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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 21 2012 22:17 GMT
#6221
Did pause ATG squats 5x for the first time. Boy are my legs tired, loved it.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
August 22 2012 01:36 GMT
#6222
On August 21 2012 15:30 phyre112 wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 11:37 MeShiet wrote:
On August 21 2012 11:33 decafchicken wrote:
Blah tweaked my ac joint this weekend playing rugby. I still managed to hit a 120 snatched and cj its just sooo annoying lifting through injuries. Also annoying when a high school volleyball, team is working out in the gym while you are -_-

I know how you feel decaf... freshman football players who just entered the university team -.-... I've got nothing against the sport itself but goddamn, why do the athletes have to be such assholes in the gym.


Unless you're saying "football" as in soccer, and the you mean the girls team I don't think this is the same team. Girls high school volleyball team would be (at least imo) the same problem I was having earlier this summer with the dual-membership between my gym and the dance studio next door. 16-19 year old girls in spandex and leg warmers. Not conducive to focus.

Err yeah lol sorry, I definitely meant American football. The girls in spandex thing doesn't bother me too much since I'm so weak they don't pay any attention to me anyway. Such a great advantage to have!... T_T
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
August 22 2012 04:19 GMT
#6223
Fucked up a fall in my martial arts class today and ate it right on my shoulder, messed it up pretty bad, gonna get it looked at tomorrow, this might set back my lifting for a while T.T
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 12:26:25
August 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#6224
very bad gym day!
think I fucked up my left kneecap last monday. couldnt do front squats or even leg press today because it was painful. even when I was using knee wraps the pain wouldnt go away (they helped a bit though)... guess I have to take a break from squatting for a while and hope it gets better.

also couldnt do OHP because my left arm hurts like a bitch again..

so I just did deadlifts and some stiff-legged deadlifts

this sucks
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
August 22 2012 11:56 GMT
#6225
On August 21 2012 19:49 kastoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 19:02 mcmartini wrote:
When going deep on squats past parallel someone pointed out today my lower back slightly curves. Is this primarily due to not lifting my chest enough and tightening my core or is it because I am trying to go too deep? My stance is a good shoulder width apart and my mate didn't notice anything at lower weights it was only during working sets. Any good helpful tips to avoid this as I am sure it's not a good thing?

Mobility of everything hips and below as well as keeping chest up will help resolve your problem more commonly known as butt-wink. Keeping the chest up is usually a combination of concentration and how you've loaded the bar on your back. Vids will help us assess. Also working on mobility is always good. I personally try and make sure my hips spend some time below the knees in a third world squat everyday to maintain hip mobility.
I have heard form some people that butt wink removes itself given enough training.
You don't want to avoid going deep. If going that deep causes joint pain, I'd rather you reduce weight and work on getting depth with a good form.

There is no joint pain in fact there is only what I would call slight discomfort even after heavy sets and it's normally alright after some stretching. I will try all of the things you guys said Chest higher focus more on staying straight and imagining sitting down i would give a video but not allowed to film in the gym I go to. Thanks for all the tips guys
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 22 2012 15:14 GMT
#6226
shit they sell rehband knee bands on amazon in japan, gonna order myself two

I feel like my current ones give too much when I squat
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#6227
Did power cleans yesterday, first time in months. I forgot how much they work the traps. I got reminded when I woke up today, damn they are sore. And my shoulders and collar bones are trashed But the workout was awesome!
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 22 2012 15:40 GMT
#6228
On August 23 2012 00:38 Necosarius wrote:
Did power cleans yesterday, first time in months. I forgot how much they work the traps. I got reminded when I woke up today, damn they are sore. And my shoulders and collar bones are trashed But the workout was awesome!



CLEANING LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER!

:D

AS I was doing my workout yesterday, people were behind me, mesmerized at the speed I was doing C&J with 60kg/70kg hahaha. So fun
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 23 2012 01:08 GMT
#6229
So curling in the squat rack, not cool. What about taking the barbell from the squat rack, to the nearby bench, and doing forearm curls with it? Oh and there were 2-3 barbells not in use on the floor ten feet away.

