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Code
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada634 Posts
September 14 2012 19:31 GMT
#501
On September 15 2012 04:24 Leetley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 04:19 Louis8k8 wrote:
I think the biggest "??" was the Reaper buff. I have no comments. It's just interesting that Blizzard thought of giving it such an ability.

They want the unit to be actually used. Now we need the widow mines to be fixed, because they still suck and some solid mech unit that isn't warhound.

Give the mines jetpacks like the Reaper to jump up cliffs! haha
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
September 14 2012 19:31 GMT
#502
Really interesting changes I'm glad they are keeping active with updating things.
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lol_Robot
Profile Joined November 2011
United States66 Posts
September 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#503
I think the Oracle's new ability shield will be part of a move towards nerfing Vortex, which I'm fine with. I'm not in the beta, but as far as I know Vortex is unchanged from WoL.

Warhound: go back to the original concept, give it some AA missiles, maybe bonus to light (for zealots) and call it a day.

Lots of trolls and QQers in here complaining about Terran losing the Warhound, I don't understand how they'd want that unit to endure in its current state. It will be back, but the current iteration is just silly. I play Zerg and Terran, and no way do I want to have the Warhound remain as it is, any more than I want a 1 supply Roach.

I am upset about the other Terran nerfs, BC damage, Raven missile, etc. I agree that the Oracle ability will really re-shape the PvZ lategame, but that can only be a good thing; with Vipers, Swarm Hosts, and fast Hydras in the mix, this is going to be a matchup that should go in some radical new directions.

bzzzzzt. CTL: Team Guns 'n' Roaches
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
September 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#504
Carrier is back!*Tears. Someone should make a video of a floating carrier with the Chrono Trigger theme.
Getting too old for this..
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
September 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#505
Yeah! GTFO, Warhound!

Now to make the seige tank useful in TvP...
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
September 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#506
On September 15 2012 04:30 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 04:29 spbelky wrote:
On September 15 2012 04:28 Hier wrote:
Looks like this is going to be a long beta... Blizzard is still throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks.

I hope it's long. But I also hope it goes public soon... Or at least a lot more invites.

I'm pretty sure they said that its never going fully public, just a very widespread closed beta.

T.T If I don't get into the beta I'm going to cry... Played in every season so far and I have bought every Blizzard game (Except any WoW expansions I only have the original) I want a fucking Beta key Blizzard!!!!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:32:50
September 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#507
On September 15 2012 04:21 spbelky wrote:
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On September 15 2012 04:19 SolidMoose wrote:
On September 15 2012 04:18 spbelky wrote:
I'll be honest, I'm really worried about Mech in TvP now. As it stands... Carrier is the counter to Terran mech, except for when the Terran gets 3/3 updgrades and sufficient Thors to melt the interceptors/tank damage, or enough BC's to yamato the Carriers. Both Thors and BCs are Massive. I'm just worried that a Carrier + few tempest superlate game will literally be untouchable (not just unkillable, but untouchable).


There's no point to be worried because it's literally gone. No warhounds = bio TvP


Sigh.... I also worry that adding a few tempests (15range ZZZZ) will make colossus even safer from vikings than they already are. The tempest can slowly pick away at the vikings until they force the engagement, and it's not like protoss needs MORE units to force TvP engagements... they already have such a sick advantage in that lategame.

In WoL, the terran counter to colossi is vikings. The protoss counter to vikings is to not make colossi. That's a pretty stupid relationship, don't you think?

Also, tempests are not better against vikings than they were in the last patch. They are in fact worse, since they lost a third of their range. And vikings still do bonus damage against them.
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
September 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#508
On September 15 2012 04:30 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 04:29 spbelky wrote:
On September 15 2012 04:28 Hier wrote:
Looks like this is going to be a long beta... Blizzard is still throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks.

I hope it's long. But I also hope it goes public soon... Or at least a lot more invites.

I'm pretty sure they said that its never going fully public, just a very widespread closed beta.
Yeah, they'll never make it open beta. Who would be playing WoL if HotS beta was open to all!?
Behavior is a function of its consequences.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
September 14 2012 19:33 GMT
#509
Man Blizzard does listen!!!

Add some other WELL THOUGHT OUT mech unit to terran and things will be awesome! :D
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
September 14 2012 19:34 GMT
#510
Im happy there are drastic changes, sounds great.
no dude, the question
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 14 2012 19:35 GMT
#511
The Carrier has returned!?!??! Yes! Best patch ever.
liftlift > tsm
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
September 14 2012 19:35 GMT
#512
Not just add Science Vessel's from scbw and i will preorder :DDD
are you evolving?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
September 14 2012 19:35 GMT
#513
phase shield was grubbys idea , smart guy
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
September 14 2012 19:35 GMT
#514
This is the best thing to happen (in terms of patches) in sc history
Martyrc
Profile Joined May 2012
217 Posts
September 14 2012 19:35 GMT
#515
Bye terran mech, was good to see you for a while
¨First in, last out.¨
BanditX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States78 Posts
September 14 2012 19:37 GMT
#516
Can we remove colosus to? And thors? And BCs, Roachs, Broodlords, Corruptors, Zealots, Voidrays, and every other A move unit in the game.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
September 14 2012 19:37 GMT
#517
Carrier is back+ Warhound is gone = Profit !
Finally Protoss have a way to avoid chain fungles. Also I don't think that TvP mech is dead because there is no warhounds. It's not a-move anymore yes, but it's not dead. Battle hellions and mines are still pretty good buffer for the tanks.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:38:11
September 14 2012 19:37 GMT
#518
what a cool patch indeed. however, after reading it all i just thought: will this make protoss imba? so many buffs...

just a patch though, let's see how it plays out.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:38:27
September 14 2012 19:37 GMT
#519
question about phase shield.

does it only _prevent_ the spells to affect the units (after it's casted, and actually act _like a shield) or will it semi function like the medic in BW's restoration as well to cure the units after they have it
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 14 2012 19:38 GMT
#520
On September 15 2012 04:35 ROOTT1 wrote:
phase shield was grubbys idea , smart guy

ha, thats so fucking awesome that a pro spell got into the game. hopefully everytime he uses it he gets a gigantic banana grin on his face, as he's able to micro stalkers once again!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
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