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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On October 26 2010 18:01 annYeong(o11) wrote:So the 64,000 dollar question is why. Why go chasing across the galaxy looking for an outside chance at saving the girl he knew all of 3 weeks? Sometimes you know a girl for just 3 hours and still would travel the galaxy to get to her again.Raynor needs to look at her for 3 seconds to get piggish imaginations. In most stories there are not the girls in which you fell in love, there is the girl the hero gets a crush on. | ||
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FakeDouble
Australia676 Posts
On November 02 2010 17:18 FinestHour wrote: I'm just glad blizzard spent all these years perfecting the multiplayer and battlenet experience isntead of developing a good storyline oh wait Hahaha! This. XD But really, constantly balancing multiplayer is what blizzard does best. You don't really play SC2 for the storyline, there's much better games for that. Single player is a nice bonus which ended up taking way too long imo. Also, don't mind the Raynor-Kerrigan ret-con, as long as, you know, things fit in okay. As long as they don't outright contradict each other, which is not what's going on here. | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
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Billy_
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Conrose
437 Posts
Now that establishes somewhat the romantic relationship between the two, it still only came to playful flirting between the two until the infestation occurred. The dreams she projected into Raynor's mind probably helped to further both their feelings... that even though it was Infested Kerrigan's sadistic to torture those who would be her victims, it may have had an effect on the little bit of her humanity that had remained intact by the Overmind, while the dreams effect on Raynor gave him a better understanding of exactly what it was he truly lost that day on Tarsonis, that visions of what Kerrigan could have been to him gave him a new lens through which to look on what she had already meant to him. Now in Starcraft II, the reasoning for going so far to save her is really in connection to the prophecy missions, while taking the fight to Kerrigan directly is more in line with trying to save the sector from Kerrigan's wrath. He was forced to stop her from destroying the sector and avoid killing her knowing what the future held if they did. Remember, when Zeratul first told them that Kerrigan must live, Raynor was infuriated hearing it coming from perhaps the only person in the sector who had as much if not more reason to want to see the Queen of Blades dead than Raynor himself. Raynor is the kind of guy who always feels responsible for things he may have had some hand in. 4 particular things continue to haunt him. The death of his son in the ghost program and the subsequent suicide of his wife, Mengsk's rise to power and Kerrigan's infestation. | ||
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makotoisle
United States29 Posts
I was always under the impression that Jimmy just felt guilty; he thought he was too weak to save her from being infested or that he played a role by helping Mengsk along so that she ended up getting infested. And thus, he feels guilty for all of her murders and tyranny. If you helped someone into power, even inadvertently, and then they went crazy and killed everyone, wouldn't you you kind of feel the weight of the deaths on your own hands? And wouldn't you do whatever you could to "fix" their crazyness and keep them from killing more people? | ||
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Triky
Peru99 Posts
because of two things: He is in love .(yeah kinda quick but they liked since their first mission together) He feels guilty for what happend to kerrigan Zeratul told him to do save her. FOR ZERATUUUL! | ||
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
On November 02 2010 17:18 FinestHour wrote: I'm just glad blizzard spent all these years perfecting the multiplayer and battlenet experience isntead of developing a good storyline oh wait ahah, you said it best brother but yea, we waited 9 years on a cliffhanger + Show Spoiler + and it hasnt been mentioned at all+ Show Spoiler + and they gave us another cliffhanger this is bullshit | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
On October 26 2010 23:25 psychopat wrote: Jim Raynor has a bladder of steel, he hasn't been going to the bathroom in like 5 years. Talk about job devotion.I'm amazed that everyone always assumes that everything that happens is always shown on screen. You really don't think they were hooking up on the Hyperion between missions and such? The obvious reason is that the plot has plotholes, all media has, the point about a lack of plot holes is that it becomes realistic, if you want realism, look out of your window, sick graphics too. The real reason is that it has its charms, and I kind of like this, the 'tragic villain', she's not truly evil, evil was forced upon her, and the constant hinting that there is something human left in her. I like it. Together with the tragic hero, a drunk bittered man who doesn't even know himself anymore if he's out for justice and freedom, or simply revenge. | ||
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Naduk
Australia1 Post
blizzard didn't have the resources to tell the story they desired to back then there is only so much you can fit on a CD not to mention you only play the action sequences in the game (sc1) never do you experience the day to day running of the battle fleet where you spent a few months in space doing nothing while preparing/traveling to the next battle site there is plenty of time for Jim and kerrigan to develop an off scene romance just because nobody ever said "i love you" out loud or you didn't see the sex scene doesn't mean it didn't happen in sc2 story bliz have just come out and said, yeah things did happen with them behind the scenes you don't need to know all the details because its private to them, you just need to know they had feelings for each other im sure they got it on a few times after all Raynor was plenty pissed when Kerrigan was abandoned he vowed to destroy her believing her lost but was confused by her actions (letting him live more than once) but then Zeratul shows up telling him he has to save her right after he finnaly decides killing her is the right thing to do, then he is back to his orignal torment, how do you justify saving a mega-mass murderer | ||
