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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
I realized it'll be useless to just ask without telling what my current situation is and my goal. I'm 5'11 145lbs and not strong but also not weak due to doing sports in school. I went to gym yesterday to gauge where I was at and I could do 135lb x 10 of bench press, squats, and deadlifts without too much trouble. I'm looking to get stronger and a little big bigger as my build right now is quiet lanky. Thanks all! | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
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rEiGN~
369 Posts
@SiZ.FaNtAsY: ignore any program that doesn't mostly consist of compound exercises. SS is a good one. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
lol obviously. this will be my signature in the future: ![[image loading]](http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/e05ddf60574606562061562fec498be1.png) | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On March 07 2012 17:38 Osmoses wrote: First day back in the gym since I got sick. Turns out I'd lost another kg during my bout with the flu. Guessing most of that was muscle though, felt pretty weak, had to deload 10kg from previous max in squat, bench and dead. Still, I'm back, gonna get back on the grind and build my way up again. good man. ur gonna feel weak first sesh back anyway | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On March 07 2012 18:15 GoTuNk! wrote: lol I can't sleep 6 hours straight for shit,I keep waking up in the middle of the night after 3 hours, and then I get 2 more hors of sleep before I wake up again. i get that too, took to going to bed early and just going back to sleep every time asap (read: lying there for another hour in darkness). its alright for me coz i dont do 9-5s, only mostly 2-8s which (theoretically) gives me plennnty of time to live an awesome life (*rolls eyes*) if you're eating/drinking a lot then i think waking up is pretty inevitable (maybe you adapt to it eventually) coz you need to pee after a while. its the waking up 3-5 times in one night that really pisses with me | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On March 07 2012 18:27 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote: Hi guys I'm basically starting to work out and I've read the SL book and parts of SS book. But I'm really interested in this guy's program too http://scoobysworkshop.com/. What do you think would be the best? Thanks all! I realized it'll be useless to just ask without telling what my current situation is and my goal. I'm 5'11 145lbs and not strong but also not weak due to doing sports in school. I went to gym yesterday to gauge where I was at and I could do 135lb x 10 of bench press, squats, and deadlifts without too much trouble. I'm looking to get stronger and a little big bigger as my build right now is quiet lanky. Thanks all! That beginner program looks very ineffective. Starting strength or strong lifts will be considerably more effective at building strength. Also, what sport did you do at school that allows you to do a bodyweight bench press for ten reps on your first try? On March 07 2012 20:21 FFGenerations wrote: i get that too, took to going to bed early and just going back to sleep every time asap (read: lying there for another hour in darkness). its alright for me coz i dont do 9-5s, only mostly 2-8s which (theoretically) gives me plennnty of time to live an awesome life (*rolls eyes*) if you're eating/drinking a lot then i think waking up is pretty inevitable (maybe you adapt to it eventually) coz you need to pee after a while. its the waking up 3-5 times in one night that really pisses with me I'm lucky to have a very flexible schedule, so my sleeping strategy is to stay awake until I'm tired enough to pass out, then go to sleep. It usually allows me to sleep like a log. Occasionally I get into a cycle where I go to sleep an hour later every night which ends up with me going to sleep at 7AM after a week or two. Even so, staying awake until I'm properly tired has always helped me with sleep  | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
feel constantly latent/dazed/weak, its either coz im wanking too much or coz ive been smoking, or maybe latent lifestyle/emotional dullness. got 2 cigarettes left AND NOT GONNA BUY ANYMORE AGAIN AM I GEEZ and not gonna wank for a while to see if that helps lol. and do some freakin work today to help my emotional state! im pretty sure smoking seriously fucks with your ability to intake oxygen, my breathing during lifts has been really awful/erratic/insufficient after i quit then started a bit again - even when i can do another rep physically, i cant get the oxygen in, and give up! | ||
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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
