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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 21:53:11
February 19 2014 21:50 GMT
#2161
That is so disappointing. Arsenal could have put a rope around the neck of the best team in Europe, but they didn't take their chances. They really need to find someone else to take penalties when Arteta isn't around. I know that Özil is the designated second penalty taker, but he's probably a bad choice for this match considering that he and Neuer were teammates at Schalke and with the German national team...

I'm really happy for Sanogo. In eight months he went from Ligue 2 to starting in the knockout stage of the Champions League against the reigning champions.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 19 2014 21:54 GMT
#2162
I would like to see a replay of the penalty for Arsenal, in the only one I've seen it looked like Özil was offside
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 22:03:28
February 19 2014 21:56 GMT
#2163
On February 20 2014 06:54 clusen wrote:
I would like to see a replay of the penalty for Arsenal, in the only one I've seen it looked like Özil was offside


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Edit: "Missit Özil" T_T
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 19 2014 21:57 GMT
#2164
Atletico beat milan 0-1 in italy as expected.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
PooLsharK
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany179 Posts
February 19 2014 22:08 GMT
#2165


Edit: "Missit Özil" T_T


Ba Dum Tisssss
Dang ol' pretty pretty pizza
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 19 2014 22:10 GMT
#2166
I dont know how people found that game to be boring or bad. It was much better than Barca vs City in my opinion.

Ofc Arsenal had no chance after one man down. As a matter of fact if it ended 0:1 instead of 0:2 they might still have had a good shot at it.

0:2 on the other hand is probably game over ..

Atletico was very bad btw..

They will not make it vs any other team except miland imo..

But who knows..
hatred outlives the hateful
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 22:46:22
February 19 2014 22:44 GMT
#2167
poor Milan were the better team but still lost
On February 20 2014 06:57 Steveling wrote:
Atletico beat milan 0-1 in italy as expected.

Atletico were quite unimpressive judging from the highlights,
On February 20 2014 06:56 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 06:54 clusen wrote:
I would like to see a replay of the penalty for Arsenal, in the only one I've seen it looked like Özil was offside


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Edit: "Missit Özil" T_T

The situation leading up to the penalty looked like offside to me, too.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 19 2014 22:46 GMT
#2168
Yeah thats the difference when you have a good inform striker. Costa pops up and they go back to Madrid with a HUGE advantage.
Milan i also heard were unlucky. Mr Kaka being a pretty star of the show i heard. Hitting the bar ;o
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
February 19 2014 22:53 GMT
#2169
i found the game amazing. Götze, Kroos, Lahm, Neuer(!) really great performance.
it was sad that the ref had to give a red for a unfortunate situation.
many great plays though, especially Kroos chipping the ball over the defense 2 times.

i dont think its over at all. Arsenal will probably need 3 goals but thats very well possible.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 19 2014 22:59 GMT
#2170
arghghghghghghghghghghh goddamnit I am so mad.

Started so good and then a fucking red.

bah
Twoflowers
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany241 Posts
February 19 2014 23:21 GMT
#2171
On February 20 2014 05:03 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 05:00 smr wrote:
On February 20 2014 04:57 sharkie wrote:
On February 20 2014 04:56 NuclearJudas wrote:
I've been told Özil is actually a great penalty taker, but he's missed every one I've seen so far. Can anyone who's followed him in Germany and Spain weigh in?


Ozil is not a good penalty taker, in fact there are so few good penalty takers in German team nowadays. It's pretty sad.


The only one I can think about right now would be Hummels. He shot a few and most of them have been really good. I always thought it was because as a defender he absolutely does not care if he looked good shooting.

Neuer has never missed a pen I think!

+ Show Spoiler +
I think he only shot one so far tho :D


Iirc he scored some penalties in his time at Schalke.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 23:24:34
February 19 2014 23:24 GMT
#2172
Maybe they should change the rules indeed? Just a yellow? Or no red if its the goalkeeper? Dont know..

I mean the rule makes sense but then again its pretty devastating..

hatred outlives the hateful
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
February 19 2014 23:29 GMT
#2173
On February 20 2014 08:24 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Maybe they should change the rules indeed? Just a yellow? Or no red if its the goalkeeper? Dont know..

I mean the rule makes sense but then again its pretty devastating..



The rule is brutal but makes a lot of sense.. imho yellow + one goal on the board, no penalty, would be much better for the remaining game
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4009 Posts
February 19 2014 23:59 GMT
#2174
We discussed this here as well, we decided that it might be best:
- if inside the box, penalty is given, but whether it's a card depends on the challenge (if light and scoring position, yellow, if heavy/dangerous, red)
- outside the box, like before (red for a clear scoring chance, yellow for breaking a counter)
But rules like this could cause a defender to wait making the challenge until inside the box, which would just be funny. Time punishment is coming!
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 02:31:00
February 20 2014 02:08 GMT
#2175
On February 20 2014 08:29 graan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 08:24 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Maybe they should change the rules indeed? Just a yellow? Or no red if its the goalkeeper? Dont know..

