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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 20:56:54
March 12 2010 20:47 GMT
#61
omfg

warp gate was needed. Dunno if this will fix the issue or just delay it though.

Burrow nerf whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy????

I can understand the nydus mouth delay, that thing spawned way too fast. Say you had ur units at ur nat on DO, and a nydus spawns in the back of ur main. Even if you see it drop down, you can't get there in time.

Yea hydras needed a little nerf imo.

I can understand some of the infestor nerfs ,but the life reduction? wtf they die so easily already. >.<

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 12 2010 20:49 GMT
#62
woah...
so infestors can neural parasite a unit..forever?

KTY
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
March 12 2010 20:49 GMT
#63
Nice to see the hydralisk nerf. Using infestors I'm still more worried about the instant interrupt from phoenix than I am about a range nerf.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7040 Posts
March 12 2010 20:49 GMT
#64
On March 13 2010 05:42 -orb- wrote:
Wow so they nerfed the warp gate build time for pvp and didn't even think of the ramifications for pvt and pvz

good luck holding off a roach build with anything other than immortals now

thanks for making the game single-strat blizzzard

I don't think there's any simple way to fix warp gates for pvp without it having any effect on the other races, I'm also sure they did not just randomly choose to use this way to balance pvp strategies but they have good reasoning to use this one over the other ways of doing so.

Besides that its just the beta and they're allowed to fuck around if they feel its needed.
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
March 12 2010 20:49 GMT
#65
On March 13 2010 05:47 BladeRunner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 05:44 genwar wrote:
Just going to put in into perspective for, burrow nerfs, infestors nerfs and nydus nerfs, I never actually used any of these and still win majority of my games in plat.


Do none of your games make it to the midgame? Nydus is very, very useful... Also you must have never fought a thor-backed army if you don't think infestors are useful Even NP'ing a single thor can dramatically change a battle's outcome


Majority of my games end around the 3 base point15-20mins, I don't doubt the strength of these before this patch but it was never necessary for my games.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
March 12 2010 20:50 GMT
#66
On March 13 2010 05:42 -orb- wrote:
Wow so they nerfed the warp gate build time for pvp and didn't even think of the ramifications for pvt and pvz

good luck holding off a roach build with anything other than immortals now

thanks for making the game single-strat blizzzard


Isn't 1 gate -> robo -> 2nd gate the typical counter to roach rush... just get that 1 immortal out really quick, ez pz?
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 12 2010 20:50 GMT
#67
On March 13 2010 05:45 Jenia6109 wrote:
Finally Zerg Nerf


Funny sidenote: I am currently around rank 10 platinum without ever using infestors or nydus worms offensively (unless the game was 100% over). I don't even use burrow. So I only really care about the hydra nerf for now, and it doesn't seem very significant to me.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
March 12 2010 20:50 GMT
#68
Protoss change could make PvP actually worth playing.
As zerg I only am unhappy with the hydralisk nerf.
_EmIL_
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden138 Posts
March 12 2010 20:50 GMT
#69
Its more that Roaches are the problem, cant see why they havent got any nerf yet.

And Stalkers are such a disapointment.. 8 atk + 6?? what a joke.. Theres pretty much no point in making stalkers.
Losing is winning
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 12 2010 20:53 GMT
#70
On March 13 2010 05:50 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 05:45 Jenia6109 wrote:
Finally Zerg Nerf


Funny sidenote: I am currently around rank 10 platinum without ever using infestors or nydus worms offensively (unless the game was 100% over). I don't even use burrow. So I only really care about the hydra nerf for now, and it doesn't seem very significant to me.


I don't see how you can't use infestors in ZvT, fungal is just too good here. Nydus, yea you don't need it. Burrow is really only used to block expos or in ZvZ. So yea the nerfs are not anything crazy.

What they really need to nerf is imbalords lol. Fucking clean up so many close games by just making a half a dozen of these.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Tray
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
March 12 2010 20:54 GMT
#71
On March 13 2010 05:50 _EmIL_ wrote:
Its more that Roaches are the problem, cant see why they havent got any nerf yet.

And Stalkers are such a disapointment.. 8 atk + 6?? what a joke.. Theres pretty much no point in making stalkers.


Thinking like that will ensure that you remain in the copper/bronze league. I had some noob protoss partner that refused to make stalkers because "they suck" and he would get rolled in 2v2 every time because you simply can't underestimate the power of range.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
March 12 2010 20:54 GMT
#72
I like these changes .

I'm a protoss player and warp gate tech definitely needed an increase in research time.

Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 20:56:11
March 12 2010 20:54 GMT
#73
Good patch overall, though I really, really wish they'd get around to buffing Stalkers soon. Right now, they do less damage than an unupgraded Marine versus light...and cost more than twice as much. It's pretty ridiculous.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 21:11:35
March 12 2010 20:55 GMT
#74
On March 13 2010 05:50 _EmIL_ wrote:
Its more that Roaches are the problem, cant see why they havent got any nerf yet.

And Stalkers are such a disapointment.. 8 atk + 6?? what a joke.. Theres pretty much no point in making stalkers.


Well if you weren't dumb you'd realize that dragoons do half damage to zeals, lings, marines etc in scbw. So it's nearly the same. Zeal shields are reduced as well. The biggest problem with them is their HP.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
March 12 2010 20:56 GMT
#75
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
March 12 2010 20:56 GMT
#76
On March 13 2010 05:55 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 05:50 _EmIL_ wrote:
Its more that Roaches are the problem, cant see why they havent got any nerf yet.

And Stalkers are such a disapointment.. 8 atk + 6?? what a joke.. Theres pretty much no point in making stalkers.


Well if you weren't dumb you'd realize that dragoons do 8 damage to zeals, lings, marines etc in scbw. So it's nearly the same. Zeal shields are reduced as well. The biggest problem with them is their HP.

8 Damage...?
They should do 10 damage barring armor.
z01
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada96 Posts
March 12 2010 20:56 GMT
#77
On March 13 2010 05:47 HazMat wrote:
Wish they buffed Stalkers instead of nerfing warpgates like crazy.


Agreed. I think the warpgate change was HUGE and maybe could've been a little lower, but with chrono boost it might be fine, I haven't tested it yet. And I don't see why they didn't add even +2 attack to stalkers. They do the least amount of damage in the protoss arsenal.
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
March 12 2010 20:57 GMT
#78
I want the Queen to spwan 3 larvas only!
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
March 12 2010 20:57 GMT
#79
On March 13 2010 05:50 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 05:45 Jenia6109 wrote:
Finally Zerg Nerf


Funny sidenote: I am currently around rank 10 platinum without ever using infestors or nydus worms offensively (unless the game was 100% over). I don't even use burrow. So I only really care about the hydra nerf for now, and it doesn't seem very significant to me.


^Testament to how OP zerg is
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
March 12 2010 20:57 GMT
#80
Really supprised no change to Brood lords. It has to be the most obvious imbalance out there right now.
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