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Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
May 17 2015 22:56 GMT
#821
I'm 1.74m and 81kg. I just wanna get strong af and hopefully look like I'm strong, while staying under 83kg. Is it advisable that I keep eating like a dog even though I'm over 15%bf? I just want that 4plate squat mane.
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 18 2015 00:02 GMT
#822
On May 18 2015 07:56 Ehzera wrote:
I'm 1.74m and 81kg. I just wanna get strong af and hopefully look like I'm strong, while staying under 83kg. Is it advisable that I keep eating like a dog even though I'm over 15%bf? I just want that 4plate squat mane.


I tought you were going after a junior WR. Keep eating as much as you need, just don't get fat lol.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 18 2015 00:04 GMT
#823
Yes you need to eat to get the 4 plates. Personally I think it's hard to even look like you lift at less than 200 lbs at around 6 foot.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
May 18 2015 00:27 GMT
#824
Alright thanks guys btw Gotunk its a national record not a WR lol
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 01:13:48
May 18 2015 00:45 GMT
#825
On May 18 2015 06:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:05 Najda wrote:
On May 18 2015 03:40 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:54 IgnE wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:13 Osmoses wrote:
Golf season has barely started and alteady I got both golfer's knee and golfer's elbow. Why is my body so crap?


Not taking proper care of it in the offseason?

Re: cutting vs. bulking, like MtlGuitarist, and anyone who isn't already heavier than 200 lbs



It's funny how they talk about getting psyched up for big lifts with loud, fast music when they were younger, but now they like to chill a bit more in their workouts. Same thing happened to me. Used to get super worked up when I was doing powerlifting. Put on the Rosetta Stone album in the back room, splash the chalk everywhere, and get ready to squat. Now I just prefer a chiller gym experience.

How heavy should I be willing to get? I'm really short (5'6", maybe 5'7"), and not particularly lean at the moment at ~160-162 lbs. Should I just try to eat around maintenance and get enough protein each day, or should I actually try to gain weight?

These are my goals to hit by the end of the summer. They'll hopefully be attainable in three months, but who knows.

Squat 210x6 --> 265x6 (projected max of 251 to projected max of 317)
Bench Press 170x6 --> 200x6
Deadlift 300x6 --> 345x6 (projected max of 405)
OHP 115x6 --> 130x6

I have around 14-15 weeks to hit my goals. Deadlift should be pretty attainable if I do 5 lbs per week for as long as possible, same with squats. Bench I'll probably stick to 2.5 lbs per week and hope that I can get to 200x6.


That depends on your goals. If your goal is literally just get as strong as possible then just keep eating. Aesthetic wise, at 5'10 I'd never want to be 200 lbs; my goal is much closer to around 170.


You really understimate the weight of huge legs and back. Tian Tao is 170cm 5'7, 86kg (190 pounds) and doesn't look huge at all. (FWIW I'm kinda same size but I look a lot bigger because of more bodyfat, bigger back/arms and def less legs)

Klokov was 6 foot and 230 pounds when I met him. Thickest guy I've ever seen, he looked like a refrigarator with limps.

You should just lift weights, gain weight staying reasonably lean and find the look that suits you.

That said, at 5 10 and 170 pounds you are just skinny.


By bodybuilding/powerlifting standards, yea 170 lbs 5'10 is skinny, but by normal person standards that's pretty big. Lu Xiaojun is 77kg 1.72m 170 lbs 5'8 so that's only 2 inches shorter than myself, and that's the very upper limit of what I'd want to look like. But yeah, right now my goal is just gaining weight.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
May 18 2015 01:40 GMT
#826
On May 18 2015 09:27 Ehzera wrote:
Alright thanks guys btw Gotunk its a national record not a WR lol


The NR is just the first step to the WR
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 18 2015 02:06 GMT
#827
On May 18 2015 09:45 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:05 Najda wrote:
On May 18 2015 03:40 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:54 IgnE wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:13 Osmoses wrote:
Golf season has barely started and alteady I got both golfer's knee and golfer's elbow. Why is my body so crap?


Not taking proper care of it in the offseason?

Re: cutting vs. bulking, like MtlGuitarist, and anyone who isn't already heavier than 200 lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ2fZR5cQ5Q#t=18m18s

It's funny how they talk about getting psyched up for big lifts with loud, fast music when they were younger, but now they like to chill a bit more in their workouts. Same thing happened to me. Used to get super worked up when I was doing powerlifting. Put on the Rosetta Stone album in the back room, splash the chalk everywhere, and get ready to squat. Now I just prefer a chiller gym experience.

