EPT[Poll]SC1 vs SC2: Best plot? - Page 2
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atenthirtyone
United States88 Posts
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Qwerty.
United States292 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
SC1 definitely had a more immersed and engaging storyline, but that was because with the briefing room you had long walls of text and characters talking for 5 minutes between missions, which obviously presents an extremely detailed and fast story progression. Then you have SC2 which leans more towards character interaction and exploration to advance the storyline. this obviously will diffuse the information and progression of the story, which makes it feel less vivid / slower / not as memorable. SC1 has more focus on the story, SC2 has more focus on interaction. Both are great | ||
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SneakPeek
Philippines162 Posts
On August 01 2010 06:13 mrkent wrote: SC2 WoL entire story is summed as follows. Zeratul tells Raynor that he needs to save Kerrigan. Raynor saves Kerrigan. Every other character was not essential to the story. In other words, it sucks. Also, how the fuck did Kerrigan get beat by a small army when the UED, Dominion, and Artanis combined could not defeat her in the end of Broodwar? this just shows TvZ is imba!!! need lurkers ^^ | ||
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AbyssArray
Canada26 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:18 SneakPeek wrote: this just shows TvZ is imba!!! need lurkers ^^ Or maybe it's all a trap. | ||
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Blind
United States2529 Posts
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0mar
United States567 Posts
On August 01 2010 10:41 Zato-1 wrote: SC + BW story summarized: + Show Spoiler [Story] + There are three races: Terran, Protoss and Zerg. Terrans are fighting between themselves, Zerg want to devour everything else, Protoss want to stop them. On the Terran side, the Sons of Korhal, led by Arcturus Mengsk, overthrow the Confederacy and establish the Dominion. Later on, the United Earth Directorate overthrows the Dominion. The Protoss kill Zerg Cerebrate Zasz, but lose their homeworld of Aiur. They then flee into the Dark Templar world of Shakuras, which is also being overrun, but they manage to cleanse it of the Zerg. The Zerg take over a few planets and infest the Terran hero, Sarah Kerrigan. The Overmind is destroyed by Tassadar, and Kerrigan takes over the Zerg Swarm. She then proceeds to single-handedly tear through all possible opposition, annihilating the UED in the process and letting Mengsk rebuild his Dominion. There, all the storyline of SC and BW summarized in 11 lines. It really isn't that spectacular. It's not bad, mind you- I enjoyed it. It's just that the narrative in SC2 is incomparably better, because it's fleshed out a lot better. What? SC2 was written by 5th graders for 4th graders. The actual narrative is as follows: 1. Quick breakdown of the mission. 2. Cheesy one-liner. 3. Repeat 1 and 2 until the game is over. The writing also took a huge hit from SC/BW to SC2. It's a goddamn shame that the best line in SC2 is from SC1 (I will see this sector burned to ashes around me etc etc by Mengsk). Finally, all the lore established in SC1 and Brood War got used as toliet paper. All the major revelations in SC2 basically came out of no where (eg Overmind = good?. Tassadar is "alive"?, Kerrigan = key to salvation? Kerrigan cured of infestation). It's all like a bad fan fic. | ||
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alsowikk
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:33 0mar wrote: What? SC2 was written by 5th graders for 4th graders. You know, I was going to write a serious reply, but when I see this, all I read is "Don't feed the troll". | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
STORY wise, meaning the minute to minute personal stuff, sc2 is better. what sc1 did in two minute briefings before missions sc2 filled with a lot of details, optional dialogue and just general atmosphere. actually most of the plot development in WoL took place in the zeratul missions, which i find kinda funny cos they're HUGE plot developments for so few missions. | ||
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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SiegeFlank
United States410 Posts
As for which story is better, I don't think it's fair to compare just yet. While SC and SC2 are both full games, it really does make a big difference when one of the games has its story told from the perspective of all three races. | ||
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Radios
United States61 Posts
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AlecPyron
United States131 Posts
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Sight
United States148 Posts
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Jlad
United States11 Posts
On August 01 2010 11:57 Zato-1 wrote: You know, I was going to write a serious reply, but when I see this, all I read is "Don't feed the troll". It's not a troll post just like yours isn't an argument. The plot deserves this sort of derogation. I don't understand why anyone would be anything short of enraged by the plot in SC2. Seriously, the overmind is a "noble" creature? What kind of hippie crap is that? It's a completely Blizzard thing to do to water down the villains to the point where everyone participating is a misunderstood hero. Orcs, for example, going back to their shaman roots after pillaging every town and murdering every human in sight in Warcraft 1 and 2. Turns out they were just being played as pawns by demonic forces. In their hearts they're all sunshines and daisies. So conflict arises and everyone bands together in an unlikely alliance to overcome the greater threat. Meanwhile the orcs trade in "cool" for totem poles and cow people (that are so wide and hunched that I'm still surprised that it answers the question "How do you **** up a minotaur?"). SC2 seems to be following along similar lines. Both Kerrigan and the overmind were completely crapped on to fulfill some hero complex fantasy that doesn't even make any sense. She regained free will when the overmind was killed, and nothing about her behavior in SC1 said she wanted to be "saved." It is in all honesty sexist crap that pervades video games. Everything female quite obviously needs a hero. "Don't give up Jim." The heightening music when Valerian made the big "reveal" said to me that the writers thought that this was a climactic moment when in fact it was a huge cliff that everyone with two brain cells left saw from a mile away (but most the old school SC1 players hoped wasn't coming). As for the expansions: The zerg expansion will be about Kerrigan still having sway over the swarm (or cleansing the overmind to do that for her...since he's such a noblecreature), and the protoss end will be about everyone banding together to destroy the hybrids. Peace in the universe. Hurrah. So, yeah, what about those 8 billion people you murdered, honey? Does that ever, you know, keep you up at night? Of course, those are only predictions based on modern Blizzard's homogenized bull**** plot devices. Whether or not they're true, what is true is ironically summed up by the best quote in the game: "You can't fix stupid." (Though, yeah, the Mengsk line from SC1 was cool, too). I won't forgive them for completely screwing up the plot of SC1 and one of the best villainesses of all time because of twists and turns that simply will not be there. Anyway, I want to balance this out by saying that even though I'm pissed at the plot I am enjoying the rest of the game. The single player gameplay is great. Missions are varied enough to be entertaining. I believe there to be minor balance issues, but I also believe them to be irrelevant. Blizz was patching SC1 well beyond release and I'm sure that will continue with SC2. Not to mention that any minor balance changes will be upset all over again by the obvious release of new units in (hopefully) both expansions. | ||
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gaizka
United States991 Posts
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