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On September 15 2012 04:19 Louis8k8 wrote: I think the biggest "??" was the Reaper buff. I have no comments. It's just interesting that Blizzard thought of giving it such an ability. They want the unit to be actually used. Now we need the widow mines to be fixed, because they still suck and some solid mech unit that isn't warhound.
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wow really impressed by Blizzard...TvT is saved and Protoss looks interesting.
For the bad: what the HELL is it with the BC and Raven nerfs??
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I liked what they said on ITG about changing the Warhound. I think their missle anti-mechanical attack should be casted rather than autocast and nerfed slightly. If this is done the Warhound might have a place.
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On September 15 2012 04:21 spbelky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 04:19 SolidMoose wrote:On September 15 2012 04:18 spbelky wrote: I'll be honest, I'm really worried about Mech in TvP now. As it stands... Carrier is the counter to Terran mech, except for when the Terran gets 3/3 updgrades and sufficient Thors to melt the interceptors/tank damage, or enough BC's to yamato the Carriers. Both Thors and BCs are Massive. I'm just worried that a Carrier + few tempest superlate game will literally be untouchable (not just unkillable, but untouchable). There's no point to be worried because it's literally gone. No warhounds = bio TvP Sigh.... I also worry that adding a few tempests (15range ZZZZ) will make colossus even safer from vikings than they already are. The tempest can slowly pick away at the vikings until they force the engagement, and it's not like protoss needs MORE units to force TvP engagements... they already have such a sick advantage in that lategame. Tempest are 6(!) supply and don't kill vikings very fast. If that really happens, it's a way worse supply sink for P than for T, so your ground force will just overwhelm his. As it is, I don't see much reason to get Tempests in normal PvT comps, it might become standard in PvP (no more war of the worlds) and in PvZ (against brood lord comps). It looks like a very, very good change imo. I could see Tempest and Carriers both finding their place.
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This is HUGE, Protoss was actually extremely underpowered and now it's absolutely great, especially the new Oracle spell, now PvZ is gonna be way more entertaining (srsly I was sick of the constant chain-fungal into win)
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I'm using carriers in all of my PvZ's, I like that change
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Dustin Browder:
We thought 1 completely terrible T3 air unit for Protoss wasn't enough, so we doubled the amount. Now the mighty Protoss race has 2 completely terrible T3 air units!!!
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i still have one question: wasn't tempest suppose to do splash damage?
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I'm gonna guess that half toe Terrans crying about the warhound aren't even in the beta....
...and those who are...can I have your beta key?
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On September 15 2012 04:24 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 04:19 SolidMoose wrote:On September 15 2012 04:18 spbelky wrote: I'll be honest, I'm really worried about Mech in TvP now. As it stands... Carrier is the counter to Terran mech, except for when the Terran gets 3/3 updgrades and sufficient Thors to melt the interceptors/tank damage, or enough BC's to yamato the Carriers. Both Thors and BCs are Massive. I'm just worried that a Carrier + few tempest superlate game will literally be untouchable (not just unkillable, but untouchable). There's no point to be worried because it's literally gone. No warhounds = bio TvP What is with this fucking whine. It is the first of what will probably be many big balance patches, if you want to play mech in TvP make sure that Blizzard know that, and if you have a HotS account play the hell out of it and work out what, if anything, is lacking in TvP and help them tweak it till it's viable. And this guy thinks terran suuuucks !  Its beta guys, i can't believe people are actually balance whining to the degree where they're considering dropping the game.
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On September 15 2012 04:22 Serp87 wrote: protoss QQ paid off and now terran cant go mech vs toss (and also making mech vs zerg weaker) HOTS became alot less exicting for me :/
Can't go mech? Battle Hellions will still tear shit up and with widow mines easier to produce you might find them very fucking useful. At least try the changes before bashing them -.-
The warhound was a terrible fucking unit, insanely OP, A move unit that you could mass. Say what you want about the collosi if you make just Collosi you will die, if you make just warhounds you LOL your way to victory...
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Looks like this is going to be a long beta... Blizzard is still throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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On September 15 2012 04:26 clwzim wrote: i still have one question: wasn't tempest suppose to do splash damage?
They took it away when they added Phoenix Range
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Wait, I'm confused. Will phase shield protect from EMP damage? I know it doesn't remove it...
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Great.. now Protoss can finally go back to never building carriers by CHOICE! Well done..
Also i dont really get how everybody and their mothers cried about the warhound beeing a 1a unit.. so how much micro do you need for carriers?
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On September 15 2012 04:22 Serp87 wrote: protoss QQ paid off and now terran cant go mech vs toss (and also making mech vs zerg weaker) HOTS became alot less exicting for me :/
Just wait a little. Apparently Blizzard isn't as ignorant as people thought. They will buff the mine a lot throughout the beta and I'm pretty sure they will bring either the Warhound with a complete redesign or another unit to complement mechplay.
Btw it was a collective QQ...even terrans and zergs took part, because the Warhound sucked so hard.
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On September 15 2012 04:28 Hier wrote: Looks like this is going to be a long beta... Blizzard is still throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks. I hope it's long. But I also hope it goes public soon... Or at least a lot more invites.
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On September 15 2012 04:29 spbelky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 04:28 Hier wrote: Looks like this is going to be a long beta... Blizzard is still throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks. I hope it's long. But I also hope it goes public soon... Or at least a lot more invites. I'm pretty sure they said that its never going fully public, just a very widespread closed beta.
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