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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-04 22:10:04
May 04 2022 22:09 GMT
#2421
Also how great was abolishing the away goal rule? We had an awesome champions league season!
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
May 05 2022 05:26 GMT
#2422
Was there been some particular reason why the away goal rule was introduced in the first place? Was there some super defensive approach for away games at some point or so?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
May 05 2022 07:37 GMT
#2423
Hahaha Man City hahaha. Real just refuses to die over and over again. This some Deadpool shit right here

On May 05 2022 03:49 WombaT wrote:
Man City win, Real aren’t that good

I’ve said this 5 legs in a row but I’ll be right eventually.

Pep hasn’t picked some bespoke weird formation either, going with what worked well the first leg


That aged wonderfully, again!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
May 05 2022 08:25 GMT
#2424
On May 05 2022 16:37 Harris1st wrote:
Hahaha Man City hahaha. Real just refuses to die over and over again. This some Deadpool shit right here

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2022 03:49 WombaT wrote:
Man City win, Real aren’t that good

I’ve said this 5 legs in a row but I’ll be right eventually.

Pep hasn’t picked some bespoke weird formation either, going with what worked well the first leg


That aged wonderfully, again!



The funny part is also how incredibly weak Man City looked this game compared to the first, wonder if they are strong or Real just played really poorly in the first game.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
May 05 2022 12:13 GMT
#2425
I have got a question: So Pep decided to play Kyle Walker knowing he couldnt do full 90min and other managers usually do that too with vital players returning into the team right away.

Does it make much sense though? Knowing you field a player who cant do the full 90 - yes it brings stability the first 60 or so minutes but then you have someone on the field where the player himself knows he is just 2nd string, no time to get into the game. Because City lost yesterday as they were shocked and were not able to regather their mental fitness (which is understandable). Wouldnt it better to field someone inexperienced the first 60min, if you concede yes you still have time to score goals in return and once you are in a position where you dont want to concede any more goals you bring in the more experienced but not full fit player? Or if the replacement placed a good game, just leave him on the field and dont bring the not fully fit player in at all?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
May 05 2022 12:48 GMT
#2426
On May 05 2022 21:13 sharkie wrote:
I have got a question: So Pep decided to play Kyle Walker knowing he couldnt do full 90min and other managers usually do that too with vital players returning into the team right away.

Does it make much sense though? Knowing you field a player who cant do the full 90 - yes it brings stability the first 60 or so minutes but then you have someone on the field where the player himself knows he is just 2nd string, no time to get into the game. Because City lost yesterday as they were shocked and were not able to regather their mental fitness (which is understandable). Wouldnt it better to field someone inexperienced the first 60min, if you concede yes you still have time to score goals in return and once you are in a position where you dont want to concede any more goals you bring in the more experienced but not full fit player? Or if the replacement placed a good game, just leave him on the field and dont bring the not fully fit player in at all?


Me personally, I would do it the other way around like you said. Then this player can make a difference in the last 30+ mins
But who are we to question Pep's decisions.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
May 05 2022 13:19 GMT
#2427
My guess is he was really worried about Vinicius and used what he thought was his best player for the first 70 mins, hoping he would be tired and less effective by the end. Only Walker is fast enough to keep up with him.
Sucker for nostalgia
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
May 05 2022 14:16 GMT
#2428
On May 05 2022 16:37 Harris1st wrote:
Hahaha Man City hahaha. Real just refuses to die over and over again. This some Deadpool shit right here

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2022 03:49 WombaT wrote:
Man City win, Real aren’t that good

I’ve said this 5 legs in a row but I’ll be right eventually.

Pep hasn’t picked some bespoke weird formation either, going with what worked well the first leg


That aged wonderfully, again!

It’s true though! Liverpool to win the final :p

That said this leg was considerably tighter and even, and Real showed their mentality once again when it counts.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-05 15:39:23
May 05 2022 15:38 GMT
#2429
On May 05 2022 21:48 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2022 21:13 sharkie wrote:
I have got a question: So Pep decided to play Kyle Walker knowing he couldnt do full 90min and other managers usually do that too with vital players returning into the team right away.

Does it make much sense though? Knowing you field a player who cant do the full 90 - yes it brings stability the first 60 or so minutes but then you have someone on the field where the player himself knows he is just 2nd string, no time to get into the game. Because City lost yesterday as they were shocked and were not able to regather their mental fitness (which is understandable). Wouldnt it better to field someone inexperienced the first 60min, if you concede yes you still have time to score goals in return and once you are in a position where you dont want to concede any more goals you bring in the more experienced but not full fit player? Or if the replacement placed a good game, just leave him on the field and dont bring the not fully fit player in at all?