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megagoten
318 Posts
On November 03 2010 07:56 Mobius wrote: ahah, you said it best brother but yea, we waited 9 years on a cliffhanger + Show Spoiler + and it hasnt been mentioned at all+ Show Spoiler + and they gave us another cliffhanger this is bullshit http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define cliffhanger hi, the end of WoL is not a cliffhanger On November 02 2010 17:18 FinestHour wrote: I'm just glad blizzard spent all these years perfecting the multiplayer and battlenet experience isntead of developing a good storyline oh wait re-purposing those programmers and such into story writer is an excellent idea, because those guys are totally qualified for it | ||
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
On November 03 2010 11:40 megagoten wrote: That's a little too easily thought. Talent is for sale, it's more an issue of money. They only have X amounts of money to spend on it. And they can choose to use that money on story-writers or programmers.re-purposing those programmers and such into story writer is an excellent idea, because those guys are totally qualified for it In the end, faults in StarCraft II's multiplayer and Battle.net are not really the issue of programmers as much as just 'ideas'. If you give programmers an idea to execute they will do it. | ||
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Billy_
461 Posts
On November 03 2010 11:40 megagoten wrote: http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define cliffhanger hi, the end of WoL is not a cliffhanger re-purposing those programmers and such into story writer is an excellent idea, because those guys are totally qualified for it The writer for Wings wrote for Bioware and some other game. Chris invented Starcraft and is still directing the series. I think that means they have some qualifications. | ||
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Bezier123
Poland50 Posts
Ok, what is the contradiction to the whole saviour Raynor is the fact that he literally promised, that he will be the person that kills her one day. Buut... She was hot. And not just your avarage-highschool-girlfriend hot, but like HOT. He saw her and thought things that made her slap him. I mean what did he think, that he made a trained ghost (trained to control her mind to a degree you can't imagine) angry. And I think that is the bottom line of all of this. She was hot and he had this hero in him. I mean, he started a rebellion for chissakes. Would any of you start a rebbelion on your own, make people follow you. Noo, I don't think so. This guy has a strong hunger for being viwed as the hero, for doing all the right things. He sees oppressed terrans and goes into rebellion, ecause he's just not the guy who would sit back. The worse part is, that people trust him, but noone has the same courage, except meybe his second in command, whatshisname. Other people just don't have it, they just folow orders, thaey don't have the guts or the imagination of Jim Raynor. And Jim - well, he once knew someone with just the imagination, and it was Sarah. She saw the world exactly as he sees it and also wasn't going to sit back. They got along and that was like uber-fantastic, because people like raynor rarely find another person like themselves. So yeah, he was really happy for these three weeks - he met a really hot girl who bielieved in the same stupid things he does. How much better can it get. He wants to do something about infested kerrigan, because it's just aint right for her story to end like this. The guy's a mess, filled with anger, and the only solution his triggerhappy mind can think of is to take revenge on the obviously guilty Mengsk. Which he does. He also wants to do something about Kerrigan's situation. Now, she's been the evil bitch of the universe, he needs to put an end to that, but living the memories of the woman that understood him so well (and was so incredibly hot) he just hesitates. And that makes him angry too, because he's not really used to hesitating. So when Arthas Menghsk pops in with the plan to actually save Kerrigan, well - doesn;t it all click in? The hotheaded raynor with the hunger to set all the things right sees the perfect chance. He can oppose Mengsk, end the rule of the Queen of Blades and maybe get his happiness back, return to the point where it's all jolly. Only, as far as I know, panta rei - nothing will be like in the old days. | ||
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Kitani
United States44 Posts
On October 31 2010 18:34 xarthaz wrote: Kerrigan's got dat azz. Its that simple. ![[image loading]](http://i54.tinypic.com/13zwxe.png) This. Also, our protoss pal Zeratul kinda told us she can't die, or you know, everyone dies. That's what the whole Prophecy mission set was for. | ||
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bobucles
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TSM
Great Britain584 Posts
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ZeNd0kUn
United States331 Posts
Note : this isn't a blockbuster movie .. it's a damn strategy game. Be thankful that there's so much of a story in it. Don't go Rotten Tomatoes on a RTS game. Yeah maybe when all strategy RTS games evolve into competing storylines .. we should. But we aren't there yet. That being said, I think the story is damn fine as it is. Hope Heart of the Swarm doesn't disappoint. | ||
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