EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 778
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Greg_J
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/22/jurgen-klopp-job-manchester-united-moyes-borussia-dortmund And all the doomsayers who rant about Dortmund going down should read this: Strong financial growth over the course of the last three years has seen their turnover rise to €256m in 2012-13, a figure that puts them ahead of Premier League teams such as Liverpool (€240m) and Tottenham Hotspur (€172m). The financial rise of Dortmund has just begun. | ||
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zeo
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On April 22 2014 20:30 Maenander wrote: To end the discussion about Klopp taking the Manchester job: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/22/jurgen-klopp-job-manchester-united-moyes-borussia-dortmund And all the doomsayers who rant about Dortmund going down should read this: The financial rise of Dortmund has just begun. obviously as a club who got into the champions league finals their turnover is going to be pretty good. besides that , watzke is really doing an excellent job, focussing on a stable financial foundation instead of going for short term results | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Breaking News...a while ago Sorry was watching Pro League  | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Jurgen Klopp has ruled himself out of the Manchester United job. The Borussia Dortmund manager was quickly installed among the Sky Bet favourites to succeed David Moyes, sacked on Tuesday after less than a year in charge. But Klopp signed a new deal at Dortmund as recently as October and is committed to the Bundesliga club until 2018. And in the hours after Moyes' exit was confirmed Klopp, quoted in The Guardian, said he will not break that contract. "Manchester United is a great club and I feel very familiar with their wonderful fans," he told the newspaper, "but my commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable." Source | ||
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SatedSC2
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:04 Kleinmuuhg wrote: obviously as a club who got into the champions league finals their turnover is going to be pretty good. besides that , watzke is really doing an excellent job, focussing on a stable financial foundation instead of going for short term results No one is saying Dortmund is doomed. The thing is they are not (consistently) elite and they will not in the next years but it is even on purpose. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:48 Micro_Jackson wrote: No one is saying Dortmund is doomed. The thing is they are not (consistently) elite and they will not in the next years but it is even on purpose. Is top 10 in Europe not elite enough? No one can expect them to become Bayern, Barca or Real over night. Despite some setbacks and injury problems this season they reached the cup-final and the quarter finals of the CL and they'll probably finish in 2nd place in the BL. | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:55 Maenander wrote: Is top 10 in Europe not elite enough? No one can expect them to become Bayern, Barca or Real over night. Despite some setbacks and injury problems this season they reached the cup-final and the quarter finals of the CL and they'll probably finish in 2nd place in the BL. Personally i rate elite or not elite not only on pure results, i rate it more on the overall attitude of the club. Elite means for me that a team wants to win everything every season and has the mindset for it. Take the German national team they most likely have the best balanced roster but are still not elite due to their stupid attitude. Dortmund stated many times that they are fine with their current state. Also Götze and Levandoski showed that the players think that too. And please dont start this "they did it for the money" thing again, if this would be true, they would be playing for PSG or in Quatar. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On April 22 2014 22:16 Micro_Jackson wrote: Personally i rate elite or not elite not only on pure results, i rate it more on the overall attitude of the club. Elite means for me that a team wants to win everything every season and has the mindset for it. Take the German national team they most likely have the best balanced roster but are still not elite due to their stupid attitude. Dortmund stated many times that they are fine with their current state. Also Götze and Levandoski showed that the players think that too. And please dont start this "they did it for the money" thing again, if this would be true, they would be playing for PSG or in Quatar. If the German National Team is not elite than no national team is. That statement of yours is nonsense, imo. BvB is not the a very top (there are FcB, RM, FCBarcelona maybe 1 or 2 english clubs) but definitely top 10. Easily. So i guess one could say they are european elite. | ||
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Greg_J
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On April 22 2014 22:43 Greg_J wrote: Dortmund have consistently had the largest attendance in the world and have amazing atmosphere in their stadium. I guess it is only results and brand recognition that makes them not elite. The fact that they are Fixed ;_; | ||
