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On February 19 2014 06:16 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 05:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Finland vs Russia will be great indeed.
I feel like the russian squad is ripe for an upset. If Tuukka can stand on his head there is a distinct possibility. Watching these games, i think russia winning would be more of an upset lol.
eh, even though I think Russia has been playing pretty meh (watching the replay from this morning, they should have never been up only 2-0 vs norway), Finland is out it's top two centers. Immonen is the first for christ's sake haha. If they win, it's definitely an upset.
Certainly in a single elim tournament with Tukka in net, they've got a decent shot.
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I'm not gonna bother with CanvLat. I'd rather sleep. Go to to bed after Russia Finland!
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On February 19 2014 06:58 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 06:16 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 05:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Finland vs Russia will be great indeed.
I feel like the russian squad is ripe for an upset. If Tuukka can stand on his head there is a distinct possibility. Watching these games, i think russia winning would be more of an upset lol. eh, even though I think Russia has been playing pretty meh (watching the replay from this morning, they should have never been up only 2-0 vs norway), Finland is out it's top two centers. Immonen is the first for christ's sake haha. If they win, it's definitely an upset. Certainly in a single elim tournament with Tukka in net, they've got a decent shot.
Well, Immonen is the first center, because he and Granlund have played well together before. Finland has proven itself quite strong, while Russias had problems, not only with Norway but also Slovakia and Slovenia-
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On February 19 2014 07:04 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 06:58 QuanticHawk wrote:On February 19 2014 06:16 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 05:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Finland vs Russia will be great indeed.
I feel like the russian squad is ripe for an upset. If Tuukka can stand on his head there is a distinct possibility. Watching these games, i think russia winning would be more of an upset lol. eh, even though I think Russia has been playing pretty meh (watching the replay from this morning, they should have never been up only 2-0 vs norway), Finland is out it's top two centers. Immonen is the first for christ's sake haha. If they win, it's definitely an upset. Certainly in a single elim tournament with Tukka in net, they've got a decent shot. Well, Immonen is the first center, because he and Granlund have played well together before. Finland has proven itself quite strong, while Russias had problems, not only with Norway but also Slovakia and Slovenia-
yeah, finland is strong and would give any of the top 4 teams a run for their money. immonen just kinda sucks and shouldnt be anywhere near the first line ideally. without koivu and filppula, theyre definitely the underdogs, but it wouldnt be a huge upset either.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 19 2014 06:25 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 04:00 Sub40APM wrote:On February 18 2014 23:42 Ysellian wrote:
Kovalchuk, Datsyuk and Radulov are making everything happen for Russia. Funny because Ovechkin and Malkin are more known right? Ovechkin and Malkin are like David Beckham, over promoted by the media and beloved by people who dont understand or want to understand hockey. Ovechkin has never won anything relevant and Malkin has only won when surrounded by a better players. Datsyuk is the only winner on team Russia, which is why in every game he plays he looks so effective. I love how you get proven completely wrong, then just stop replying for a few pages and come back to start spewing the same crap again. Since you seem to have missed it, here you go: Show nested quote +Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible. Show nested quote +
Malkin has 97 points in 83 playoff games
Malkin has over a point per game in every single playoff year
Malkin has won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup
Malkin does not play on a line with Crosby for the vast majority of his even strength TOI
2009 Stanley Cup Finals: Crosby is injured and not as effective against Detroit, getting just 3 points. Pittsburgh is only able to score 14 goals in the 7 game series. Malkin gets 8 points, meaning he was in on over half of the team's points. Wow, what a terrible playoff performer.
Ovechkin in the 2008 playoffs vs Philadelphia: 4 goals and 9 points in 7 games. He gets a goal and an assist in their 3-2 game 7 loss against Philadelphia.
Ovechkin in the 2009 playoffs vs Pittsburgh: 8 goals and 14 points in 7 games, doubling his points in round 1 against NYR. He gets one of the team's two goals in their 6-2 game 7 loss. In order to win this game, he would have needed to get 6 points.
Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal: 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. In game 7, he gets an assist on the team's only goal in a 2-1 loss.
Ovechkin in the 2011 playoffs vs Tampa Bay: 2 goals and 4 points in 4 games. In that round, Backstrom gets 1 point, Semin gets 2 points and Mike Green gets 1 point. Ovechkin is the only one amongst Washington's star players to get a point in their eliminating loss.
While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.
arguing that a guy who won a Conn Smythe and who tears it up each time Crosby goes on the DL for a while shows a lack of judgement imo.
I remember his hat trick in the Canes series in 09... This is the 3rd goal. Worth a click.
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On February 19 2014 07:04 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 06:58 QuanticHawk wrote:On February 19 2014 06:16 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 05:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Finland vs Russia will be great indeed.
I feel like the russian squad is ripe for an upset. If Tuukka can stand on his head there is a distinct possibility. Watching these games, i think russia winning would be more of an upset lol. eh, even though I think Russia has been playing pretty meh (watching the replay from this morning, they should have never been up only 2-0 vs norway), Finland is out it's top two centers. Immonen is the first for christ's sake haha. If they win, it's definitely an upset. Certainly in a single elim tournament with Tukka in net, they've got a decent shot. Well, Immonen is the first center, because he and Granlund have played well together before. Finland has proven itself quite strong, while Russias had problems, not only with Norway but also Slovakia and Slovenia-
yes but the talent meter indicates Finland should get wrecked. I mean the russian coach could double shift malkin and datskyuk all night and Finland would see even less of the puck than during the Canada-Finland game.
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On February 19 2014 07:17 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 07:04 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 06:58 QuanticHawk wrote:On February 19 2014 06:16 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 05:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Finland vs Russia will be great indeed.
I feel like the russian squad is ripe for an upset. If Tuukka can stand on his head there is a distinct possibility. Watching these games, i think russia winning would be more of an upset lol. eh, even though I think Russia has been playing pretty meh (watching the replay from this morning, they should have never been up only 2-0 vs norway), Finland is out it's top two centers. Immonen is the first for christ's sake haha. If they win, it's definitely an upset. Certainly in a single elim tournament with Tukka in net, they've got a decent shot. Well, Immonen is the first center, because he and Granlund have played well together before. Finland has proven itself quite strong, while Russias had problems, not only with Norway but also Slovakia and Slovenia- yes but the talent meter indicates Finland should get wrecked. I mean the russian coach could double shift malkin and datskyuk all night and Finland would see even less of the puck than during the Canada-Finland game.
Teamplay meter says Finland wins 10-0 :D
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On February 19 2014 06:25 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 04:00 Sub40APM wrote:On February 18 2014 23:42 Ysellian wrote:
Kovalchuk, Datsyuk and Radulov are making everything happen for Russia. Funny because Ovechkin and Malkin are more known right? Ovechkin and Malkin are like David Beckham, over promoted by the media and beloved by people who dont understand or want to understand hockey. Ovechkin has never won anything relevant and Malkin has only won when surrounded by a better players. Datsyuk is the only winner on team Russia, which is why in every game he plays he looks so effective. I love how you get proven completely wrong, then just stop replying for a few pages and come back to start spewing the same crap again. Since you seem to have missed it, here you go: Show nested quote +Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible. Show nested quote +
Malkin has 97 points in 83 playoff games
Malkin has over a point per game in every single playoff year
Malkin has won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup
Malkin does not play on a line with Crosby for the vast majority of his even strength TOI
2009 Stanley Cup Finals: Crosby is injured and not as effective against Detroit, getting just 3 points. Pittsburgh is only able to score 14 goals in the 7 game series. Malkin gets 8 points, meaning he was in on over half of the team's points. Wow, what a terrible playoff performer.
Ovechkin in the 2008 playoffs vs Philadelphia: 4 goals and 9 points in 7 games. He gets a goal and an assist in their 3-2 game 7 loss against Philadelphia.
