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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
November 02 2009 14:32 GMT
#1841
Failing that, I will just buy an extra small shirt.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 02 2009 15:08 GMT
#1842
where u going?
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
November 02 2009 15:20 GMT
#1843
sigh.. embarrassing fact about me: i can't wear tight shirts because my nipples show.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 02 2009 15:23 GMT
#1844
On November 03 2009 00:20 madnessman wrote:
sigh.. embarrassing fact about me: i can't wear tight shirts because my nipples show.

How is that embarrassing.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 18:18:52
November 02 2009 18:18 GMT
#1845
On November 02 2009 22:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?

[image loading]


Is above what you speak of?

I did pullups today and it felt very good.


Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.

If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?

we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.


Upright rows on the smith machien doesn't mitigate the injury potential...

Don't use smith machine at all.. except possible as a pullup bar or for inverted rows. There's no legit use for it in a training program if you use it based on how it's supposed to function.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 02 2009 19:32 GMT
#1846
Yeah smith machines in general are questionable. I only use them for incline bench press and occasional shoulder presses.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 22:04:20
November 02 2009 22:02 GMT
#1847
On November 03 2009 03:18 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 22:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 02 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?

[image loading]


Is above what you speak of?

I did pullups today and it felt very good.


Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.

If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?

we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.


Upright rows on the smith machien doesn't mitigate the injury potential...

well this is an advice i got from an actual pro. which of course doesn't make it necessarily correct but your opinion is just an opinion as well.

Also your opinion on smith machines is questionable as well. A lot of MMA guys use em in their routines.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
November 02 2009 22:03 GMT
#1848
On November 03 2009 00:08 Sfydjklm wrote:
where u going?


WCG, then check out China for a bit. And a week in Phuket afterwards.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
November 02 2009 22:05 GMT
#1849
On November 03 2009 07:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 03:18 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 22:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 02 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?

[image loading]


Is above what you speak of?

I did pullups today and it felt very good.


Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.

If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?

we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.


Upright rows on the smith machien doesn't mitigate the injury potential...

well this is an advice i got from an actual pro. which of course doesn't make it necessarily correct but your opinion is just an opinion as well.

Also your opinion on smith machines is questionable as well. A lot of MMA guys use em in their routines.


Just because mma people use them, doesn't mean they are right. NEVER use smith machines.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 22:07:59
November 02 2009 22:07 GMT
#1850
On November 03 2009 07:05 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 07:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 03 2009 03:18 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 22:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 02 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?

[image loading]


Is above what you speak of?

I did pullups today and it felt very good.


Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.

If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?

we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.


Upright rows on the smith machien doesn't mitigate the injury potential...

well this is an advice i got from an actual pro. which of course doesn't make it necessarily correct but your opinion is just an opinion as well.

Also your opinion on smith machines is questionable as well. A lot of MMA guys use em in their routines.


Just because mma people use them, doesn't mean they are right. NEVER use smith machines.

so you'd rather i listen to someone on an internet forum then a professional athlete who employs a top notch strength trainer?
No offense, but you see how silly that sounds.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 22:11:27
November 02 2009 22:10 GMT
#1851
As far as today went there's good news and bad news.
I lifted 145x5 on the bench which is 40 pounds less than before summer hiatus.
The problem is in my wrists, they are failing. I attribute this to a more intense schedule as well as summer break where i didnt work out regularly. Any advice on that is welcome k thx.
The good news- i actually weighted myself after a 3 hour workout, and i weighted about 184 dehydrated. Which means that i've gained at least 14 pounds in 2 months, which makes me happy.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
November 02 2009 22:12 GMT
#1852
On November 03 2009 07:07 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 07:05 AoN.DimSum wrote:
On November 03 2009 07:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 03 2009 03:18 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 22:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 02 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?

[image loading]


Is above what you speak of?

I did pullups today and it felt very good.


Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.

If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?

we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.


Upright rows on the smith machien doesn't mitigate the injury potential...

well this is an advice i got from an actual pro. which of course doesn't make it necessarily correct but your opinion is just an opinion as well.

Also your opinion on smith machines is questionable as well. A lot of MMA guys use em in their routines.


