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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 21:30:47
February 20 2014 21:30 GMT
#2261
Is Ajax over emphasizing developing talent and selling them for huge sums, at the expense of more success at the higher level? They're a big club and I imagine they have money, shouldn't they buy some expensive players, or at least not always sell the good ones to other clubs if they want to do better in European competition?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18482 Posts
February 20 2014 21:31 GMT
#2262
of course the result itself is shocking, 3-0 away is crazy for any team to score in Ajax

But I expected Ajax vs Salzburg to be a very even series
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 22:21:24
February 20 2014 21:39 GMT
#2263
On February 21 2014 06:30 sitromit wrote:
Is Ajax over emphasizing developing talent and selling them for huge sums, at the expense of more success at the higher level? They're a big club and I imagine they have money, shouldn't they buy some expensive players, or at least not always sell the good ones to other clubs if they want to do better in European competition?


I believe they were forced to sell their best players due to short contracts, but why they didn't reinvest the money I'm not sure. An ajax fan would likely know more.

edit: Lol porto from 2-0 up it suddenly became 2-2

Rough week for the Premier league:
Manchester City = no goals.
Arsenal = no goals.
Tottenham = no goals.
Swansea = no goals.
Premier League = no goals.


sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 20 2014 21:53 GMT
#2264
Porto's stands are empty. :o
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
February 20 2014 21:57 GMT
#2265
FRANKFURT!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 22:40:32
February 20 2014 22:35 GMT
#2266
Porto fans have been feeling a bit unhappy about their team lately. Do check out Quaresma's goal though. He's back to his old form.
[image loading]
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 20 2014 22:43 GMT
#2267
On February 21 2014 07:35 warding wrote:
Porto fans have been feeling a bit unhappy about their team lately. Do check out Quaresma's goal though. He's back to his old form.

Yeah, I already saw that, amazing goal.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 22:48:51
February 20 2014 22:48 GMT
#2268
holy shit^^

[image loading]
Respect my authoritah!!
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
February 20 2014 23:18 GMT
#2269
I follow salzburg for quite some time now and I have to say I am not the tiniest bit of suprised they won, though I would not have expected the match to be that one sided. They didn't get a shot at the goal until the 94th minute of the game.
Salzburg just plays good football in a very unconventional way, i.e a lot and very HARD pressing. Then, if they win the ball, they try to make a shot at the goal quickly.

PS: I honestly think Ajax underestimated Salzburg quite a bit, when I read that Ajax declared themselves as favourites.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 20 2014 23:20 GMT
#2270
On February 21 2014 06:39 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 06:30 sitromit wrote:
Is Ajax over emphasizing developing talent and selling them for huge sums, at the expense of more success at the higher level? They're a big club and I imagine they have money, shouldn't they buy some expensive players, or at least not always sell the good ones to other clubs if they want to do better in European competition?


I believe they were forced to sell their best players due to short contracts, but why they didn't reinvest the money I'm not sure. An ajax fan would likely know more.

edit: Lol porto from 2-0 up it suddenly became 2-2

Rough week for the Premier league:
Manchester City = no goals.
Arsenal = no goals.
Tottenham = no goals.
Swansea = no goals.
Premier League = no goals.




It didn't help that they lost Alderweireld and Eriksen in the last week of the transfer window.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 21 2014 00:16 GMT
#2271
lol man we got sooo owned. I was watching with a buddy and we were truly dumbfounded and laughing our asses off at how amazingly good Salzburg was playing. And then that wondergoal (3-0), amazing. I'm still somewhat shell-shocked at how good they were in that first half. Constant pressing, they destroyed us harder than Real Madrid did in the last few years. Not that we were playing well, but this was just pure and utter domination like no other team has done in recent memory. We just started watching a tv-show from the 65th minute, no use in watching more xD

Anyway, as for the question that was asked, yeah Ajax has some money, but they prefer to not buy players that don't raise the overall level of the team and they have a salary-cap. They prefer to invest a lot in youth development and just replace guys like Eriksen and Alderweireld with new talent from the youth division like Klaassen and Veldman (who both got pre-selected for the Netherlands - France friendly on 5th of March btw). They simply can't buy better players than they develop themselves, because they're simply not affordable. They might pick up some talents this summer though. 17 year old big talent from Groningen (Zivkovic) will likely sign for Ajax and Ziyech from Heerenveen, also big talent, is linked with a move to Ajax.