Ovechkin in the 2009 playoffs vs Pittsburgh: 8 goals and 14 points in 7 games, doubling his points in round 1 against NYR. He gets one of the team's two goals in their 6-2 game 7 loss. In order to win this game, he would have needed to get 6 points.
Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal: 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. In game 7, he gets an assist on the team's only goal in a 2-1 loss.
Ovechkin in the 2011 playoffs vs Tampa Bay: 2 goals and 4 points in 4 games. In that round, Backstrom gets 1 point, Semin gets 2 points and Mike Green gets 1 point. Ovechkin is the only one amongst Washington's star players to get a point in their eliminating loss.
While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Choke's ability to score meaningless goals really proves that Choke isnt a Choke. I know as a Canuck fan you are used to your forwards playing from center ice out so Chokes perpetual inability to play defense, his team's exposure to inferior offenses whenever he is on the ice and his bizaro attempts at trying to skate through NHL defenders that invariable leads to loss of the puck and a counter attack are concepts all a little too hard for you to understand so let me put it in Canuck talk. Ovechkin is like the Sedins -- when the games dont matter they look so so pretty and when the games do matter they get clobbered by physically and emotionally superior teams. Anyway, dont be so sad about the Canucks plumbing the depths of incompetence, at least you wont have to burn down Vancouver for another 10 years so thats something.
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On February 19 2014 07:17 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 07:04 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 06:58 QuanticHawk wrote:On February 19 2014 06:16 Luolis wrote:On February 19 2014 05:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Finland vs Russia will be great indeed.
I feel like the russian squad is ripe for an upset. If Tuukka can stand on his head there is a distinct possibility. Watching these games, i think russia winning would be more of an upset lol. eh, even though I think Russia has been playing pretty meh (watching the replay from this morning, they should have never been up only 2-0 vs norway), Finland is out it's top two centers. Immonen is the first for christ's sake haha. If they win, it's definitely an upset. Certainly in a single elim tournament with Tukka in net, they've got a decent shot. Well, Immonen is the first center, because he and Granlund have played well together before. Finland has proven itself quite strong, while Russias had problems, not only with Norway but also Slovakia and Slovenia- yes but the talent meter indicates Finland should get wrecked. I mean the russian coach could double shift malkin and datskyuk all night and Finland would see even less of the puck than during the Canada-Finland game.
They dont have to see a lot of puck. They just have to scare the Russians into thinking its going to a S/O and Ovechkin is going to start playing his super useful 3 minute shifts, get tired and a random Finish counter attack gets them the win.
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On February 19 2014 07:13 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 19 2014 06:25 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 04:00 Sub40APM wrote:On February 18 2014 23:42 Ysellian wrote:
Kovalchuk, Datsyuk and Radulov are making everything happen for Russia. Funny because Ovechkin and Malkin are more known right? Ovechkin and Malkin are like David Beckham, over promoted by the media and beloved by people who dont understand or want to understand hockey. Ovechkin has never won anything relevant and Malkin has only won when surrounded by a better players. Datsyuk is the only winner on team Russia, which is why in every game he plays he looks so effective. I love how you get proven completely wrong, then just stop replying for a few pages and come back to start spewing the same crap again. Since you seem to have missed it, here you go: Show nested quote +Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible. Show nested quote +
Malkin has 97 points in 83 playoff games
Malkin has over a point per game in every single playoff year
Malkin has won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup
Malkin does not play on a line with Crosby for the vast majority of his even strength TOI
2009 Stanley Cup Finals: Crosby is injured and not as effective against Detroit, getting just 3 points. Pittsburgh is only able to score 14 goals in the 7 game series. Malkin gets 8 points, meaning he was in on over half of the team's points. Wow, what a terrible playoff performer.
Ovechkin in the 2008 playoffs vs Philadelphia: 4 goals and 9 points in 7 games. He gets a goal and an assist in their 3-2 game 7 loss against Philadelphia.
