EPTStrength of AI compared to BNET - Page 3
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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Thanathology
Belgium7 Posts
As long as you can hold the first push without sacrificing your economy too much, you're in AMAZING shape for the rest of the game. Except against insane (brutal) AI. The only way to beat insane AI is to abuse his stupiditty. Whether through cheese, unit placement, forcefields, mass tanks, planetairy fortresses, ... Where you will be placed in on the ladder will depend on yourself. Good decision making and mechanics will do a LOT. Being capable to defeat a certain difficulty of AI doesn't mean a thing. Mechanics is something you can train against an AI and watching vods also helps your decision making a ton. Those two are the reason i got placed into diamond. All i did was watch VODs (and i still do) and play AI. I stopped playing ladder when i started watching lots of VODs and i was in bronze back then. I started playing again right before the end of season 1 and i got placed in diamond for season 2. | ||
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-Sage
Norway16 Posts
While the bot does have varying diffecoulties you can beat all of these with some practice, because you learn to beat it. You will never "beat" battlenet, you will never beat every single player opposing you, hell even top pros cant jump on the ladder and expect to win every game because of the "Human" factor. | ||
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Flight
Brazil163 Posts
If you played against AI on the ladder, thinking it was a human player, it would be close to impossible to defeat the Insane, therefore it would go GM quickly. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On May 16 2011 01:08 Sina92 wrote: Nobody can beat an insane bot in a long fair macro game, I'd say its Grandmaster+. Turtling and playing defensive isn't fair? | ||
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AntiSleep
Canada91 Posts
he may have not heard the term turtling terran? :/ | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
Its akin to "goldfishing" in Trading Card Games. The concept is "could you beat a goldfish in a bow" The goldfish has no strategy, tactics or micro--he should be easy to defeat. If your strategy has a hard time against the goldfish, try another strategy, etc... The AI will do a 1base push against you. Not really a big push, nor a really powerful one. Just big enough so if you forget to defend yourself you die. The easier the AI the more forgiving the goldfish. Insane AI is when the goldfish pushes the bowl to its side and hopes you don't notice the water seeping into your laptop/cards. You have to play "special" against it. Casual => Very Hard is all you need. | ||
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RTudoRR
Romania216 Posts
On May 15 2011 03:48 Chocobo wrote: You should absolutely buy SC2, it's so more much fun than you realize, and the single player missions are very entertaining and help you learn the basics at the same time. The Blizzard AI is very well designed and is actually better than a lot of players. Also, the online ladder gameplay is extremely well designed... it detects your skill level and only matches you with players with similar skill levels. If you're still learning, you'll only play other beginners and you'll still be able to win quite a few games. Once you start to get better, it will see that you're winning a lot and promote you to the next higher league, where your opponents will be a little bit stronger. I think the previous poster's league comparisons are inaccurate. Here's how I see it: Very Easy - no one is this bad, my grandma could beat this on her first time playing Easy - low bronze league Medium - mid bronze league Hard - high silver league Very Hard - high gold league, possibly platinum Insane - this AI cheats by getting extra income. can only be beaten by exploiting early game AI weaknesses, would otherwise be in grandmaster league You will have a LOT of fun if you buy this game, and with a little bit of practice you'll find that you'll be able to produce a lot more units (probably almost double what you're currently making) once you have the early game a little more figured out. Hint: make a LOT of workers to get a strong income, then focus on making as many production buildings as it takes to spend all of that money. Unspent money is your enemy. Learn to mass a lot of units first, then move on to specific strategies. I always beat insane Ai's....i'm high master :-) | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
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shoop
United Kingdom228 Posts
Also, the AI makes consistent micro mistakes that you can learn to exploit and gain a larger and larger edge. Insane AI cheats, making it hard to beat without exploiting the above weaknesses, also you need to learn completely different timings compared to usual games. | ||
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galenkan
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
So, some people CAN lose, but not many. | ||
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
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OhYess
Canada41 Posts
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oZe
Sweden492 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On May 15 2011 06:17 Cloud9157 wrote: Doesn't it map hack though, and pretty much auto counter your unit comp? The answer is simple, build an uncounterable unit composition. | ||
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ETisME
12621 Posts
If you are like me, using zerg and want to do a fast expand in all the maps. Since AI always goes for one base timing attack, I can now handle early pressure after I fast expanded easier on ladder | ||
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