Yeah historically they're a big team, but nowadays with a budget of around €70m you can't just buy together a squad (which wouldn't work anyway). I prefer the way they're handling it. They just play in a good system (the Ajax system) with good positional play throughout the youth academy all the way up to the first team, so every player from the youth division can seemingly just enter the first team and play ball. This is also why a lot of talents choose Ajax (for less money) over a big club in England etc.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 21 2014 00:23 GMT
#2272
Oh well, I'm just gonna watch Holland win some more medals in the speedskating the next couple of days
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3983 Posts
February 21 2014 03:03 GMT
#2273
Yup, we were watching Ajax here too, and pretty flabbergasted at how easily they got rolled up. They just seemed lazy, bored and slow all the way through, and all the Salzburg players looked like they'd downed a couple of cans of Red Bull. I predicted they'd get tired after a while at the very start, and they did (a little) but by then it was already 0-3. And they were not worse than Ajax in the second half either. Compare that to the Ajax performances in the CL this season and this just seems ridiculous. GG Salzburg!
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 21 2014 04:16 GMT
#2274
On February 21 2014 09:16 Twisted wrote:
lol man we got sooo owned. I was watching with a buddy and we were truly dumbfounded and laughing our asses off at how amazingly good Salzburg was playing. And then that wondergoal (3-0), amazing. I'm still somewhat shell-shocked at how good they were in that first half. Constant pressing, they destroyed us harder than Real Madrid did in the last few years. Not that we were playing well, but this was just pure and utter domination like no other team has done in recent memory. We just started watching a tv-show from the 65th minute, no use in watching more xD

Anyway, as for the question that was asked, yeah Ajax has some money, but they prefer to not buy players that don't raise the overall level of the team and they have a salary-cap. They prefer to invest a lot in youth development and just replace guys like Eriksen and Alderweireld with new talent from the youth division like Klaassen and Veldman (who both got pre-selected for the Netherlands - France friendly on 5th of March btw). They simply can't buy better players than they develop themselves, because they're simply not affordable. They might pick up some talents this summer though. 17 year old big talent from Groningen (Zivkovic) will likely sign for Ajax and Ziyech from Heerenveen, also big talent, is linked with a move to Ajax.

Yeah historically they're a big team, but nowadays with a budget of around €70m you can't just buy together a squad (which wouldn't work anyway). I prefer the way they're handling it. They just play in a good system (the Ajax system) with good positional play throughout the youth academy all the way up to the first team, so every player from the youth division can seemingly just enter the first team and play ball. This is also why a lot of talents choose Ajax (for less money) over a big club in England etc.


Yeah kinda sucks that dutch clubs are in small markets, maybe one day long after we are gone you will get your sugar daddies

Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
February 21 2014 07:00 GMT
#2275
On February 21 2014 09:16 Twisted wrote:
lol man we got sooo owned. I was watching with a buddy and we were truly dumbfounded and laughing our asses off at how amazingly good Salzburg was playing. And then that wondergoal (3-0), amazing. I'm still somewhat shell-shocked at how good they were in that first half. Constant pressing, they destroyed us harder than Real Madrid did in the last few years. Not that we were playing well, but this was just pure and utter domination like no other team has done in recent memory. We just started watching a tv-show from the 65th minute, no use in watching more xD

Anyway, as for the question that was asked, yeah Ajax has some money, but they prefer to not buy players that don't raise the overall level of the team and they have a salary-cap. They prefer to invest a lot in youth development and just replace guys like Eriksen and Alderweireld with new talent from the youth division like Klaassen and Veldman (who both got pre-selected for the Netherlands - France friendly on 5th of March btw). They simply can't buy better players than they develop themselves, because they're simply not affordable. They might pick up some talents this summer though. 17 year old big talent from Groningen (Zivkovic) will likely sign for Ajax and Ziyech from Heerenveen, also big talent, is linked with a move to Ajax.

Yeah historically they're a big team, but nowadays with a budget of around €70m you can't just buy together a squad (which wouldn't work anyway). I prefer the way they're handling it. They just play in a good system (the Ajax system) with good positional play throughout the youth academy all the way up to the first team, so every player from the youth division can seemingly just enter the first team and play ball. This is also why a lot of talents choose Ajax (for less money) over a big club in England etc.