Ovechkin in the 2009 playoffs vs Pittsburgh: 8 goals and 14 points in 7 games, doubling his points in round 1 against NYR. He gets one of the team's two goals in their 6-2 game 7 loss. In order to win this game, he would have needed to get 6 points.
Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal: 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. In game 7, he gets an assist on the team's only goal in a 2-1 loss.
Ovechkin in the 2011 playoffs vs Tampa Bay: 2 goals and 4 points in 4 games. In that round, Backstrom gets 1 point, Semin gets 2 points and Mike Green gets 1 point. Ovechkin is the only one amongst Washington's star players to get a point in their eliminating loss.
While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.
arguing that a guy who won a Conn Smythe and who tears it up each time Crosby goes on the DL for a while shows a lack of judgement imo. I remember his hat trick in the Canes series in 09... This is the 3rd goal. Worth a click.
You know who else has a Conn Smythe? Cam Ward.
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On February 19 2014 03:05 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:really entertaining games so far! too busy watching hockey to post  i love Russia's " low post play " on the big ice that Datsyuk basically invented. i'd love to see more "low post play" along with intentionally wide shots. although this event has been really fun to watch , its still more fun to play hockey than it is to watch. I've never played it before I don't even know if you can in NL lol.
who can stop u from playing?
assuming your temperatures are always below 0 C and your friends have a pair of skates
its pretty easy to make your own rink in your back yard or front yard.
just use a garden hose and flood your backyard with water before you go to bed.
do that 3 nights in a row and you'll have a skating rink.. there are youtube videos that show u how to do it.. and usually they make it more complex than it needs to be.
invite some friends over...
it does not need to be any where near as "formal" or expensive or organized as the hockey you see on tv.
any kind of hockey stick can be used. and u split up the teams so u wind up with an even game.
we sometimes paly "Kodiak Boot" hockey. no one is allowed to wear skates. everyone is running around on the ice with a pair of kodiak boots on.. really any pair of boots will do.
everyone sliding around on the ice. its a laugh.
On February 19 2014 07:46 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 07:13 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 19 2014 06:25 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 04:00 Sub40APM wrote:On February 18 2014 23:42 Ysellian wrote:
Kovalchuk, Datsyuk and Radulov are making everything happen for Russia. Funny because Ovechkin and Malkin are more known right? Ovechkin and Malkin are like David Beckham, over promoted by the media and beloved by people who dont understand or want to understand hockey. Ovechkin has never won anything relevant and Malkin has only won when surrounded by a better players. Datsyuk is the only winner on team Russia, which is why in every game he plays he looks so effective. I love how you get proven completely wrong, then just stop replying for a few pages and come back to start spewing the same crap again. Since you seem to have missed it, here you go: Show nested quote +Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible. Show nested quote +
Malkin has 97 points in 83 playoff games
Malkin has over a point per game in every single playoff year
Malkin has won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup
Malkin does not play on a line with Crosby for the vast majority of his even strength TOI
2009 Stanley Cup Finals: Crosby is injured and not as effective against Detroit, getting just 3 points. Pittsburgh is only able to score 14 goals in the 7 game series. Malkin gets 8 points, meaning he was in on over half of the team's points. Wow, what a terrible playoff performer.
Ovechkin in the 2008 playoffs vs Philadelphia: 4 goals and 9 points in 7 games. He gets a goal and an assist in their 3-2 game 7 loss against Philadelphia.
Ovechkin in the 2009 playoffs vs Pittsburgh: 8 goals and 14 points in 7 games, doubling his points in round 1 against NYR. He gets one of the team's two goals in their 6-2 game 7 loss. In order to win this game, he would have needed to get 6 points.
Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal: 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. In game 7, he gets an assist on the team's only goal in a 2-1 loss.
Ovechkin in the 2011 playoffs vs Tampa Bay: 2 goals and 4 points in 4 games. In that round, Backstrom gets 1 point, Semin gets 2 points and Mike Green gets 1 point. Ovechkin is the only one amongst Washington's star players to get a point in their eliminating loss.