I mean the rule makes sense but then again its pretty devastating..



The rule is brutal but makes a lot of sense.. imho yellow + one goal on the board, no penalty, would be much better for the remaining game

People don't want to see free goals awarded, they want to see the ball actually go in. Really, I don't even understand why this is being argued, it's not like we haven't seen what happens without this rule. The rule was changed maybe 20-25 years ago, anyone old enough will remember, it was and is a very very good change.

If fans don't want to see these kind of cards, then coaches should tell their players to be a bit more careful when they're the last man.

By the way, if those of you who are younger haven't seen what the game was like in general, before FIFA said "enough is enough" and decided to change the rules to protect attacking players for the good of the game. Here's a little reminder:



In this game Gentile committed 23 fouls against Maradona, with many more that weren't called. All he got was a yellow card.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 07:42:51
February 20 2014 06:41 GMT
#2176
I don´t understand the subs from Wenger. What is the point of keeping Özil in if the plan after the red card was clearly to park the bus. Defending is just not Özils thing and he is also not the type of player for short handed counter attack situations.
Instead he subbed Oxlade-Chamberlain, the fastest guy Arsenal has from what i know.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 08:42:13
February 20 2014 08:40 GMT
#2177
On February 20 2014 11:08 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 08:29 graan wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:24 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Maybe they should change the rules indeed? Just a yellow? Or no red if its the goalkeeper? Dont know..

I mean the rule makes sense but then again its pretty devastating..



The rule is brutal but makes a lot of sense.. imho yellow + one goal on the board, no penalty, would be much better for the remaining game

People don't want to see free goals awarded, they want to see the ball actually go in. Really, I don't even understand why this is being argued, it's not like we haven't seen what happens without this rule. The rule was changed maybe 20-25 years ago, anyone old enough will remember, it was and is a very very good change.

If fans don't want to see these kind of cards, then coaches should tell their players to be a bit more careful when they're the last man.

By the way, if those of you who are younger haven't seen what the game was like in general, before FIFA said "enough is enough" and decided to change the rules to protect attacking players for the good of the game. Here's a little reminder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk1iRg4Xt-M

In this game Gentile committed 23 fouls against Maradona, with many more that weren't called. All he got was a yellow card.


The red card + penalty has nothing to do with protecting attacking players, a reckless challenge is a reckless challenge and is a red card regardless of position. The red card rule for a goalscoring opportunity was introduced to prevent defenders or goalkeepers from taking out a player who was bound for goal. The corresponding penalty however is only a
consequence of the position where the foul is being committed, there is no different rule.

I personally would much rather have a goal awarded btw. People do not want to see free goals, but they do not want to see a potentially great match ruined by a red card + penalty. A free goal is the lesser of two evils.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 20 2014 08:53 GMT
#2178
On February 20 2014 08:29 graan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 08:24 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Maybe they should change the rules indeed? Just a yellow? Or no red if its the goalkeeper? Dont know..

I mean the rule makes sense but then again its pretty devastating..



The rule is brutal but makes a lot of sense.. imho yellow + one goal on the board, no penalty, would be much better for the remaining game


I don't understand how awarding a goal if the ball never made it past the line could ever be an acceptable thought.
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
February 20 2014 09:09 GMT
#2179
I don't see why it needs to be a free goal. A penalty is probably a higher success rate than a 1 on 1 with a keeper on a breakaway with defenders closing in behind, that's a guess though. It should be a penalty and a yellow card, only red if it's reckless.

To those who disliked the game so much though can I ask why? You don't like seeing one team completely dominate, or one team "park the bus" and defend for their lives? I think the defensive mindset and playing down a man made for an enthralling match. In these matches I find myself more drawn to watching the defense maintain their shape and put in a crazy physical shift.

It was still some of the best quality football in the world.
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
February 20 2014 09:10 GMT
#2180
On February 20 2014 17:53 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 08:29 graan wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:24 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Maybe they should change the rules indeed? Just a yellow? Or no red if its the goalkeeper? Dont know..

I mean the rule makes sense but then again its pretty devastating..



The rule is brutal but makes a lot of sense.. imho yellow + one goal on the board, no penalty, would be much better for the remaining game


I don't understand how awarding a goal if the ball never made it past the line could ever be an acceptable thought.

I'd award a goal only in a situation like when Suarez stopped the ball with his hand against Ghana.
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