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zomgzergrush
United States923 Posts
does blizzards idea of raising terran win rates involve making them cheesier than they already are? also, i think roach nerfs are interesting. that will help p in pvz but assrape roaches more than they already do in zvt. even easier maurader kills.... least they got like 75% of the patch right... but when will they learn that fucking up a unit thats rarely used (dt) WONT make it played MORE | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Really show they're listening and want more diversity. | ||
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member1987
141 Posts
Stalker nerf was good though, though we'll have to just wait and see. Roaches nerf seems also fine, SCV's got nerfed a little bit too much, they SHOULD HAVE been nerfed buy not that much, maybe like 5HP, but make them less priority targets so that units don't attack them and attack the enemies attacking units. Improved zerg visibility on creep - I wonder how they did this. | ||
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squ1d
United States178 Posts
On March 26 2010 09:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: My first thought is that this seems terrible. How is Protoss supposed to play PvT when tech lab is cheaper (faster marauders), stalkers do the same damage vs marauders as they did before, ghost is cheaper, fact is cheaper, viking is less gas, dt is more expensive, colossus doesn't 1 shot kill stimmed rines anymore, obs is slower and more expensive, bunkers are faster. The only thing they fixed is the rine/scv rush and the rest is exactly the opposite from what any top player expected. Wouldn't the timing for fast immortals still be enough to stop marauders with a sentry and a couple of stalkers? | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
and scvs? really? NERF THE ROACH + BROODLORDS ALREADY this is wtf, marines? and when were templar OP? when was dark shrine op? what is this?... | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On March 26 2010 09:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:colossus doesn't 1 shot kill stimmed rines anymore What? Stimmed marine = 35 hp right? And colossus does 2x20? | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
Not sure about everything else as of yet :p | ||
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squ1d
United States178 Posts
On March 26 2010 09:25 hugman wrote: What? Stimmed marine = 35 hp right? And colossus does 2x20? 45hp with the shield upgrade. | ||
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RPGabe
United States192 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Reactor 25 -> 50 (would make it 25->40) Baneling buff Those three are not really understandable to me; All others are fine. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On March 26 2010 09:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: My first thought is that this seems terrible. How is Protoss supposed to play PvT when tech lab is cheaper (faster marauders), stalkers do the same damage vs marauders as they did before, ghost is cheaper, fact is cheaper, viking is less gas, dt is more expensive, colossus doesn't 1 shot kill stimmed rines anymore, obs is slower and more expensive, bunkers are faster. The only thing they fixed is the rine/scv rush and the rest is exactly the opposite from what any top player expected. For what it's worth, the area of emp is now less than half of what it used to be for 75% of the gas cost. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
SCVs should also have their attack speed decreased to that of probes and drones, so they all have the same dps. I don't know why observers were nerfed, they were good as it is. Protoss needs observers since T and Z can easily deny probe scouts. Stalkers are a bit more reasonable, but still not good enough. 14 damage to armored sucks. They still get destroyed by marauders, roaches, and hydras. Hopefully stalkers can at least take on marines now. I think that lowering the price of stalkers to 125/25 would be reasonable, and give them back +1 (+1 to armored). 20 dmg fully upgraded isn't powerful at all. I don't get why they nerfed the dark shrine, like DTs are super late tech as it and u need a whole building just for them. Overall, they need to give Protoss something. Colossi are no longer good since they can't 1 hit marines anymore. They have an ever harder time scouting now, and DTs are less practical than it already was. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
Alright then. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Wintermute
United States427 Posts
On March 26 2010 09:25 hugman wrote: What? Stimmed marine = 35 hp right? And colossus does 2x20? I assume he means with the shield. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On March 26 2010 09:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: My first thought is that this seems terrible. How is Protoss supposed to play PvT when tech lab is cheaper (faster marauders), stalkers do the same damage vs marauders as they did before, ghost is cheaper, fact is cheaper, viking is less gas, dt is more expensive, colossus doesn't 1 shot kill stimmed rines anymore, obs is slower and more expensive, bunkers are faster. The only thing they fixed is the rine/scv rush and the rest is exactly the opposite from what any top player expected. Not really they've done exactly what people expected. They nerfed Terran early game and nerfed Protoss later in the game also weakening EMP. | ||
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lunar3force
78 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
I like the Stalker change though. Observer change popped out to me as a big deal. Aren't Observer's already really important to keep alive because of their 75 gas? Not so sure I like the increase there, but then again I'm a noob so who knows. Aren't they the only viable way to scout as probes get taken out relatively easily? I like how they are trying to improve some visibility aspects. I really like: Pathing has been improved so units can now properly block ramps and choke points. | ||
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
Unit pathing fixed happy about that though FK 45HP SCV T_______T | ||
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Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
On March 26 2010 09:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I am utterly confused by this patch. you're not the only one Vic | ||
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