While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.
arguing that a guy who won a Conn Smythe and who tears it up each time Crosby goes on the DL for a while shows a lack of judgement imo. I remember his hat trick in the Canes series in 09... This is the 3rd goal. Worth a click. You know who else has a Conn Smythe? Cam Ward.
did u actually watch the 2006 playoffs?
it is an award he deserved.
that said.. the Smythe has been handed out how many times?
and u've named 1 example.
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On February 19 2014 07:46 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 07:13 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 19 2014 06:25 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 04:00 Sub40APM wrote:On February 18 2014 23:42 Ysellian wrote:
Kovalchuk, Datsyuk and Radulov are making everything happen for Russia. Funny because Ovechkin and Malkin are more known right? Ovechkin and Malkin are like David Beckham, over promoted by the media and beloved by people who dont understand or want to understand hockey. Ovechkin has never won anything relevant and Malkin has only won when surrounded by a better players. Datsyuk is the only winner on team Russia, which is why in every game he plays he looks so effective. I love how you get proven completely wrong, then just stop replying for a few pages and come back to start spewing the same crap again. Since you seem to have missed it, here you go: Show nested quote +Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible. Show nested quote +
Malkin has 97 points in 83 playoff games
Malkin has over a point per game in every single playoff year
Malkin has won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup
Malkin does not play on a line with Crosby for the vast majority of his even strength TOI
2009 Stanley Cup Finals: Crosby is injured and not as effective against Detroit, getting just 3 points. Pittsburgh is only able to score 14 goals in the 7 game series. Malkin gets 8 points, meaning he was in on over half of the team's points. Wow, what a terrible playoff performer.
Ovechkin in the 2008 playoffs vs Philadelphia: 4 goals and 9 points in 7 games. He gets a goal and an assist in their 3-2 game 7 loss against Philadelphia.
Ovechkin in the 2009 playoffs vs Pittsburgh: 8 goals and 14 points in 7 games, doubling his points in round 1 against NYR. He gets one of the team's two goals in their 6-2 game 7 loss. In order to win this game, he would have needed to get 6 points.
Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal: 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. In game 7, he gets an assist on the team's only goal in a 2-1 loss.
Ovechkin in the 2011 playoffs vs Tampa Bay: 2 goals and 4 points in 4 games. In that round, Backstrom gets 1 point, Semin gets 2 points and Mike Green gets 1 point. Ovechkin is the only one amongst Washington's star players to get a point in their eliminating loss.
While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.
arguing that a guy who won a Conn Smythe and who tears it up each time Crosby goes on the DL for a while shows a lack of judgement imo. I remember his hat trick in the Canes series in 09... This is the 3rd goal. Worth a click. You know who else has a Conn Smythe? Cam Ward.
last few seasons were rough because he was injured. Hes a very decent goaltender imo. His team is also pretty lousy and has been for a while now.
edit: lol Ovechkin is like the Sedins?? I want to have what you are smoking.
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lol at the cookies.
I actually ctrl+f ''cookie'' in the article about him and his sister. Without success 
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any one who dismisses a Conn Smythe award needs to attend 1 NHL playoff game
to see the teeth that are lost....
the blood that is spilled...
the stitches that are taken...
the bruises inflicted when a man lays down to block a piece of volcanized rubber going 90+ mph.
all to win just 1 of the 16 games it takes to win lord stanley's mug.
scoffing at the Conn Smythe is ignorant on its face.
Bernie Parent played like garbage in the years before he won his 2 Conn Smythe trophies.
he was traded for nothing.
so i guess Bernie Parent sucks too
ROFLMAO.
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On February 19 2014 07:44 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 06:25 GolemMadness wrote:On February 19 2014 04:00 Sub40APM wrote:On February 18 2014 23:42 Ysellian wrote:
Kovalchuk, Datsyuk and Radulov are making everything happen for Russia. Funny because Ovechkin and Malkin are more known right? Ovechkin and Malkin are like David Beckham, over promoted by the media and beloved by people who dont understand or want to understand hockey. Ovechkin has never won anything relevant and Malkin has only won when surrounded by a better players. Datsyuk is the only winner on team Russia, which is why in every game he plays he looks so effective. I love how you get proven completely wrong, then just stop replying for a few pages and come back to start spewing the same crap again. Since you seem to have missed it, here you go: Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible.