-.-
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Sparkle Motion
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada18 Posts
August 23 2012 01:18 GMT
#6230
Hi TL Fitness,

I'm starting lifting now and I was wondering if I could get a few opinions on a workout plan I put together:

Alternating A & B every other day)

Workout A:
Pull-Up: 3x8
Squat: 5x6
Over-head Press: 4x8
Deadlift: 3x8

Workout B:
Bench Press: 5x6
Push-Ups: 3xFailure
Squats: 5x6
Bent-Over Row: 5x6

Anything I should be changing/doing differently? Thanks!
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 23 2012 01:22 GMT
#6231
On August 23 2012 10:18 Sparkle Motion wrote:
Hi TL Fitness,

I'm starting lifting now and I was wondering if I could get a few opinions on a workout plan I put together:

Alternating A & B every other day)

Workout A:
Pull-Up: 3x8
Squat: 5x6
Over-head Press: 4x8
Deadlift: 3x8

Workout B:
Bench Press: 5x6
Push-Ups: 3xFailure
Squats: 5x6
Bent-Over Row: 5x6

Anything I should be changing/doing differently? Thanks!


Linear progression?

What are your goals?

What is your height/weight?

Is your diet in order?

Have you read the training sticky?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
August 23 2012 01:42 GMT
#6232
On August 23 2012 10:08 mordek wrote:
So curling in the squat rack, not cool. What about taking the barbell from the squat rack, to the nearby bench, and doing forearm curls with it? Oh and there were 2-3 barbells not in use on the floor ten feet away.

-.-

That's approximately the time I start throwing 20kg plates at people.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 23 2012 01:47 GMT
#6233
On August 23 2012 10:42 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 10:08 mordek wrote:
So curling in the squat rack, not cool. What about taking the barbell from the squat rack, to the nearby bench, and doing forearm curls with it? Oh and there were 2-3 barbells not in use on the floor ten feet away.

-.-

That's approximately the time I start throwing 20kg plates at people.


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Sparkle Motion
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada18 Posts
August 23 2012 01:54 GMT
#6234
On August 23 2012 10:22 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 10:18 Sparkle Motion wrote:
Hi TL Fitness,

I'm starting lifting now and I was wondering if I could get a few opinions on a workout plan I put together:

Alternating A & B every other day)

Workout A:
Pull-Up: 3x8
Squat: 5x6
Over-head Press: 4x8
Deadlift: 3x8

Workout B:
Bench Press: 5x6
Push-Ups: 3xFailure
Squats: 5x6
Bent-Over Row: 5x6

Anything I should be changing/doing differently? Thanks!


Linear progression?

What are your goals?

What is your height/weight?

Is your diet in order?

Have you read the training sticky?


I read everything in the starting post, but I don't exactly know what you mean by linear progression.

And I'm 19, 5'9, 163 lbs. My diet hasn't really been totally in order (fair amount of carbs from white/whole wheat bread and brown rice, sufficient protein, mostly good fats, plenty of vegetables)

I also don't know what a reasonable but challenging goal for myself is, other than to lower my body fat percentage (as for from what to what, I don't even know that, but I'm estimating to change from 14 to 8/9).
kastoob
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 02:16:48
August 23 2012 02:15 GMT
#6235
On August 23 2012 10:54 Sparkle Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 10:22 phyre112 wrote:
On August 23 2012 10:18 Sparkle Motion wrote:
Hi TL Fitness,

I'm starting lifting now and I was wondering if I could get a few opinions on a workout plan I put together:

Alternating A & B every other day)

Workout A:
Pull-Up: 3x8
Squat: 5x6
Over-head Press: 4x8
Deadlift: 3x8

Workout B:
Bench Press: 5x6
Push-Ups: 3xFailure
Squats: 5x6
Bent-Over Row: 5x6

Anything I should be changing/doing differently? Thanks!


Linear progression?

What are your goals?

What is your height/weight?

Is your diet in order?

Have you read the training sticky?


I read everything in the starting post, but I don't exactly know what you mean by linear progression.

