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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 21 2014 22:11 GMT
#15501
Oh and for the comparison between LVG and Mourinho. They both have illusions of grandeur and they basically think that they both have got the midas touch, but at least LVG only talks about himself (to the ridiculous degree, often in third person, usually talking about how great he is and which prizes he has won so far, which is hilarious in its own right). He's always respectful to his colleagues in the football world though. He'd never stir up shit in the media with other teams/managers. Only thing he does is arguing with the press that they're asking stupid questions.
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Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
April 21 2014 22:17 GMT
#15502
I think LvG did a good job at Bayern and helped set a path to future success for them. Ultimately he was not good enough for Bayern's ambitions and got sacked but he did a great job stabilizing that team in short order. It's always impressive to get to the CL final and be on the brink of a treble. That's why I think he'd be a decent stopgap for United until a long term triple A coach becomes available (they botched it so badly with Moyes with basically every good coach available haha...).

Anyways, Moyes will be sacked on Tuesday according to the guardian so that's that.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18710 Posts
April 21 2014 22:20 GMT
#15503
Van Gaal would be my number one choice to build up a team.
What he did with Bayern was so impressive. Also he discovered Müller. ^^

Müller is the perfect total football player. Do the Dutch love him btw?
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
April 21 2014 22:26 GMT
#15504
On April 22 2014 06:44 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 06:41 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:30 Pik wrote:
I remember how LVG let Bayern play, ugh... i dont know if United wants to keep playing like Yawnited...

I think they should definitely go for a modern coach espescially now that the team needs new players anyway. Time to start something completely new.


Bayern wouldn´t be there were they are now without Van Gaal. And he made it to the CL final with these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

wow, what a terrible roster(!).

This roster probably better than today's roster lol. Young Schweingsteiger+Lahm+Robben, and Altintop, who was better than Ribery in his prime.


Well äh no.
The only players that were called elite at that time were Ribery, Lahm and Müller, who was 20 i think? Badstuber is a inner CB, Demichelis wasnt faster then he is now, Van Buyten needed a 10 square meters to turn around and my mom could outrun Van Bommel.

The only position which was then better tan now is at Goalkeeper, man Hans-Jörg Butt is just an awesome dude. I mean "made the most goals in CL history on his position"(i think), how many players can say that?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18710 Posts
April 21 2014 22:35 GMT
#15505
On April 22 2014 05:07 Twoflowers wrote:
1. FC Köln - the first Bundesliga champion - is back in the Bundesliga, 50 years after their first championship. Viva Colonia!


Finally Patrick Helmes is back in the Bundesliga. He had such a promising career before his injuries

He was a goalscorer beast in Football manager, heading machine!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
April 21 2014 22:36 GMT
#15506
On April 22 2014 07:26 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 06:44 Mensol wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:41 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:30 Pik wrote:
I remember how LVG let Bayern play, ugh... i dont know if United wants to keep playing like Yawnited...

I think they should definitely go for a modern coach espescially now that the team needs new players anyway. Time to start something completely new.


Bayern wouldn´t be there were they are now without Van Gaal. And he made it to the CL final with these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

wow, what a terrible roster(!).

This roster probably better than today's roster lol. Young Schweingsteiger+Lahm+Robben, and Altintop, who was better than Ribery in his prime.


Well äh no.
The only players that were called elite at that time were Ribery, Lahm and Müller, who was 20 i think? Badstuber is a inner CB, Demichelis wasnt faster then he is now, Van Buyten needed a 10 square meters to turn around and my mom could outrun Van Bommel.

The only position which was then better tan now is at Goalkeeper, man Hans-Jörg Butt is just an awesome dude. I mean "made the most goals in CL history on his position"(i think), how many players can say that?


I guess 11?
or 6 or something
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Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
April 21 2014 22:41 GMT
#15507
On April 22 2014 07:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 07:26 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:44 Mensol wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:41 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:30 Pik wrote:
I remember how LVG let Bayern play, ugh... i dont know if United wants to keep playing like Yawnited...

I think they should definitely go for a modern coach espescially now that the team needs new players anyway. Time to start something completely new.


Bayern wouldn´t be there were they are now without Van Gaal. And he made it to the CL final with these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

wow, what a terrible roster(!).

This roster probably better than today's roster lol. Young Schweingsteiger+Lahm+Robben, and Altintop, who was better than Ribery in his prime.


Well äh no.
The only players that were called elite at that time were Ribery, Lahm and Müller, who was 20 i think? Badstuber is a inner CB, Demichelis wasnt faster then he is now, Van Buyten needed a 10 square meters to turn around and my mom could outrun Van Bommel.

The only position which was then better tan now is at Goalkeeper, man Hans-Jörg Butt is just an awesome dude. I mean "made the most goals in CL history on his position"(i think), how many players can say that?


I guess 11?
or 6 or something


Yea... thanks for pointing out my stupidity...

But to my defense some positions doesnt exist anymore.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6300 Posts
April 21 2014 22:55 GMT
#15508
On April 22 2014 07:20 sharkie wrote:
Van Gaal would be my number one choice to build up a team.
What he did with Bayern was so impressive. Also he discovered Müller. ^^

Müller is the perfect total football player. Do the Dutch love him btw?

He's German, we generally don't like Germans but yeah he's really good.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 21 2014 23:14 GMT
#15509
Schweinsteiger wasnt an elite? We are talking about 2010, right? Because im pretty sure that most of people called him one of the best in the world if not the best after EURO 2008.