On March 07 2012 20:21 FFGenerations wrote: Have you guys considered getting sleeping pills? (or bear tranquilizers!!)i get that too, took to going to bed early and just going back to sleep every time asap (read: lying there for another hour in darkness). its alright for me coz i dont do 9-5s, only mostly 2-8s which (theoretically) gives me plennnty of time to live an awesome life (*rolls eyes*) if you're eating/drinking a lot then i think waking up is pretty inevitable (maybe you adapt to it eventually) coz you need to pee after a while. its the waking up 3-5 times in one night that really pisses with me | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On March 07 2012 23:57 Kamais Ookin wrote: Have you guys considered getting sleeping pills? (or bear tranquilizers!!) I've thought they were not so good, they're good for breaking a cycle of not being able to sleep but shouldn't be used regularly. At least that's what it said on the pack. I think it was something like you become dependent on them. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On March 07 2012 17:15 Kamais Ookin wrote: You're an Ultralisk of a man, why didn't you compete?! I'm still 5-10kg away from qualifying for nationals. If the #s stay the same ill make it easy next year. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
i think im not eating enough maybe, i stopped paying such close attention lately and have been having tons of veg+fish rather than rice and stopped the chocolate mostly, so i think im not getting enough of everything. i done one decent set of bench press today then my eyes already started closing/feeling heavy and the rest of the sets were total fail. (i didnt do squat today coz done it yesterday then went home coz of similar weariness suddenly setting in) anyway it was still good coz i got people to spot me to failure anyway, and next time is 2 plate deadlift edit: oh whoops i done an extra 5kg on deadlift today by mistake haha oh well (i went 8-5-5) | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
The arnolds was a very cool experience! I met decaf and we watched the 53kg womens class...which was disappointing without the top women competing. (All the top women are put into the olympic trials in another session.) Thursday I flew out to Ohio and checked my weight right away. I was 63.1kg, which was a little high (I think I was eating a little too good the last week lol) I ate some celery and carrots and then alternated hot tub and pool for an hour. Afterwards I checked my weight on a teammate's scale and i was 63.7! My teammate gave me some quick tips and I headed straight to look for a sauna. The front desk directed me to a ymca 3 blocks away which I spent the next two hours losing .5kg lol. I woke up in the morning and went to the official scale and I was 62.2. Then I was forced to put on all my sweats and sat in the sauna for another hour. The temperature of the sauna was only 140F which is probably why it took so long.... At the weigh in, I went LAST which was fucking annoying since I wanted to eat really bad. The warm up room was very cramped( I should of taken a picture.) I felt pretty good after rehydrating and eating and warmed up fine. Another coach from my team worked with me, since my coach was busy with another lifter. He noticed I start too upright which causes me to loop the bar a little. There was no time to fix it so I just snatched normally. First attempt at 87 I smoked. The next jump to 91 I looped a tad, and the same with 92kg. My coach made good adjustments to my attempts since I'm not sure if I would of made more than 92. So I ended my snatch session with two prs (91 and 92). Clean and jerks is when I realized how sitting in a sauna for 3 hours will affect a person haha. My warmups were getting a little sluggish once I was getting to the top weight. My first attempt(108kg) felt a lot harder, but I made it fine. Which I then told my coach and he made my next attempt only 111. The bar felt super heavy off the ground and I caught the bar a little low on my right shoulder. I readjusted for the jerk and made it cleanly. Third attempt was 113. I absolutely smoked the clean! I went to set up for the jerk and thought to power jerk it. Bad decision since when I think to power jerk, my feet get a little too wide. I felt the bar move a little forward as I got it overhead and lost it.... 2/3 attempts made with two more prs. At the end I was a little disappointed I spent too much time cutting weight and my last missed attempt. I learned alot and will definitely do better next time. | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:36 AoN.DimSum wrote: Nationals update Thursday I flew out to Ohio... Wait. The arnold's was in Ohio?! And I missed it? Grrr. But congrats on the PRs and the lift. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:36 AoN.DimSum wrote: Nationals update The arnolds was a very cool experience! I met decaf and we watched the 53kg womens class...which was disappointing without the top women competing. (All the top women are put into the olympic trials in another session.) Thursday I flew out to Ohio and checked my weight right away. I was 63.1kg, which was a little high (I think I was eating a little too good the last week lol) I ate some celery and carrots and then alternated hot tub and pool for an hour. Afterwards I checked my weight on a teammate's scale and i was 63.7! My teammate gave me some quick tips and I headed straight to look for a sauna. The front desk directed me to a ymca 3 blocks away which I spent the next two hours losing .5kg lol. I woke up in the morning and went to the official scale and I was 62.2. Then I was forced to put on all my sweats and sat in the sauna for another hour. The temperature of the sauna was only 140F which is probably why it took so long.... At the weigh in, I went LAST which was fucking annoying since I wanted to eat really bad. The warm up room was very cramped( I should of taken a picture.) I felt pretty good after rehydrating and eating and warmed up fine. Another coach from my team worked with me, since my coach was busy with another lifter. He noticed I start too upright which causes me to loop the bar a little. There was no time to fix it so I just snatched normally. First attempt at 87 I smoked. The next jump to 91 I looped a tad, and the same with 92kg. My coach made good adjustments to my attempts since I'm not sure if I would of made more than 92. So I ended my snatch session with two prs (91 and 92). Clean and jerks is when I realized how sitting in a sauna for 3 hours will affect a person haha. My warmups were getting a little sluggish once I was getting to the top weight. My first attempt(108kg) felt a lot harder, but I made it fine. Which I then told my coach and he made my next attempt only 111. The bar felt super heavy off the ground and I caught the bar a little low on my right shoulder. I readjusted for the jerk and made it cleanly. Third attempt was 113. I absolutely smoked the clean! I went to set up for the jerk and thought to power jerk it. Bad decision since when I think to power jerk, my feet get a little too wide. I felt the bar move a little forward as I got it overhead and lost it.... 2/3 attempts made with two more prs. At the end I was a little disappointed I spent too much time cutting weight and my last missed attempt. I learned alot and will definitely do better next time. did u use sauna for cutting weight? | ||
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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:02 decafchicken wrote: Well it's kind of good you didn't enter, it would have made the competition too one-sided. Lets not kid ourselves, an Ultralisk man vs. petty fools who think they're the hot shit because they have some hair on their ass? Ez wins for you sir! I'm still 5-10kg away from qualifying for nationals. If the #s stay the same ill make it easy next year. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On March 07 2012 18:51 Zafrumi wrote: my personal opinion: ss > sl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooby's workouts. In my experience for a complete beginner, SL > SS. Think about it - the extra two work sets are going to help them get the neurological component of strength down that much sooner, and with proper coaching (provided by a friend or this thread or whatever) it's going to get them adapted to the proper form as well. Typically they can handle the extra two sets for a good long while, provided the nutrition is where it needs to be, and eventually the workout sets back to 3x5 anyway. Furthermore, they're not going to start out with the back or hip flexibility, or in most cases the muscular control to properly clean. Rows are a great way to build a strong and solid back in the mean time. SL is what I have the guys that come to the gym with me and aren't already regular lifters with solid technique start out on lately, and though we focus mainly on the squat, they're definitely making better overall progress than when I used to throw guys on SS. On March 08 2012 04:49 GoTuNk! wrote: did u use sauna for cutting weight? He wrote in there that he used a sauna on two separate occasions, but that the temp was a little low (140 F) | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
On March 08 2012 04:29 AoN.DimSum wrote: the arnolds is held in columbus ohio every single year lol! Haha I think I thought it was a bodybuilding only thing, so I didn't pay any attention this year. It's like two hours away from me. Shoulda went, but I'm in class still anyway. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
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