2019 - 2020 Football Thread - Page 209

On July 28 2020 19:17 Bacillus wrote:
I was critisizing Benzema when he was roughly 30 and looked out of form and unable to fill in the goalscoring needs after Ronaldo left. He just finished a 37 game, 21 goal season for Real at 32. Out of the top 5 goalscorers in La Liga, 4 were 32 or older.

Surely once Mane is 30, you'll start to worry about recovering from injuries and slumps and all that, but even that'll be a couple of years.

On July 29 2020 01:21 Wombat_NI wrote:

There’s no real hard and fast rule, people’s body’s are different and different players have different miles on the clock, different injury records and hell different motivation levels too.

On July 29 2020 02:47 Pandemona wrote:

players who rely on pace can be subject once they hit that kinda age mark, maybe 30 is a bit farfetched and i was fed false information as the guy is 28 LOL.

Yes there are some exceptions to the 30 year old rule now as many players keep themselves in tip top shape, those being Ronaldo and Lewandowski that spring to mind, oh and Ibrahimovic. However there has been a lot of players post 30 who have dropped off a cliff, Schevchenko, Inzaghi, Anelka (if you classify him as world class), Torres, Suarez, and from a Chelsea perspective players like Ivanovic, Essien disappeared when they hit those ages, all be it Essien was at another club at this time.

There is even an article with stats on the case saying how they are recorded doing way less sprints and dribbles compared to those under 30. Now that isn't to say that they all do, is just when u take a few 1000m of running out of their 90 minutes they put in now, or half a yard of pace they could lose, then they are not the same player.

Still Mane is 28 this irrelevant xD

On July 28 2020 15:20 Greg_J wrote:
Can I introduce Craig Burley to this conversation. The main take away from his rant is that Manchester have not got better at all. They finished on 66 points last season and that was only good enough for 6th. They finished on 66 points this season and that was good enough for 3rd.

So essentially his argument is they haven't got any better at all the teams around them have got worse and they are still 30 odd points of winning the title. Hard to argue with that. In my eyes Yanited have looked a lot better at the end of this season. So maybe they are going in the right direction now. But despite that improvement they didn't even beat last seasons points total you can't really argue they are better than last year.

On July 29 2020 12:15 evilfatsh1t wrote:
pande isnt wrong though. there are players who rely on speed more than others and although there isnt a set age a player over 30 is going to be much less reliable as far as managing your team goes for the long term.
lesser acceleration, lesser top speed, more easily fatigued, more susceptible to muscle injuries, longer recovery and perhaps less performance after recovery.
you add all these things together and you have a player who may be 30,31 or 32 but can suddenly no longer perform at his peak.
its especially worse for the 1 dimensional players that relied on their physical abilities more. whether you would argue that sane for example fits in this category is debatable though

On July 29 2020 15:04 Dante08 wrote:


Yeah agree, United fans should not be happy about finishing with 66 points at all. 66 points wouldn't even get you CL in many past seasons. That being said with the injuries in the first half and the way the team performed post Bruno with all the injured players coming back, it was a massive difference and certainly alot to look forward to next season.

On July 29 2020 14:53 sharkie wrote:
Did you guys know that Southampton finished 3rd in "post-lockdown" Premier league table? thats insane O.O

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/2F18/production/_113665021_bbc-table--62abdbd6-7b82-4373-abc3-12af974c566e.png

On July 29 2020 18:15 evilfatsh1t wrote:

i think the craig burley guy needs to get some perspective.
the points tallies are irrelevant, all that matters are placings on the table. united was like 8th at some point in late dec and ogs was having like the worst season performance out of all managers post fergie.
in comes fernandes and the last 14 games of the epl (all games played after fernandes joined) man utd is ranked 1 in points earned, if im not mistaken also ranked 1 in least goals conceded and ranked 2nd in goals scored (city ranked 1).
the comeback to 3rd and more importantly the actual performances after fernandes joined is what fans are happy about and its hard to argue united are no better than last season when for the last third of the season united had the best results in the league.

On July 29 2020 21:50 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Last games of the season and last chance to get a trophy. Seriously for sure. There's basically no reason not to prioritize because it doesn't collide with anything other than 'next season preparations', but playing EL finals is a better warmup than practice tours around the world anyway.