Malkin has 97 points in 83 playoff games
Malkin has over a point per game in every single playoff year
Malkin has won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup
Malkin does not play on a line with Crosby for the vast majority of his even strength TOI
2009 Stanley Cup Finals: Crosby is injured and not as effective against Detroit, getting just 3 points. Pittsburgh is only able to score 14 goals in the 7 game series. Malkin gets 8 points, meaning he was in on over half of the team's points. Wow, what a terrible playoff performer.
Ovechkin in the 2008 playoffs vs Philadelphia: 4 goals and 9 points in 7 games. He gets a goal and an assist in their 3-2 game 7 loss against Philadelphia.
Ovechkin in the 2009 playoffs vs Pittsburgh: 8 goals and 14 points in 7 games, doubling his points in round 1 against NYR. He gets one of the team's two goals in their 6-2 game 7 loss. In order to win this game, he would have needed to get 6 points.
Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal: 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. In game 7, he gets an assist on the team's only goal in a 2-1 loss.
Ovechkin in the 2011 playoffs vs Tampa Bay: 2 goals and 4 points in 4 games. In that round, Backstrom gets 1 point, Semin gets 2 points and Mike Green gets 1 point. Ovechkin is the only one amongst Washington's star players to get a point in their eliminating loss.
While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Choke's ability to score meaningless goals really proves that Choke isnt a Choke. I know as a Canuck fan you are used to your forwards playing from center ice out so Chokes perpetual inability to play defense, his team's exposure to inferior offenses whenever he is on the ice and his bizaro attempts at trying to skate through NHL defenders that invariable leads to loss of the puck and a counter attack are concepts all a little too hard for you to understand so let me put it in Canuck talk. Ovechkin is like the Sedins -- when the games dont matter they look so so pretty and when the games do matter they get clobbered by physically and emotionally superior teams. Anyway, dont be so sad about the Canucks plumbing the depths of incompetence, at least you wont have to burn down Vancouver for another 10 years so thats something.
"I don't actually have an argument, so I'm just going to repeatedly say that he's bad and then personally attack you."
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this Sub40APM guy is good for a laugh
Roenicke, not exactly a political correct guy, thinks Ovechkin is a fantastic sniper and goal scorer.
i guess Roenicke "doesn't understand the game of hockey" or is flat out lying about a meaningless issue... i can't see Roenicke "taking a stand" on a meaningless issue. which this whole ovechkin thing is.
for me to believe Roenicke is lying about Ovechkin i'd need a motive.
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Is there a reason certain NHL players don't wear their regular #s?
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On February 19 2014 09:45 Scrandom wrote:
Is there a reason certain NHL players don't wear their regular #s?
Somebody else on the team has the number.
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I'm cheering for Russia, but I have to say that they are playing extremely bad this tournament and that they have no chance of winning the tournament.
Of course, if they win I'll be happy but I just don't see that happening. Their defense is okay this tournament but the offensive play is just awful. Sure, Kovalchuk, Ovechkin and Malkin may be top tier NHL players, but I just don't see it here. The only one making good plays is Datsyuk.
It's pretty hilarious too, since for some reason, the NHL players of the other teams are playing really well. I don't understand what's going on with the Russian team at all. I mean, losing against USA with that top tier offensive is just flat out embarrassing. Every single playing in the Russian lineup is a star and what do we see? Nothing. Measly 1-0 victory against Slovakia who are playing awfully this tournament and loss vs USA, who we are simply supposed to win against.
They have to shape up, or I fear we are going to suffer a horrible defeat at the hands of Finland, who aren't bad (unlike the teams we've faced before) and have a record of defeating Russia in important tournaments.
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