How heavy should I be willing to get? I'm really short (5'6", maybe 5'7"), and not particularly lean at the moment at ~160-162 lbs. Should I just try to eat around maintenance and get enough protein each day, or should I actually try to gain weight?

These are my goals to hit by the end of the summer. They'll hopefully be attainable in three months, but who knows.

Squat 210x6 --> 265x6 (projected max of 251 to projected max of 317)
Bench Press 170x6 --> 200x6
Deadlift 300x6 --> 345x6 (projected max of 405)
OHP 115x6 --> 130x6

I have around 14-15 weeks to hit my goals. Deadlift should be pretty attainable if I do 5 lbs per week for as long as possible, same with squats. Bench I'll probably stick to 2.5 lbs per week and hope that I can get to 200x6.


That depends on your goals. If your goal is literally just get as strong as possible then just keep eating. Aesthetic wise, at 5'10 I'd never want to be 200 lbs; my goal is much closer to around 170.


You really understimate the weight of huge legs and back. Tian Tao is 170cm 5'7, 86kg (190 pounds) and doesn't look huge at all. (FWIW I'm kinda same size but I look a lot bigger because of more bodyfat, bigger back/arms and def less legs)

Klokov was 6 foot and 230 pounds when I met him. Thickest guy I've ever seen, he looked like a refrigarator with limps.

You should just lift weights, gain weight staying reasonably lean and find the look that suits you.

That said, at 5 10 and 170 pounds you are just skinny.


By bodybuilding/powerlifting standards, yea 170 lbs 5'10 is skinny, but by normal person standards that's pretty big. Lu Xiaojun is 77kg 1.72m 170 lbs 5'8 so that's only 2 inches shorter than myself, and that's the very upper limit of what I'd want to look like. But yeah, right now my goal is just gaining weight.


Lu xiaojun is 82kg, 77kg is his competition weight :p
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2015 09:58 GMT
#828
On May 18 2015 09:45 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:05 Najda wrote:
On May 18 2015 03:40 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:54 IgnE wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:13 Osmoses wrote:
Golf season has barely started and alteady I got both golfer's knee and golfer's elbow. Why is my body so crap?


Not taking proper care of it in the offseason?

Re: cutting vs. bulking, like MtlGuitarist, and anyone who isn't already heavier than 200 lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ2fZR5cQ5Q#t=18m18s

It's funny how they talk about getting psyched up for big lifts with loud, fast music when they were younger, but now they like to chill a bit more in their workouts. Same thing happened to me. Used to get super worked up when I was doing powerlifting. Put on the Rosetta Stone album in the back room, splash the chalk everywhere, and get ready to squat. Now I just prefer a chiller gym experience.

How heavy should I be willing to get? I'm really short (5'6", maybe 5'7"), and not particularly lean at the moment at ~160-162 lbs. Should I just try to eat around maintenance and get enough protein each day, or should I actually try to gain weight?

These are my goals to hit by the end of the summer. They'll hopefully be attainable in three months, but who knows.

Squat 210x6 --> 265x6 (projected max of 251 to projected max of 317)
Bench Press 170x6 --> 200x6
Deadlift 300x6 --> 345x6 (projected max of 405)
OHP 115x6 --> 130x6

I have around 14-15 weeks to hit my goals. Deadlift should be pretty attainable if I do 5 lbs per week for as long as possible, same with squats. Bench I'll probably stick to 2.5 lbs per week and hope that I can get to 200x6.


That depends on your goals. If your goal is literally just get as strong as possible then just keep eating. Aesthetic wise, at 5'10 I'd never want to be 200 lbs; my goal is much closer to around 170.


You really understimate the weight of huge legs and back. Tian Tao is 170cm 5'7, 86kg (190 pounds) and doesn't look huge at all. (FWIW I'm kinda same size but I look a lot bigger because of more bodyfat, bigger back/arms and def less legs)

Klokov was 6 foot and 230 pounds when I met him. Thickest guy I've ever seen, he looked like a refrigarator with limps.

You should just lift weights, gain weight staying reasonably lean and find the look that suits you.

That said, at 5 10 and 170 pounds you are just skinny.


