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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 19 2015 04:40 GMT
#121
cerrone won? LOL
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GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
January 19 2015 04:50 GMT
#122
On January 19 2015 13:40 CorsairHero wrote:
cerrone won? LOL


Are you making fun of the decision, or just the fact he won? It was a pretty even fight :\
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23759 Posts
January 19 2015 04:53 GMT
#123
Mcgreggor reminds me of a real life Brad Pitt "pikey" from snatch
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 19 2015 04:54 GMT
#124
maybe it was the rogan bias but i thought bendo won

his reaction was priceless when he found out he lost. Karma.
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GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 05:02:51
January 19 2015 05:01 GMT
#125
On January 19 2015 13:54 CorsairHero wrote:
maybe it was the rogan bias but i thought bendo won

his reaction was priceless when he found out he lost. Karma.


See, I had Cerrone take 1 and 2, but 2 was definitely a toss up and I'm totally fine with someone giving it to Bendo. I think it was one of those fights that either guy had a case for winning. Make me hate such "short" fights
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 19 2015 05:02 GMT
#126
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GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 05:14:11
January 19 2015 05:06 GMT
#127
McGregor so cocky man lol
edit: wish cowboy and bendo would have had more of a grappling match, tbh. Wanted to see some ground work out of em.
edit2: damn, was hoping Siver would offer more than that. Ah well, the hype train rolls forward. Good for Dana.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 19 2015 05:13 GMT
#128
elbowing arms stops fights lol
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17375 Posts
January 19 2015 05:14 GMT
#129
the Macgregor fight ended like those youtube.com girl fights filmed on a cell phone.
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
January 19 2015 05:14 GMT
#130
Aldo is going to take Conors "style' and pick him apart, and give him a clinic.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 19 2015 05:23 GMT
#131
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aldo too scared to walk into the cage
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Ultraliskhero
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
January 19 2015 06:13 GMT
#132
Wow, despite being so one-sided, that was some beautiful stuff form McGregor. Very Aesthetically pleasing kicks from him. Don't think he deserves the title shot over Franky, but o well, I wouldn't mind watching him vs Aldo.

I watched the Cowboy vs Benson fight at a bar with zero sound (so no Rogan bias), and I definitely scored it for Benson. I thought round 1 was super close, I woulda given it a draw, but Benson took round two. He was throwing so many of those front kicks to the knee area, and Cerrone didn't deal with them at all. I felt like Cerrone was thrown off his rhythm and his offence was shut down by those front knee kicks. Third round, I scored it for Benson aswell, I thought Benson landed a bit more and was just more in control, again with the use of those front kicks to the lead leg. Also, I didn't hear what was said for the post fight interview, but by the expression on their faces, Cerrone himself looked surprised that the judges gave it to him, so that should say something. Also, Benson seemed pissed off during the interview lol.

also, the contrasting expressions in the above picture is awesome.

ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 19 2015 06:26 GMT
#133
On January 19 2015 13:54 CorsairHero wrote:
maybe it was the rogan bias but i thought bendo won

his reaction was priceless when he found out he lost. Karma.


This.

I hate when Joe Rogan tells us who's winning and who isn't. His voice seems to dictate the narrative of combat sports because the fans start repeating the stuff he says as fact. He's not watching the show on a screen like we are. He sees it through a cage from his seat below the octagon. Additionally, he is a hype-man. Part of his job is to be a storyteller to puff up mismatches, like DC versus Jon Jones. The truth is, Siver never had a chance against McGregor. Siver was mad because McGregor was ranked higher than him, and McGregor basically said "I'm ranked higher because I'm better than you." and then Dennis Siver was put in a position where he felt like he had to call McGregor out, which McGregor then accepted and then the ensuing massacre took place.

I was surprised that the fight even took place. I figured McGregor would fight someone like Cub Swanson after Dustin Poirier. Do I think Swanson can beat McGregor? Not really, but it makes more sense for a title contention/eliminator.

So, Jose Aldo vs Conor McGregor. Right now, Jose Aldo is seen by the fans as an unstoppable wrecking machine. But he's human. Chan Sung-Jung showed some success throwing some wild flying knees at Aldo, but I think that fight ended prematurely because of Chan's injury. I might have to go back and rewatch that fight though since it was awhile ago, but I remember that Aldo looked superior, but not invincible. His fight with Frankie Edgar was much closer, and although Edgar is known as a wrestler, he has very good striking. In Aldo's fight against Chad Mendes (the second one), again, you saw Aldo take a lot of big hits, maybe rocked once.

