On November 02 2009 12:52 SoleSteeler wrote: Speaking of neck/shoulder stuff... Ever since I started working out, I've always done military presses. Now, however, as I increase my weight lifted.... I find my neck really hurts the day after. I don't really understand why, either. I do them sitting down (as I've always done). I guess obviously I'm doing something wrong. It seems like such a simple exercise though, so I don't understand what I'm doing incorrectly. Anyone have any ideas on what it could be?
I'd have to see your form.
But you should try to do some neck stretches (traps, levator scap, etc.) and possibly get a massage to loosen up the tissue. That will probably help.
Just got back from the gym - im very proud to say that despite been quite a bit lighter, I still managed the same weights as last week, with good form. Success!
I have gained a lot of weight. A scary amount. I'm 5'9 and 159.8 pounds (or 175cm and 72.5kg). I'm almost overweight now! My BMI is 23.6 which is on the higher end of the normal weight category. I'm going to start dieting a bit now. It's for my abdominal fat to go as well.
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote: eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?
Is above what you speak of?
I did pullups today and it felt very good.
Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.
If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?
I don't do them I was mostly curious. I did however do assisted pull-ups (assisted) yesterday and i liked it. Today I'm sore in a good way, so thanks for recommending it.
I also tried doing alot of exercises using a gym ball and I liked that too. What do you feel about those?
adding picture again since I'm so unsure of proper names for everything (especially in english)
Anybody have any good compound lifts? Calisthenics that I can do at home to work my lats for swimming would be nice too (I don't have equipment at my house)...
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote: eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?
Is above what you speak of?
I did pullups today and it felt very good.
Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.
If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?
I don't do them I was mostly curious. I did however do assisted pull-ups (assisted) yesterday and i liked it. Today I'm sore in a good way, so thanks for recommending it.
I also tried doing alot of exercises using a gym ball and I liked that too. What do you feel about those?
adding picture again since I'm so unsure of proper names for everything (especially in english)
Gym balls are good and all if you're after general stability and strength but you won't get that much stronger after all because there are no weights.
On November 02 2009 20:01 madnessman wrote: Anybody have any good compound lifts? Calisthenics that I can do at home to work my lats for swimming would be nice too (I don't have equipment at my house)...
Um, deadlifts using whatever heavy object. Same with squats.
Also if you want to work your back obviously pullups/pushups. And then you can do a reverse bench press where you drag yourself up the bar instead of pushing it away. If you find a good place to do it at home
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote: eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?
Is above what you speak of?
I did pullups today and it felt very good.
Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.
If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?
This is true. And while we're at it, with this exercise (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/DBLateralRaise.html) don't go higher up than almost horizontal arms.
On November 02 2009 20:10 Patriot.dlk wrote: Foucault I did use weights for some of the exercises and also static training as in just holding your balance is surely worth something?
Naturally I do weights as well the gym ball is just another thing in the mix
Yeah like I said the ball is fine but won't make you much stronger in most exercises. You can't do deadlifts, bench press (with "normal" weights) and alot of other exercises with the ball, so for the core area purposes it's really good; back and abs. Balance training is of course good as well, it all depends on your goals.
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote: eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?
Is above what you speak of?
I did pullups today and it felt very good.
Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.
If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?
This is true. And while we're at it, with this exercise (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/DBLateralRaise.html) don't go higher up than almost horizontal arms.
It is indeed true, push ups are incredibly hard for me because of my shoulders, that´s why I had to get handweights to exercise with.
lol naturally I can't do deadlifts or bench press with it :D I also can't go for a swim with it, or I guess I could but It might be useless since the ball probably floats and minds it own business.
Seriously though I do a normal 3-4 days / week training with weights and 2 days of cardio. I just added the ball to one of my cardio days and I did a lot of various things for 30 minutes or so.
I might start to do abs with the ball together with my current routine or replace something since you recommended it I will definitely try to do strict abs sets next time.
On November 02 2009 20:01 madnessman wrote: Anybody have any good compound lifts? Calisthenics that I can do at home to work my lats for swimming would be nice too (I don't have equipment at my house)... + Show Spoiler +
On November 02 2009 20:35 Patriot.dlk wrote: lol naturally I can't do deadlifts or bench press with it :D I also can't go for a swim with it, or I guess I could but It might be useless since the ball probably floats and minds it own business.
Seriously though I do a normal 3-4 days / week training with weights and 2 days of cardio. I just added the ball to one of my cardio days and I did a lot of various things for 30 minutes or so.
I might start to do abs with the ball together with my current routine or replace something since you recommended it I will definitely try to do strict abs sets next time.
Yeah which is why I described it's quite big limitations when it comes to strength training.
It's very good for core exercises. Also crunches don't do that much for your abs after a little while. You will need to up the weights with different exercises/machines. However it's good to train core stability always, since alot of people have weak abs/lower back.
I'd say it's pretty obvious that one big ball can't replace everything and thus is as limited as most other tools.
Currently I do 5 different exercises for my abs. abs pull downs (Not sure if that's what you would call it), two machines one were you pull down and one where you have support to your chest and you turn side to side. If I have any strength left I do crunches.
I also use
one of those sometimes.
I like to swap exercises rather often though and that's when I thought of the ball.
On November 02 2009 07:32 Patriot.dlk wrote: eshlow out of curiosity what's wrong with upright rows?
Is above what you speak of?
I did pullups today and it felt very good.
Some people have the type of shoulders where they injure very easily with upright rows, and behind the neck pullups, etc. which put the shoulder in a vulnerable position at the edge of its range of motion.
If they feel fine to you I would say do them... but honestly why do them when there's other good exercises that don't potentially have the same injury potential?
we'll that's why you should be doing upright row on a smith machine. that greatly reduces the risk factor.
i also noticed that you do not have rosstraining.com in op? thats best site there is. in fact Ross has replied to all the emails i sent him. should also cover everything about excersizing there is to cover as well. why do i always try to spell exercise that way? sigh.
On November 02 2009 22:06 Sfydjklm wrote: i also noticed that you do not have rosstraining.com in op? thats best site there is. in fact Ross has replied to all the emails i sent him. should also cover everything about excersizing there is to cover as well. why do i always try to spell exercise that way? sigh.
whao. i just discovered that site yesterday when i saw his jump rope video. it's ridiculously awesome.
i did another tabata protocol on the bike machine today. i was planning on doing a bricks workout (bike and run non-stop) to train for my triathlon but (excuse my language here) the tabata on the bike really fucked up my legs. i couldn't even walk to the water fountain and back properly. so i took like a 5 minute break before i did a really short jog.
On November 02 2009 22:06 Sfydjklm wrote: i also noticed that you do not have rosstraining.com in op? thats best site there is. in fact Ross has replied to all the emails i sent him. should also cover everything about excersizing there is to cover as well. why do i always try to spell exercise that way? sigh.
6 More days until I fly out, I'm going to do another 5 days of ketogenic hoping to lose 1kg, I'm going to have to take in a butt load of protein and do some heavy ass squats and deadlifts over the next couple of days making sure I lose no muscle mass.
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