By bodybuilding/powerlifting standards, yea 170 lbs 5'10 is skinny, but by normal person standards that's pretty big. Lu Xiaojun is 77kg 1.72m 170 lbs 5'8 so that's only 2 inches shorter than myself, and that's the very upper limit of what I'd want to look like. But yeah, right now my goal is just gaining weight.

yeah, I'm 5"8 at 163 lbs and pretty low bf atm, and while that's really skinny compared to anyone round here, compared to my social circle and even most people I meet, I'm pretty buff.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
May 18 2015 10:45 GMT
#829
One of my friends is 5'10 164 lbs and can deadlift 600 lbs. Size isn't everything
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 18 2015 10:52 GMT
#830
On May 18 2015 19:45 SolaR- wrote:
One of my friends is 5'10 164 lbs and can deadlift 600 lbs. Size isn't everything

Or is it? Your friend also sounds like he has the proportions of Maxx Chewning, since he pulled 600 lbs at around that height/bodyweight. I still think the most impressive lift in terms of proportion to bodyweight is Jennifer Thompson's 315 pause bench at 135 lbs or so.



Sorry for the potato quality.Also, does anyone else feel like they get way better lat activation doing chinups than doing any kind of barbell or machine row?
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
May 18 2015 11:07 GMT
#831
Yes, it is actually. I am from the same city as him haha. Honestly, I'd rather lean bulk and get as strong as I can without gaining too much weight. But i guess it depends on your goals/abilities/genetics.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15363 Posts
May 18 2015 11:15 GMT
#832
On May 18 2015 18:58 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 09:45 Najda wrote:
On May 18 2015 06:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:05 Najda wrote:
On May 18 2015 03:40 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:54 IgnE wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:13 Osmoses wrote:
Golf season has barely started and alteady I got both golfer's knee and golfer's elbow. Why is my body so crap?


Not taking proper care of it in the offseason?

Re: cutting vs. bulking, like MtlGuitarist, and anyone who isn't already heavier than 200 lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ2fZR5cQ5Q#t=18m18s

It's funny how they talk about getting psyched up for big lifts with loud, fast music when they were younger, but now they like to chill a bit more in their workouts. Same thing happened to me. Used to get super worked up when I was doing powerlifting. Put on the Rosetta Stone album in the back room, splash the chalk everywhere, and get ready to squat. Now I just prefer a chiller gym experience.

How heavy should I be willing to get? I'm really short (5'6", maybe 5'7"), and not particularly lean at the moment at ~160-162 lbs. Should I just try to eat around maintenance and get enough protein each day, or should I actually try to gain weight?

These are my goals to hit by the end of the summer. They'll hopefully be attainable in three months, but who knows.

Squat 210x6 --> 265x6 (projected max of 251 to projected max of 317)
Bench Press 170x6 --> 200x6
Deadlift 300x6 --> 345x6 (projected max of 405)
OHP 115x6 --> 130x6

I have around 14-15 weeks to hit my goals. Deadlift should be pretty attainable if I do 5 lbs per week for as long as possible, same with squats. Bench I'll probably stick to 2.5 lbs per week and hope that I can get to 200x6.


That depends on your goals. If your goal is literally just get as strong as possible then just keep eating. Aesthetic wise, at 5'10 I'd never want to be 200 lbs; my goal is much closer to around 170.


You really understimate the weight of huge legs and back. Tian Tao is 170cm 5'7, 86kg (190 pounds) and doesn't look huge at all. (FWIW I'm kinda same size but I look a lot bigger because of more bodyfat, bigger back/arms and def less legs)

Klokov was 6 foot and 230 pounds when I met him. Thickest guy I've ever seen, he looked like a refrigarator with limps.

You should just lift weights, gain weight staying reasonably lean and find the look that suits you.

That said, at 5 10 and 170 pounds you are just skinny.


By bodybuilding/powerlifting standards, yea 170 lbs 5'10 is skinny, but by normal person standards that's pretty big. Lu Xiaojun is 77kg 1.72m 170 lbs 5'8 so that's only 2 inches shorter than myself, and that's the very upper limit of what I'd want to look like. But yeah, right now my goal is just gaining weight.

yeah, I'm 5"8 at 163 lbs and pretty low bf atm, and while that's really skinny compared to anyone round here, compared to my social circle and even most people I meet, I'm pretty buff.

Yeah I am the same weight and height and in my circle that also makes me pretty much the strongest and most muscular guy.
I still feel a little too skinny, personally my ideal weight would be 75kg at 175cm. I am having trouble gaining lean weight past ~72kg though, seems like every time I get to 75kg it's just fat.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 18 2015 16:01 GMT
#833
Ugh, my shoulder is not improving despite rest (minus tough mudder and warrior dash so probably no right to complain...) and massage. I really need to get in the pool for this tri.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 17:03:49
May 18 2015 17:03 GMT
#834
On May 18 2015 19:45 SolaR- wrote:
One of my friends is 5'10 164 lbs and can deadlift 600 lbs. Size isn't everything


That's cool bro, but let's not kid ourselves. Size is most things. That guy is in like the 99.99% percentile for his strength/weight ratio at that height.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 18 2015 17:05 GMT
#835
On May 18 2015 20:15 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 18:58 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2015 09:45 Najda wrote:
On May 18 2015 06:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:05 Najda wrote:
On May 18 2015 03:40 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:54 IgnE wrote:
On May 18 2015 01:13 Osmoses wrote:
Golf season has barely started and alteady I got both golfer's knee and golfer's elbow. Why is my body so crap?