Me personally, I would do it the other way around like you said. Then this player can make a difference in the last 30+ mins
But who are we to question Pep's decisions.


Oh this is definitely not a criticism on Pep from me. I was just wondering how you guys think of this generally because I have seen it so often that not fully fit players return for a game and cant do the full 90 and imo the last 20min are where teams are the most vulnerable anyway and by subbing people off you make it even more vulnerable
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
May 05 2022 15:52 GMT
#2430
On May 06 2022 00:38 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2022 21:48 Harris1st wrote:
On May 05 2022 21:13 sharkie wrote:
I have got a question: So Pep decided to play Kyle Walker knowing he couldnt do full 90min and other managers usually do that too with vital players returning into the team right away.

Does it make much sense though? Knowing you field a player who cant do the full 90 - yes it brings stability the first 60 or so minutes but then you have someone on the field where the player himself knows he is just 2nd string, no time to get into the game. Because City lost yesterday as they were shocked and were not able to regather their mental fitness (which is understandable). Wouldnt it better to field someone inexperienced the first 60min, if you concede yes you still have time to score goals in return and once you are in a position where you dont want to concede any more goals you bring in the more experienced but not full fit player? Or if the replacement placed a good game, just leave him on the field and dont bring the not fully fit player in at all?


Me personally, I would do it the other way around like you said. Then this player can make a difference in the last 30+ mins
But who are we to question Pep's decisions.


Oh this is definitely not a criticism on Pep from me. I was just wondering how you guys think of this generally because I have seen it so often that not fully fit players return for a game and cant do the full 90 and imo the last 20min are where teams are the most vulnerable anyway and by subbing people off you make it even more vulnerable

I think Pep’s ordering was correct. I think it’s more generally the sensible order. In this particular instance the main job was dealing with the threat of Vinicius, who is young and fit but will tire over 120 minutes

If your 50/50 player is up to speed, great. If they’re not you have plenty of time to respond and make that change.

If you start someone else, bring on Walker and he breaks down quickly, or isn’t up to pace then you are running out of time (or subs entirely) to make that change.

I think if it’s a gifted attacking player you have who’s just returning from a niggle, you bring them on later when people are tired and more spaces emerge and hope they can do their magic.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 05 2022 18:18 GMT
#2431
I hope he starts Camavinga over Kroos in the final. Play Casemiro, Modric and Camavinga to put legs alongside Modric and two good tackling midfielders to help stop Liverpool counters. Kroos has been very mediocre in all the games for me and Real look better when he goes off and Camavinga comes on.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
May 05 2022 18:41 GMT
#2432
In situations like this it feels like City is still missing Kompany quite a bit. Having that kind of leadership, determination and grit is so good on those closing minutes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 05 2022 19:08 GMT
#2433
I personally think the only problem they have is they have 0 true finishers at the club. If they get Haaland and keep him fit for 38 games of the season then they will be dominate. Their defense maybe does lack a leader but that can be bailed out due to the ability to out score teams as they create so many chances per game.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
May 05 2022 19:27 GMT
#2434
That is over for West Ham, calling it. How dumb do you have to be to get a red like that baffles me in professional football ^^
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
May 05 2022 19:31 GMT
#2435
On May 06 2022 04:27 gTank wrote:
That is over for West Ham, calling it. How dumb do you have to be to get a red like that baffles me in professional football ^^


Well thats why that player plays for west ham and not a big club?^^
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 05 2022 19:36 GMT
#2436
Same club who have beaten City and Liverpool this season no? xd
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
May 05 2022 19:53 GMT
#2437
West Ham is known, not the best team but not that trash too, 7th place right?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-05 20:04:47
May 05 2022 20:04 GMT
#2438
I would say they are same level as Frankfurt right? Produce some good players, have good spells in the league and in history etc.

But i wouldn't call them bad bad.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 05 2022 20:06 GMT
#2439
I thought West Ham would do better this stage but they've made a lot of bad decisions
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
May 05 2022 20:14 GMT
#2440
On May 06 2022 05:04 Pandemona wrote:
I would say they are same level as Frankfurt right? Produce some good players, have good spells in the league and in history etc.

But i wouldn't call them bad bad.


Yeah same. Frankfurt is 11th only because they dont give a crap about the league when they are in the semi finals of the EL ^^
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
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