Just because mma people use them, doesn't mean they are right. NEVER use smith machines.

so you'd rather i listen to someone on an internet forum then a professional athlete who employs a top notch strength trainer?
No offense, but you see how silly that sounds.


what? I listen to my coach and fellow oly lifters i work out with. I agree what eshlow says because it always makes sense.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
November 02 2009 22:28 GMT
#1853
On November 03 2009 07:07 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 07:05 AoN.DimSum wrote:
On November 03 2009 07:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 03 2009 03:18 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 22:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 02 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?

[image loading]


Is above what you speak of?

I did pullups today and it felt very good.


Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.

If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?

we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.


Upright rows on the smith machien doesn't mitigate the injury potential...

well this is an advice i got from an actual pro. which of course doesn't make it necessarily correct but your opinion is just an opinion as well.

Also your opinion on smith machines is questionable as well. A lot of MMA guys use em in their routines.


Just because mma people use them, doesn't mean they are right. NEVER use smith machines.

so you'd rather i listen to someone on an internet forum then a professional athlete who employs a top notch strength trainer?
No offense, but you see how silly that sounds.

Maybe you should use your head instead of blindly following someone's advice, no matter who it is.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 02 2009 23:17 GMT
#1854
On November 03 2009 07:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 03:18 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 22:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 02 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote:
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote:
eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?

[image loading]


Is above what you speak of?

I did pullups today and it felt very good.


Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.

If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?

we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.


Upright rows on the smith machien doesn't mitigate the injury potential...

well this is an advice i got from an actual pro. which of course doesn't make it necessarily correct but your opinion is just an opinion as well.

Also your opinion on smith machines is questionable as well. A lot of MMA guys use em in their routines.


Well, I personally don't care if you use the smith machine against my recommendation. Nor do I really care if MMA guys do either.

But I do know that the majority of people in any sport don't use smith machines for their barbell strength and conditioning work. If that's the case, why would that be?

However, saying that a smith machine does reduce risk of injury on upright rows is just flat out wrong. No matter who says it.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 02 2009 23:20 GMT
#1855
Im in a ketogenic state at the moment - whats the best way to maintain my muscle mass?

Im am still doing gym sessions 4 days a week and getting 180grams of protein a day. So far, my chest has decreased by about 1cm, and my biceps by 1/2cm; can I attribute this to fat loss in those regions?

I have lost much more off my stomach and thighs, so I assume its all just fat loss...the gym sessions I have done since going ketogenic have been just as difficult, but not more so, than before the dietary change.
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 02 2009 23:25 GMT
#1856
On November 03 2009 08:20 jfazz wrote:
Im in a ketogenic state at the moment - whats the best way to maintain my muscle mass?

Im am still doing gym sessions 4 days a week and getting 180grams of protein a day. So far, my chest has decreased by about 1cm, and my biceps by 1/2cm; can I attribute this to fat loss in those regions?

I have lost much more off my stomach and thighs, so I assume its all just fat loss...the gym sessions I have done since going ketogenic have been just as difficult, but not more so, than before the dietary change.

Strength training... heavy weights low reps.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 02 2009 23:35 GMT
#1857
Thanks eshlow. Im up to benching my body weight as a normal rep now, thanks to your guidance months ago to increase my protein intake
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 03 2009 00:09 GMT
#1858
High protein intake, heavy weights with low reps, good amount of healthy fats; omega 3, avocados etc. Follow this until ripped

Oh and don't eat too little either.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 03 2009 00:13 GMT
#1859
On November 03 2009 09:09 Foucault wrote:
High protein intake, heavy weights with low reps, good amount of healthy fats; omega 3, avocados etc. Follow this until ripped

Oh and don't eat too little either.


Yeah, eating too little is probably the biggest mistake people make.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
November 03 2009 04:27 GMT
#1860
Oh man, I used a smith machine all through high school...

so if i could bench 200 pounds on a smith machine, how much could i bench free weight?

I havent worked out a while, so what would be the best way to get warmed up again(get back to where I was in high school?)? using heavy weights for low reps than increasing reps, or slightly lighter weights for more reps and slowly increasing weight?

Can someone tell me the difference between the effects of planks and crunches and which is better?

Sorry for all these questions and thanks alot to anyone who helps.
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