EPTThey don't deserve attention, that's what I'm saying.
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
They don't deserve attention, that's what I'm saying. | ||
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:58 Graupe wrote: Yeah that's exactly what I feel too. I think it's a shame that this thread goes the way it does. EG didn't blame or attack anyone. EG even complimented TL so often and ppl in this thread just prove the whole opposite - stupid tl-fanboyism and one sided argumentation. Don't get me wrong I love TL, but some ppl in this thread are mad. He's making the argument that we're accountable to EG. We're not. TL is a completely separate entity from EG. If you have a PR nightmare it's not because of TL's "irresponsible reporting", it's because you. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On July 22 2011 10:00 hyptonic wrote: Really, the bias in this episode so damn visible. I thought wheat was better than this. He already admitted that he was biased. He NEVER claimed not to be. That's a good thing, he wanted to be part of the show, not just some kind of judge between the 2 guests. | ||
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freddyy
Sweden56 Posts
Use some moderation. Don't let guests override each other. Don't consequently interrupt one of the guests, and follow it up with saying how you can see where the other one is coming from. | ||
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kardinal
Sweden154 Posts
On July 22 2011 10:02 MCDayC wrote: He already admitted that he was biased. He NEVER claimed not to be. That's a good thing, he wanted to be part of the show, not just some kind of judge between the 2 guests. It's his show? | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:58 Graupe wrote: Yeah that's exactly what I feel too. I think it's a shame that this thread goes the way it does. EG didn't blame or attack anyone. EG even complimented TL so often and ppl in this thread just prove the whole opposite - stupid tl-fanboyism and one sided argumentation. Don't get me wrong I love TL, but some ppl in this thread are mad. Alex was arguing that anyone who posts something presented as an observation on Team Liquid is a journalist. That a private person's (who is not a journalist) tweets should be representative of both sides. That was the logical conclusion of his argument. I'm sorry, but if you agree with that, you are not too bright. | ||
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TealLurker
United States791 Posts
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
But Milkis should probably have said, 'Yes I am a journalist and I reported about a situation based on being in touch with people on the Korean side and reading PlayXP etc.' | ||
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sigoly
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
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d.arkive
United States843 Posts
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
I have no problem with what Milkis said, I gained a lot of respect for him, however if you want the 'Korean' perspective, you really have to get Mr. Chae or someone on that level. Milkis is not a spokesman for the 'Korean model' yet Alex is a spokesman for the 'Western model'. It's not really equals having a conversation with kind of manifested itself in the show. Again I want to be clear that I really like Milkis, like what he said on the show, and applaud him for going on it. but it wasn't a fair situation to be in for him. | ||
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KingGreasy
United States162 Posts
right before the interview started he said that he already had an opinion and it would show. Then in the middle of them talking he did say something along the line of this is going to happen more often and get used to it. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
EG, AG, Wheat stock plummeting. Buy grain. | ||
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novat
Great Britain33 Posts
On July 22 2011 10:02 MCDayC wrote: He already admitted that he was biased. He NEVER claimed not to be. That's a good thing, he wanted to be part of the show, not just some kind of judge between the 2 guests. True, 2 "professionals" with a lot of experience in talking publicly against someone like Milkis seems to be a good and fair thing. | ||
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Blitz Beat
United States178 Posts
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dicedicerevolution
United States245 Posts
While Milkis also makes a very valid point of "this is sort of responsibility is beyond my pay-grade," there's no escaping the actual influence he has (which is exactly what Alex points out is an attribute of journalism). To make an extreme example (and I will say explicitly isn't a reference to anything imagined or otherwise), it would be possible for a TL.net poster to make a libelous claim which later becomes revealed to be false, but the damage already being done and irreversible to an extent. The recourse for the individuals being wrong in such a case of libel would have little to no recourse beyond an honor system of sorts (a public apology, etc.). Even in an instance of a less malevolent example of say, simple incompetence, the damage would still be the same and public opinion even less sympathetic to those wronged (it was an accident, they shouldn't be so mad). It's really an unfortunate situation for all involved, but I do think that actually addressing these issues would help eSports move forward as a whole, especially since the solution inescapably involves the community. We're standing on an opportunity here, and the way to capitalize on it is to take responsibility together and become stronger for it. | ||
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zeru
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Lacke
Sweden46 Posts
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