Told you
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 21 2014 07:56 GMT
#2276
On February 21 2014 13:16 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 09:16 Twisted wrote:
lol man we got sooo owned. I was watching with a buddy and we were truly dumbfounded and laughing our asses off at how amazingly good Salzburg was playing. And then that wondergoal (3-0), amazing. I'm still somewhat shell-shocked at how good they were in that first half. Constant pressing, they destroyed us harder than Real Madrid did in the last few years. Not that we were playing well, but this was just pure and utter domination like no other team has done in recent memory. We just started watching a tv-show from the 65th minute, no use in watching more xD

Anyway, as for the question that was asked, yeah Ajax has some money, but they prefer to not buy players that don't raise the overall level of the team and they have a salary-cap. They prefer to invest a lot in youth development and just replace guys like Eriksen and Alderweireld with new talent from the youth division like Klaassen and Veldman (who both got pre-selected for the Netherlands - France friendly on 5th of March btw). They simply can't buy better players than they develop themselves, because they're simply not affordable. They might pick up some talents this summer though. 17 year old big talent from Groningen (Zivkovic) will likely sign for Ajax and Ziyech from Heerenveen, also big talent, is linked with a move to Ajax.

Yeah historically they're a big team, but nowadays with a budget of around €70m you can't just buy together a squad (which wouldn't work anyway). I prefer the way they're handling it. They just play in a good system (the Ajax system) with good positional play throughout the youth academy all the way up to the first team, so every player from the youth division can seemingly just enter the first team and play ball. This is also why a lot of talents choose Ajax (for less money) over a big club in England etc.


Yeah kinda sucks that dutch clubs are in small markets, maybe one day long after we are gone you will get your sugar daddies


Isn't there a limit to how much sugar daddy money Red Bull can pour into Salzburg with the FFP regulations?
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
February 21 2014 08:30 GMT
#2277
On February 21 2014 16:56 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 13:16 Rebs wrote:
On February 21 2014 09:16 Twisted wrote:
lol man we got sooo owned. I was watching with a buddy and we were truly dumbfounded and laughing our asses off at how amazingly good Salzburg was playing. And then that wondergoal (3-0), amazing. I'm still somewhat shell-shocked at how good they were in that first half. Constant pressing, they destroyed us harder than Real Madrid did in the last few years. Not that we were playing well, but this was just pure and utter domination like no other team has done in recent memory. We just started watching a tv-show from the 65th minute, no use in watching more xD

Anyway, as for the question that was asked, yeah Ajax has some money, but they prefer to not buy players that don't raise the overall level of the team and they have a salary-cap. They prefer to invest a lot in youth development and just replace guys like Eriksen and Alderweireld with new talent from the youth division like Klaassen and Veldman (who both got pre-selected for the Netherlands - France friendly on 5th of March btw). They simply can't buy better players than they develop themselves, because they're simply not affordable. They might pick up some talents this summer though. 17 year old big talent from Groningen (Zivkovic) will likely sign for Ajax and Ziyech from Heerenveen, also big talent, is linked with a move to Ajax.

Yeah historically they're a big team, but nowadays with a budget of around €70m you can't just buy together a squad (which wouldn't work anyway). I prefer the way they're handling it. They just play in a good system (the Ajax system) with good positional play throughout the youth academy all the way up to the first team, so every player from the youth division can seemingly just enter the first team and play ball. This is also why a lot of talents choose Ajax (for less money) over a big club in England etc.


Yeah kinda sucks that dutch clubs are in small markets, maybe one day long after we are gone you will get your sugar daddies


Isn't there a limit to how much sugar daddy money Red Bull can pour into Salzburg with the FFP regulations?


Salzburgs squad is worth 50 Mio. € atm, thats not a lot compared to other european teams like Ajax e.g.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 21 2014 09:56 GMT
#2278
On February 21 2014 07:35 warding wrote:
Porto fans have been feeling a bit unhappy about their team lately. Do check out Quaresma's goal though. He's back to his old form.
[image loading]


Quaresma never was world class. He had the potential but he just didnt get there. unfortunately hes more or less average
hatred outlives the hateful
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
February 21 2014 10:11 GMT
#2279
When at Sporting, many people thought he was going to be a better player than C.Ronaldo. Somehow he's been at Barcelona, Chelsea and Inter.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 21 2014 10:29 GMT
#2280
You never are 100% sure how a player develops, talent alone isn't enough. The mental aspect of the player, coaching staff and injuries are all things that can make or break a player. Here at Feyenoord we have a player that was praised by Michel Platini as one of the most gifted players of his generation when he won the youth championship and now he can hardly make an impact at Arminia Bielefeld as a loanee.
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