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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
warp gate was needed. Dunno if this will fix the issue or just delay it though. Burrow nerf whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???? I can understand the nydus mouth delay, that thing spawned way too fast. Say you had ur units at ur nat on DO, and a nydus spawns in the back of ur main. Even if you see it drop down, you can't get there in time. Yea hydras needed a little nerf imo. I can understand some of the infestor nerfs ,but the life reduction? wtf they die so easily already. >.< | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
so infestors can neural parasite a unit..forever? | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
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Puosu
7080 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:42 -orb- wrote: Wow so they nerfed the warp gate build time for pvp and didn't even think of the ramifications for pvt and pvz good luck holding off a roach build with anything other than immortals now thanks for making the game single-strat blizzzard I don't think there's any simple way to fix warp gates for pvp without it having any effect on the other races, I'm also sure they did not just randomly choose to use this way to balance pvp strategies but they have good reasoning to use this one over the other ways of doing so. Besides that its just the beta and they're allowed to fuck around if they feel its needed. | ||
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genwar
Canada537 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:47 BladeRunner wrote: Do none of your games make it to the midgame? Nydus is very, very useful... Also you must have never fought a thor-backed army if you don't think infestors are useful  Even NP'ing a single thor can dramatically change a battle's outcomeMajority of my games end around the 3 base point15-20mins, I don't doubt the strength of these before this patch but it was never necessary for my games. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:42 -orb- wrote: Wow so they nerfed the warp gate build time for pvp and didn't even think of the ramifications for pvt and pvz good luck holding off a roach build with anything other than immortals now thanks for making the game single-strat blizzzard Isn't 1 gate -> robo -> 2nd gate the typical counter to roach rush... just get that 1 immortal out really quick, ez pz? | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:45 Jenia6109 wrote: Finally Zerg Nerf Funny sidenote: I am currently around rank 10 platinum without ever using infestors or nydus worms offensively (unless the game was 100% over). I don't even use burrow. So I only really care about the hydra nerf for now, and it doesn't seem very significant to me. | ||
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Slunk
Germany768 Posts
As zerg I only am unhappy with the hydralisk nerf. | ||
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_EmIL_
Sweden138 Posts
And Stalkers are such a disapointment.. 8 atk + 6?? what a joke.. Theres pretty much no point in making stalkers. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:50 spinesheath wrote: Funny sidenote: I am currently around rank 10 platinum without ever using infestors or nydus worms offensively (unless the game was 100% over). I don't even use burrow. So I only really care about the hydra nerf for now, and it doesn't seem very significant to me. I don't see how you can't use infestors in ZvT, fungal is just too good here. Nydus, yea you don't need it. Burrow is really only used to block expos or in ZvZ. So yea the nerfs are not anything crazy. What they really need to nerf is imbalords lol. Fucking clean up so many close games by just making a half a dozen of these. | ||
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Tray
United States122 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:50 _EmIL_ wrote: Its more that Roaches are the problem, cant see why they havent got any nerf yet. And Stalkers are such a disapointment.. 8 atk + 6?? what a joke.. Theres pretty much no point in making stalkers. Thinking like that will ensure that you remain in the copper/bronze league. I had some noob protoss partner that refused to make stalkers because "they suck" and he would get rolled in 2v2 every time because you simply can't underestimate the power of range. | ||
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
.I'm a protoss player and warp gate tech definitely needed an increase in research time. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3137 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:50 _EmIL_ wrote: Its more that Roaches are the problem, cant see why they havent got any nerf yet. And Stalkers are such a disapointment.. 8 atk + 6?? what a joke.. Theres pretty much no point in making stalkers. Well if you weren't dumb you'd realize that dragoons do half damage to zeals, lings, marines etc in scbw. So it's nearly the same. Zeal shields are reduced as well. The biggest problem with them is their HP. | ||
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:55 CharlieMurphy wrote: Well if you weren't dumb you'd realize that dragoons do 8 damage to zeals, lings, marines etc in scbw. So it's nearly the same. Zeal shields are reduced as well. The biggest problem with them is their HP. 8 Damage...? They should do 10 damage barring armor. | ||
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z01
Canada96 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:47 HazMat wrote: Wish they buffed Stalkers instead of nerfing warpgates like crazy. Agreed. I think the warpgate change was HUGE and maybe could've been a little lower, but with chrono boost it might be fine, I haven't tested it yet. And I don't see why they didn't add even +2 attack to stalkers. They do the least amount of damage in the protoss arsenal. | ||
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IPS.Mardow.
Germany713 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On March 13 2010 05:50 spinesheath wrote: Funny sidenote: I am currently around rank 10 platinum without ever using infestors or nydus worms offensively (unless the game was 100% over). I don't even use burrow. So I only really care about the hydra nerf for now, and it doesn't seem very significant to me. ^Testament to how OP zerg is | ||
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
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