The point I'm making is, Aldo has shown cracks in his armor over time against good strikers. Aldo has a ton of striking power, but then again, so does McGregor. Something I don't think most people are thinking about though is the movement of McGregor, who has excellent footwork to keep himself at whichever range he wants. Chad Mendes also showed some really good movement in his second fight with Aldo, but he wasn't 'long enough' (that's what she said) to really put the hurt on Aldo, and Aldo was able to eventually take away the movement of Mendes with leg kicks. One of the big reasons Mendes utilized a lot of movement is because he simply didn't want to get hit with a big shot, because it happened before, and he wanted to avoid those power shots of Aldo, move into the pocket, land strikes and then get out. This strategy got him fairly deep into the fight despite some close calls where he got saved by the bell. McGregor, conversely, has just as good of footwork (if not better) and more range and power to work with.

Another X-factor is Aldo's kicks being taken away. Chan Sung-Jung trained specifically for the leg-kick of Jose Aldo, and stopped one of them in the first round with a leg check that actually hurt Aldo bad enough to prevent him from using his kicks to much effect in the fight.

The point isn't that "McGregor will win", but don't jump on the Jose Aldo hype train and start thinking that McGregor is facing an impossible challenge, because it's quite possible that McGregor could win that fight, and the fight might even go the distance.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 19 2015 06:31 GMT
#134
Oh, additional note: I've never been a fan of Benson Henderson, but I do also think he won tonight, but I think it wasn't a very 'clean' win, and Cerrone pushed forward, landed a lot of head kicks and a couple of takedowns, so he's definitely got a case to make that he won.

The reason I wasn't a fan of Benson Henderson is because I felt like he was a do-nothing fighter who just went for decisions, but he actually did stuff during this fight, and I liked seeing him do that. If he keeps that up, I might end up enjoying his fights.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17375 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 16:07:29
January 19 2015 13:45 GMT
#135
On January 19 2015 00:48 SynC[gm] wrote:
UFC Bantamweight Champion us T.J. Dillashaw will defend his title for the second time in a rematch against br Renan Barao at UFC 186 in Montreal.


Also featured on the card will be title eliminator ca Rory Macdonald vs cu Hector Lombard and us Quinton Jackson will be making his return to the UFC against br Fabio Maldonado


maybe i do not know the definition of "title eliminator".

in this interview Dana White dodges any talk of a future Macdonald title shot even if he defeats Hector Lombard.

http://www.tsn.ca/dillashaw-barao-ii-macdonald-lombard-headline-ufc-186-in-montreal-1.185365

he also doesn't say Hendricks gets the next shot if he wins.

his comment is "the top guys in teh division are all fighting and we'll see what happens".

On January 19 2015 15:26 ninazerg wrote:
The point I'm making is, Aldo has shown cracks in his armor over time against good strikers. Aldo has a ton of striking power, but then again, so does McGregor.


in UFC 129 Aldo couldn't put away Hominick and Hominick made a giant comeback.
at that time Hominick was a really good striker.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 19 2015 17:02 GMT
#136
McGregors a fucking beast.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 19 2015 18:54 GMT
#137
aldo had weight cutting issues back then
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 19 2015 19:43 GMT
#138
I might just watch UFC 186 just to see how good/bad Quinton Jackson does, but the main/co-main events are meh. I'm not a huge fan of immediate rematches, but I guess since Dillashaw and Barao both fought, that iiiiiit's time, or the time is now or whatever. My gripe with MacDonald has always been that he is a boring fighter. The fight against Tyron Woodley was a fairly decent performance, but he couldn't put Woodley away even when Woodley was clearly heavily outmatched. In essence, Jon-Fitch-Decision-Machine fighter. People don't want to see 'dominance' necessarily, but destruction. Every fight that MacDonald goes into is a test to see if he can prove that he can destroy top fighters by knocking them out or submitting them, but so far, that has not been the case.

He is cute though
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
January 19 2015 21:29 GMT
#139
I don't follow MMA religiously, only watch when my favorites fight. Anyway, I had nothing to do so watched the post-fight conference and holy shit McGregor is hilarious, I don't know if he's a better comedian or fighter.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
January 19 2015 22:55 GMT
#140
I loved the part when he jumped over the fence and went over to scream at aldo in front of his family.

I can't wait until hes on some podcast or something.
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