GTR
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Salteador Neo
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http://estaticos.sport.es/resources/jpg/3/0/20140422-1398101866703.jpg The last 2 are especially fun IMO. The text reads "Atlético-Real: Against Madrid we would even support the devil... ATLÉTICO" "Chelsea-Real. As said, we would support the devil. FORÇA MOU!!!" | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
This has been long needed in Korean soccer. I watched a Asian Champions League game today wondering whether I should really be supporting the Korean team over the Japanese team when Japanese football is in so much better health. Korea needs more clubs badly, especially in the Gyeonggi and capital region. there's somegood positives like the company saying they want a Seattle Sounders/Western Sydney/Dortmund approach to a fan driven football club. Which is important in Korea where there is far too much corporate involvement and teams jumping from city to city building hatred rather than loyalty in their fan basses is common. Korea also has problems with a few of the soccer clubs been religious based and this alienating the vast majority of local potential fans who are not christian (its always the Christians). Unfortunately the conglomerate has traditional Christian links and has been accused of forcing its employers to attend religious events in the past. It definitely has a religious lean but has announced this won't effect the new team at all. Fingers crossed, we don't need to have two Seoul teams and have everyone in Seoul hate one for moving around and leaving Anyang and everyone hate the other for having a religious agendure. Anyway Seoul needs a new team. lets hope this is the team they have been waiting for. There's no announcement about names or colours or anything that's all going to be decided by fan polls. I personally like Olympic Seoul or Olympic Jamsil since they're playing in Jamsil Olympic Stadium and all. Hopefully they won't go with anything involving the bordering district of Gangnam and try and cash in on that. I think Koreans are sick of that and it would surely piss of Jamsil residents to be named after the neighboring district. They will be joining the second tier of football the 'K league Challanege' which unbelievably expanded from just 8 teams to 10 last year. I say expanded they just relegated 3 from the first tier and only let one up. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10006 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:35 Pandemona wrote: Jurgen Klopp has ruled himself out of the Manchester United job. The Borussia Dortmund manager was quickly installed among the Sky Bet favourites to succeed David Moyes, sacked on Tuesday after less than a year in charge. But Klopp signed a new deal at Dortmund as recently as October and is committed to the Bundesliga club until 2018. And in the hours after Moyes' exit was confirmed Klopp, quoted in The Guardian, said he will not break that contract. "Manchester United is a great club and I feel very familiar with their wonderful fans," he told the newspaper, "but my commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable." Source I hope he's being honest, Loyalty, and respecting one's commitments and contracts is a rare quality in football nowadays, and one that's often looked upon as 'naive'. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_South_Korean_football_betting_scandal On April 22 2014 23:16 Jockmcplop wrote: I hope he's being honest, Loyalty, and respecting one's commitments and contracts is a rare quality in football nowadays, and one that's often looked upon as 'naive'. Indeed, managers do not get the time they deserve. Neville is pounding home that message in all his interviews at the moment. An average tenure for a football manager (not sure if was in world football or Europe or even justs Premier league) is 12months. That is shocking, who wants a job for 12 months to then be searching for a new one. No chance of getting any structure in place or actually having a good go at things. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On April 22 2014 23:17 Pandemona wrote: I wasn't in Korea around the time of the corruption trouble so I don't know how much it affected things. But I think it was one of the prime reasons they finally bought around a much needed proper league system with relegation and promotion. It stops the clubs at the bottom having nothing to play for for half the season at least.Isn't there another big factor...corruption in Korean football is overwhelming? Didn't a massive purge only hit a lot of them last year? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_South_Korean_football_betting_scandal The prime reason for the lack of clubs is that there's only a few really powerful companies in Korea and they all have a club already. These companies pump a lot of money into their clubs so its very hard for any community supported teams to come about and compete. With pretty low attendances and a relatively quite high standard of football bought about by the conglomerates pumping money into their teams It's just to hard for new clubs to come about and compete. At least thats my understanding. | ||
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