy to balance game "immortals are so powerful, nerf them and it will be ok". But it does not work that way, sometimes slight change can break the game and they are well aware of this. At this moment SC2 is way more balanced than when it was released - and it is a sign that Blizzard's balance changes are going in very good direction Actually its more related to the new patch. Dustin clearly stated they want more unit diversitiy in sc2. I dont think that it can be achived only by nerfing/buffing marauders. Why didnt they increase the raven's point defense drone mana for example? Currently its useless. Why didnt they make the terran mech more mobile? If they need to make certain or all matchups broken just to get more info then let it be (if thats nescesery for more unit dversitiy, i can live with that). just my opinion.... PDD useless? It's damn good ability, it seriously doesn't need any buff... Mech more mobile? The whole idea of mech was always it's strength in position-based play in cost of mobility, giving mech mobility is against this. It needs buff, sure but not by making it more mobile. And the thing is - Blizzard will not achieve unit diversity with one patch, don't you see that they are progressing? They don't want revolution, but evolution. From patch to patch i can already see them getting closer to their goal. IMO the worst changes were the ones in which Blizz tried to fix problems too rapidly - like when they both nerfed marine build time, reactor build time and decreased hp instead of just going step by step and stopping when it was fixed, same with mothership, instead of just removing the skill that allowed it to teleport to safety they replaced their every skill and made other nerfs (even though i'm sure that MS would suck anyway without this skill and be overpowered with it)
point defense drone = win agreed x infinity
the skill is clutch, and the cost of getting to actually use it is worthit.
just one pdd will get you 1-1/5 volleys against t or z(with hydras), i think any kind of semi invincibility skill is good if accessible at ALL.
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