Not taking proper care of it in the offseason?

Re: cutting vs. bulking, like MtlGuitarist, and anyone who isn't already heavier than 200 lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ2fZR5cQ5Q#t=18m18s

It's funny how they talk about getting psyched up for big lifts with loud, fast music when they were younger, but now they like to chill a bit more in their workouts. Same thing happened to me. Used to get super worked up when I was doing powerlifting. Put on the Rosetta Stone album in the back room, splash the chalk everywhere, and get ready to squat. Now I just prefer a chiller gym experience.

How heavy should I be willing to get? I'm really short (5'6", maybe 5'7"), and not particularly lean at the moment at ~160-162 lbs. Should I just try to eat around maintenance and get enough protein each day, or should I actually try to gain weight?

These are my goals to hit by the end of the summer. They'll hopefully be attainable in three months, but who knows.

Squat 210x6 --> 265x6 (projected max of 251 to projected max of 317)
Bench Press 170x6 --> 200x6
Deadlift 300x6 --> 345x6 (projected max of 405)
OHP 115x6 --> 130x6

I have around 14-15 weeks to hit my goals. Deadlift should be pretty attainable if I do 5 lbs per week for as long as possible, same with squats. Bench I'll probably stick to 2.5 lbs per week and hope that I can get to 200x6.


That depends on your goals. If your goal is literally just get as strong as possible then just keep eating. Aesthetic wise, at 5'10 I'd never want to be 200 lbs; my goal is much closer to around 170.


You really understimate the weight of huge legs and back. Tian Tao is 170cm 5'7, 86kg (190 pounds) and doesn't look huge at all. (FWIW I'm kinda same size but I look a lot bigger because of more bodyfat, bigger back/arms and def less legs)

Klokov was 6 foot and 230 pounds when I met him. Thickest guy I've ever seen, he looked like a refrigarator with limps.

You should just lift weights, gain weight staying reasonably lean and find the look that suits you.

That said, at 5 10 and 170 pounds you are just skinny.


By bodybuilding/powerlifting standards, yea 170 lbs 5'10 is skinny, but by normal person standards that's pretty big. Lu Xiaojun is 77kg 1.72m 170 lbs 5'8 so that's only 2 inches shorter than myself, and that's the very upper limit of what I'd want to look like. But yeah, right now my goal is just gaining weight.

yeah, I'm 5"8 at 163 lbs and pretty low bf atm, and while that's really skinny compared to anyone round here, compared to my social circle and even most people I meet, I'm pretty buff.

Yeah I am the same weight and height and in my circle that also makes me pretty much the strongest and most muscular guy.
I still feel a little too skinny, personally my ideal weight would be 75kg at 175cm. I am having trouble gaining lean weight past ~72kg though, seems like every time I get to 75kg it's just fat.


Wait till you are 85-90. Don't be paranoid, I think an extra 10kg and going from a 6-pack to a 2 pack is a fair trade :p
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 18 2015 17:08 GMT
#836
On May 19 2015 02:03 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 19:45 SolaR- wrote:
One of my friends is 5'10 164 lbs and can deadlift 600 lbs. Size isn't everything


That's cool bro, but let's not kid ourselves. Size is most things. That guy is in like the 99.99% percentile for his strength/weight ratio at that height.


And he could prolly deadlift 700+ pounds if he was 200
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
May 19 2015 11:08 GMT
#837
Went to my school gym for the first time today, it has pretty nice equipment with Werksan bumper plates. Thing is they don't allow Chucks had to squat and deadlift in my running shoes
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 19 2015 11:48 GMT
#838
That's really strange they regulate what type of shoes you wear (beyond being closed toed).
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18855 Posts
May 19 2015 12:15 GMT
#839
It ain't strange in Singapore
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 19 2015 12:53 GMT
#840
On May 19 2015 21:15 farvacola wrote:
It ain't strange in Singapore

Well I guess that's true. It's more I'm surprised they're making a distinction between Converse Chucks and generic sneakers.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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