And I'm 19, 5'9, 163 lbs. My diet hasn't really been totally in order (fair amount of carbs from white/whole wheat bread and brown rice, sufficient protein, mostly good fats, plenty of vegetables)

I also don't know what a reasonable but challenging goal for myself is, other than to lower my body fat percentage (as for from what to what, I don't even know that, but I'm estimating to change from 14 to 8/9).


Linear progression is just the simplest form of progression in strength training. In starting strength you increase the weight every session (squat is usually ~2.5kg DL ~5kg every session). There are more complex versions of progression where you periodically test your maxes, but those are for more advanced/intermediate guys.
New to training, not sure what to do? Just do Starting Strength. Read the book and you learn a thing or two about proper training regimes, and once you're done with that usually you have a better idea what's reasonable for a workout.
I prefer setting precise number goals if you want to become stronger, i.e just aim for: 1.5 x bw squat, 2 x bw deadlift, 1x bw bench. where bw = bodyweight. This might take 6-8ish months, longer if you don't want to put on fat.
If you want to lower your fat it would probably be good to:
1st priority Replace bad habits with better food choices.
2nd Log your calories (this will mean you will have to periodically weigh yourself and cook for yourself)
Sparkle Motion
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada18 Posts
August 23 2012 02:56 GMT
#6236
On August 23 2012 11:15 kastoob wrote:

Linear progression is just the simplest form of progression in strength training. In starting strength you increase the weight every session (squat is usually ~2.5kg DL ~5kg every session). There are more complex versions of progression where you periodically test your maxes, but those are for more advanced/intermediate guys.
New to training, not sure what to do? Just do Starting Strength. Read the book and you learn a thing or two about proper training regimes, and once you're done with that usually you have a better idea what's reasonable for a workout.
I prefer setting precise number goals if you want to become stronger, i.e just aim for: 1.5 x bw squat, 2 x bw deadlift, 1x bw bench. where bw = bodyweight. This might take 6-8ish months, longer if you don't want to put on fat.
If you want to lower your fat it would probably be good to:
1st priority Replace bad habits with better food choices.
2nd Log your calories (this will mean you will have to periodically weigh yourself and cook for yourself)


Thank you for the goal reference! That is super helpful. I have a long way to go haha.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
August 23 2012 05:06 GMT
#6237
bokeevboke

Height: 169 cm || Weight: 51kg
Snatch: no idea
Clean and Jerk: no idea
Bench: 40kg
Starting Date: 08/23/12 || Goal Date: 12/31/12
Goals:
Weight -- 64 kg.
Snatch: 1.5x
Clean and Jerk: 1.5x
Bench: 60kg

Want to be become powerful. A little fat is ok.
Its grack
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 23 2012 05:11 GMT
#6238
Just fyi, a 1.5x bodyweight snatch is seriously elite level, and a 1.5x bodyweight clean&jerk is pretty advanced too. Your bench goal looks reasonable at least.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 05:14:14
August 23 2012 05:13 GMT
#6239
On August 23 2012 14:11 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Just fyi, a 1.5x bodyweight snatch is seriously elite level, and a 1.5x bodyweight clean&jerk is pretty advanced too. Your bench goal looks reasonable at least.

Oh, its not 1.5 x bodyweight, its 1.5x of what I can do now. Considering I've never done it, after some learning technique I guess I can do 1.2x/1.3x.
Its grack
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
August 23 2012 05:38 GMT
#6240
On August 23 2012 14:13 bokeevboke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 14:11 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Just fyi, a 1.5x bodyweight snatch is seriously elite level, and a 1.5x bodyweight clean&jerk is pretty advanced too. Your bench goal looks reasonable at least.

Oh, its not 1.5 x bodyweight, its 1.5x of what I can do now. Considering I've never done it, after some learning technique I guess I can do 1.2x/1.3x.

Take a look in the Olympic weightlifting thread dimsum was kind enough to write up for us. Tons of good advice in there for starting off with and just learning some of the available theories to weightlifting. Will you have someone to teach you? If not, don't hesitate to try and get some videos for us to see and try to help you out with. The longer you wait, the more bad habits you'll develop and those are much harder to fix than they are to avoid all together.
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