EPTStrength of AI compared to BNET - Page 4
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regulator_mk
United States127 Posts
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KaRath_
Australia245 Posts
I still lost that game, because my micro was beaten by his micro. D: | ||
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
I was working on beating the Insane AI using a Spanishiwa build on Crossfire, which I managed to do after two or three times. If you survive the initial and second attack, you basically won. Denying expo's helps a lot too! Hardest part of playing an AI is not abusing it, not in the sense of harass and keep him in his base, but in the sense of not overactively preparing for the 1-base push you know is coming. | ||
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Sausafeg
United Kingdom54 Posts
 I ended up losing when the ai built thors, I had never seen them before.Anyway, now I'm a diamond protoss and can beat very hards, I have yet to beat an insane though. | ||
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Giwoon
Korea (South)431 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:56 TheAwesomeTemplar wrote: Difficulties are very easy, easy, medium, hard, very hard, and insane. Very easy: rank 85 bronze Easy: rank 50 bronze Medium: rank 30 bronze Hard: rank 30 silver Very hard: rank 10 silver Insane: rank 5 gold AHHHHH are you kidding me about the insane part? im in mid-masters and i cant beat insane ): its so hard because they have double your mineral income or something and they have maphax too its bullshit it should be something like very easy: CombatEX easy: bronze medium: high bronze hard: silver very hard: gold/plat insane: PillaGe | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On May 17 2011 01:04 Giwoon wrote: AHHHHH are you kidding me about the insane part? im in mid-masters and i cant beat insane ): its so hard because they have double your mineral income or something and they have maphax too its bullshit it should be something like very easy: CombatEX easy: bronze medium: high bronze hard: silver very hard: gold/plat insane: PillaGe I said what I did for insane for 2 reasons: a. I can almost beat it; I'm mid gold. B. It's very vulnerable to cheese | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On May 16 2011 17:49 regulator_mk wrote: You can't really equate it to people's levels because the computer has different strengths and weaknesses. The computer never cheeses you, but hard probably has better macro than everyone in gold, and very hard has better macro than most if not all people in platinum. That is such a lie. Hard builds a maximum of 20 workers to mine and expands verrrrry slowwwwwllllyyyyy. I have yet to see a gold league player with worse macro, except for someone who proxy gated and cannon rushed simultaniously and made less than 15 probes. As for very hard, I haven't played it and analyzed it's macro yet, but I'm guessing that mine is still better (I'm gold league) | ||
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CryMore
United States497 Posts
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
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SnowyPsilocybin
United Kingdom265 Posts
Very occasionally, they will DT rush or go early pool. When ive lost against that a few times i cant help but laugh. Dont think i've ever seeen the terran do a cheese though | ||
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shaNk
Canada124 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On May 17 2011 19:31 SnowyPsilocybin wrote: To those who say the AI dont cheese, Very occasionally, they will DT rush or go early pool. When ive lost against that a few times i cant help but laugh. Dont think i've ever seeen the terran do a cheese though It does in brood war, which I found out by playing a PvP  Does it in sc2?? and if it does, what difficultly? Btw, on insane/very hard Terran sometimes goes fast reaper harass vs a Zerg. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On May 15 2011 04:19 EndOfTime88 wrote: I believe these league comparisons are highly inaccurate especially since you'll be on EU ladder. Like I said very hard AI stomping only got me top 2 bronze placement, mind you I am zerg. Everything else stated though is true. You will have fun. That's because the computer uses one base pushes only. As zerg, to beat the computer you need to go very heavy on defense early. Once you beat the first push, you've already won. Against players, that doesn't work at all, especially as a zerg player. I would not recommend zerg players to train vs computer AI and then expect it to work against players, as zerg against players you need to scout opponents and be as greedy as possible. Against very hard computer, it's impossible to be greedy unless you're doing something like spanishiwa. Edit: In fact, even if you do spanishiwa, you have to scout better than against platinum players, I've been broken several times by very hard protoss going really early immortal push when I try playing with less than 3 spines blind. Never had a player do a push like that. | ||
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SnowyPsilocybin
United Kingdom265 Posts
On May 17 2011 20:03 TheAwesomeTemplar wrote: It does in brood war, which I found out by playing a PvP Does it in sc2?? and if it does, what difficultly? Btw, on insane/very hard Terran sometimes goes fast reaper harass vs a Zerg. On Very Hard difficulty, and you just reminded of the reapers they occasionally use :p | ||
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reapsen
Germany559 Posts
Furthermore the AI doesn't cheese, doesn't 4gate, doesn't cannonrush, no 2rax-allin, no dt-rush.. nothing what occurs on a daily basis on the ladder. So any new player who reads this: If you practice against the AI, that's fine. You can work on your macro and stuff. But don't ever draw any connection to ladder rankings, because on the ladder you'll get confronted with stuff, no AI would ever to do you. Don't think: "hey, i beat very hard AI in every game, i should be at least platinum", because thats just bullshit in my opinion. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On May 17 2011 22:16 reapsen wrote: There is no way any comparison between AI Levels and Ladder Rankings is possible. The AI does stuff that no sane human would ever do, like for example pulling their whole 200/200 Army back all the way while they are just about to kill you if they have 3 Mutas in their mineralline. Or going total apeshit when a building is placed inside their base. Furthermore the AI doesn't cheese, doesn't 4gate, doesn't cannonrush, no 2rax-allin, no dt-rush.. nothing what occurs on a daily basis on the ladder. So any new player who reads this: If you practice against the AI, that's fine. You can work on your macro and stuff. But don't ever draw any connection to ladder rankings, because on the ladder you'll get confronted with stuff, no AI would ever to do you. Don't think: "hey, i beat very hard AI in every game, i should be at least platinum", because thats just bullshit in my opinion. Your description of teh computer is me when sc2 came out o.O | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
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