I prefer Demichelis and Van Buyten over Dante&Boateng because they were much more stronger. Moreover, Van Buyten was quite good at set pieces, and Demichelis was quite good at these days lol.

On April 22 2014 07:04 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 06:44 Mensol wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:41 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:30 Pik wrote:
I remember how LVG let Bayern play, ugh... i dont know if United wants to keep playing like Yawnited...

I think they should definitely go for a modern coach espescially now that the team needs new players anyway. Time to start something completely new.


Bayern wouldn´t be there were they are now without Van Gaal. And he made it to the CL final with these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

wow, what a terrible roster(!).

This roster probably better than today's roster lol. Young Schweingsteiger+Lahm+Robben, and Altintop, who was better than Ribery in his prime.


You have to understand that a team like that has gotten better the past 4 years. All those players that still play now are leagues ahead of their counterpart 4 years ago. Back then no player in that squad was ever named as a contender for best player in the world. Schweinsteiger, Müller, Lahm have all gotten way better in the last 4 years. Now we've got people claiming half the starting formation could win the golden ball. Badstuber and Müller were just in their first year of first-team football for example. Robben basically won them everything that year on his own.

And Altintop? Nah, lol. Good player, but not as good as Ribery, and I think Ribery is currently the most overrated player in the world.

I understand what you mean but its not like they were no names. They played one CL quarter final and EURO final before CL final.

I can't argue about Altintop though.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 23:40:34
April 21 2014 23:33 GMT
#15510
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


I hated him since his first run with Porto,

I was rooting for Monaco so hard. Additionally I dont particularly like United either but the way that Porto team tugged everyones knickers all over the pitch those 2 legs cemented for Mou football and even more so his first lieutenant Ricardo.

On April 22 2014 07:04 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 06:44 Mensol wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:41 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On April 22 2014 06:30 Pik wrote:
I remember how LVG let Bayern play, ugh... i dont know if United wants to keep playing like Yawnited...

I think they should definitely go for a modern coach espescially now that the team needs new players anyway. Time to start something completely new.


Bayern wouldn´t be there were they are now without Van Gaal. And he made it to the CL final with these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

wow, what a terrible roster(!).

This roster probably better than today's roster lol. Young Schweingsteiger+Lahm+Robben, and Altintop, who was better than Ribery in his prime.


Robben basically won them everything that year on his own.
.

This. 2 rounds against Florentina and United he practically won by himself, that team got carried hard and would have been lucky to win the whole thing

Also that final was a perfect example of why the current 2 backs are way better than Demechelis + Van Buyten
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
April 21 2014 23:36 GMT
#15511
I mean I think that is still a great squad but.. prolly demichelis, van buyten, van bommel, and altintop have been swapped for better players, and müller is better than before, and there's imo not any position in that squad that is better than today
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 21 2014 23:44 GMT
#15512
Im not much of a fan of Marcotti but this piece was pretty spot on with what I have a problem with Mou antics

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/mondaymusings/id/973?cc=5901
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 22 2014 01:00 GMT
#15513
I can totally see Liverpool dropping points vs. Palace.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 22 2014 02:52 GMT
#15514
On April 22 2014 05:07 Twoflowers wrote:
1. FC Köln - the first Bundesliga champion - is back in the Bundesliga, 50 years after their first championship. Viva Colonia!


And Burnley have been promoted to the Premier League!
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Pik
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany176 Posts
April 22 2014 07:30 GMT
#15515
On April 22 2014 06:41 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 06:30 Pik wrote:
I remember how LVG let Bayern play, ugh... i dont know if United wants to keep playing like Yawnited...

I think they should definitely go for a modern coach espescially now that the team needs new players anyway. Time to start something completely new.


Bayern wouldn´t be there were they are now without Van Gaal. And he made it to the CL final with these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Would be very interesting to see because ManU does have like 3 players that can play a ball position system. And one of them is 40 years old .


Well my strongest memories of him are the toxic enviroment he created in the team and an ego beyond believe.
He made it to the finals, thats right. But the price was shity football to watch.
Even as a Bayern supporter i prefer good over successful football.
wow, this gank is gonna be easy....
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 22 2014 07:52 GMT
#15516
Breaking News....kinda

David Moyes Has Been Sacked



ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
April 22 2014 07:53 GMT
#15517
On April 22 2014 16:52 Pandemona wrote:
Breaking News....kinda

David Moyes Has Been Sacked

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/458508081039962112


s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 22 2014 07:57 GMT
#15518
On April 22 2014 16:52 Pandemona wrote:
Breaking News....kinda

David Moyes Has Been Sacked

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/458508081039962112


Why does Man Utd talk about themselves in the third person? Seems a bit weird, or is every football club like that on twitter?
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Akka
Profile Joined August 2010
France291 Posts
April 22 2014 08:01 GMT
#15519
Didn't they say they wanted a manager for a new dynasty or something? That was a very short dynasty.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 08:05:10
April 22 2014 08:04 GMT
#15520
On April 22 2014 16:57 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 16:52 Pandemona wrote:
Breaking News....kinda

David Moyes Has Been Sacked

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/458508081039962112


Why does Man Utd talk about themselves in the third person? Seems a bit weird, or is every football club like that on twitter?

press release are usually written in 3rd person.
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