EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2012 - Page 110
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FFGenerations
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On March 09 2012 07:13 FFGenerations wrote: do your other lifts suffer when you do that kinda workout? (like the pure deadlift or pure squat ones) Not on the squats. I usually only need to eat and sleep properly and then go heavy on them and I improve. It works for a limited time on the deadlifts but I usually need some accessory work in the form of stiff-legged deads and good mornings to make continuous progress. As for today, I only had an hour so I just did the most important part. | ||
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decafchicken
United States19932 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
BP: 87.5x3x3, 97.5x3x3, 107.5x3, 105x3x2, 115x1 So today I squatted at my uni gym again. Turns out the fucking safety bar are too high, and now that I'm using more weight the bar bends a bit which means I hit the pins half the time. I think I'll buy a wood surface to fill the squat bar place so I can elevate 1-2 inches and avoid the pins, gotta ask for permition. I'll break someones face if it doesn't work. BP was fucking tiring so I lowered weight a bit (107 to 105), I think its because I benched on sunday, monday, wednesday and thursday. I'm confident I can do more than 120 though now .Also, tomorrow starts uni welcome parties, which involve a pool and a party on the same venue (or something among those lines in different settings) tomorrow, next wednesday, following saturday and the saturday after that. I've decided to drink an all of them to a semi moderate amount (which in this context means no puking and remembering half of the stuff) cause they are just fucking awesome (hundreds of drunk girls looking out for a guy with a huge squat). Gonna do everything on my power to maximize recovery and complete smolov anyway (lots of sleep, food, fish oil pills, hip stretching) Feel free to add suggestion on recovery. @dimsum and anyone interested on cutting weight for competition I suggest this article. I read u used sauna and I think thats terrible  .http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/01/18/how-to-cut-weight/ My experience with subpar supplements (couldn't find all/the same suggested on article) plus less time to dehidratate/rehidrate was to cut 8 pounds without side effects, and gain 10-12 for the next day. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
I pulled 170.5x5 today @ 78.5 BW. Your move. Love, Hurricane | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:00 Hurricane wrote: Oh SNAP! Funkie must be jellymad from this one! :DDear Funkie, I pulled 170.5x5 today @ 78.5 BW. Your move. Love, Hurricane | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
We get to run over this bridge: ![[image loading]](http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/03/08/1226017/471267-bolte-bridge.jpg) and through this tunnel: ![[image loading]](http://www.up-video.com/uploads/thumbs/urba5itwcurco4ht.jpg) which should be pretty cool. My aim is to just keep pace with my sister (who has been running way more than me, but at snail pace) and than just open up the legs for the last 1 km or so. Distance running kind of bores me so I don't care too much about my overall time. Lifting wise I've been pretty lazy and missing a heap of sessions. So i've only been going once or twice a week. When I do go I'm basically doing maintenance workouts, usually with deadlifts being my main compound lift. Also been experimenting with a bit of bodyweight stuff outside the gym, such as weighted pushups. I'm trying to progress to a pistol squat but the process is slow. Currently I can get down to just above parralel, past that I just fall on my ass. Once this run is over with I'm going to max out my deadlift to see where that's at. I'm hoping it will be around 140-145kg, then I want to get it up to 160kg for over 2x bodyweight. On March 09 2012 17:25 Osmoses wrote: Today was ridiculous. I'm seriously considering throwing this routine out the window because if I've already done squats and bench to failure I have nothing left for deadlift, which results in shit form and back pains. Guess the fact that I'm cutting might be a factor. Or maybe I'm just a pussy. Which routine is it? Maybe drop a set/reps on squat so your not blown out by the time you deadlift. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
To give an example, I was doing my higher rep day last week and my first two exercises were bench and overhead press. I went slightly too heavy on bench so on my last set I didn't manage to get the final rep up and had to let the bar down on the pins. I proceeded to do overhead press with 40kg (I've done the same reps with 50kg+) and I didn't even come close to finish my set. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
My biggest issue with this is that I'm basically handicapping anything I do after the first exercise (squat in my case) which first of all is boring and second of all is screwing up my progress in those other lifts. I know I shouldn't be concerned with progress on a cut but at the very least I want to be able to put all my strength into each lift and not just whatever I happen to have left. edit: Happy birthday Sneakyz :p | ||
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terr13
United States298 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:00 Hurricane wrote: Dear Funkie, I pulled 170.5x5 today @ 78.5 BW. Your move. Love, Hurricane I did that on wednesday ;o. lower BW too bitch. 170kg x 1 x 5 Deadlift @ 76kg BW I'm taking today off, and going for a lift tomorrow morning, Hopefully I don't fucking die tomorrow haha :D Hurri, this means we have a Deadlift that is over 2xBW WE MUST BE PRO AT SOMETHING BRO. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On March 09 2012 17:54 Osmoses wrote: @Ludrik: I got it from the rippedbody.jp site, Big Three he called it. I was wary at first because Berkhan says doing more than one compound lift within two days is retarded, but the rippedbody guy made a pretty convincing argument about it only applying to advanced lifters because noobs haven't learned to push themselves to the point where they need a week's rest between specific lifts. I still think that argument is pretty sound, but I don't know if it's true when you're on a cut. My biggest issue with this is that I'm basically handicapping anything I do after the first exercise (squat in my case) which first of all is boring and second of all is screwing up my progress in those other lifts. I know I shouldn't be concerned with progress on a cut but at the very least I want to be able to put all my strength into each lift and not just whatever I happen to have left. edit: Happy birthday Sneakyz :p dude you probably know but most of us/nubs are doing the starting strength program (SS), which is "big 3" (or big 5) 3x a week.. but it is never to supposed to be to failure. the whole point of the program is that you can recover fast enough to be able to do those "big 3" three times per week. if you overdo it then you wont recover in time and are fucking up the program. btw "to failure" afaik is doing your work sets (3x5) and then at the end of each set or at the end of all your sets you get someone to spot you and you just keep going and going until the spotter has to lift the bar off of you coz you've collapsed (sorta) so ya, go ahead and skip squats next session to let your legs recover and give you a more fun/productive workout for that day. and then keep some awareness about you not to overdo it in the future. remember the whole point of going to the gym is to be able to recover intime to keep to your program i kinda alternate, some days i just do my worksets and leave, some days i do my worksets and then get spotted to failure/do more random sets until im dead. but if you look at my progress spreadsheet , its kinda all over the place where i've fucked up link edit also if youre on a cut i think you can expect the worst hehe | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On March 09 2012 17:54 Osmoses wrote: @Ludrik: I got it from the rippedbody.jp site, Big Three he called it. I was wary at first because Berkhan says doing more than one compound lift within two days is retarded, but the rippedbody guy made a pretty convincing argument about it only applying to advanced lifters because noobs haven't learned to push themselves to the point where they need a week's rest between specific lifts. I still think that argument is pretty sound, but I don't know if it's true when you're on a cut. My biggest issue with this is that I'm basically handicapping anything I do after the first exercise (squat in my case) which first of all is boring and second of all is screwing up my progress in those other lifts. I know I shouldn't be concerned with progress on a cut but at the very least I want to be able to put all my strength into each lift and not just whatever I happen to have left. edit: Happy birthday Sneakyz :p Have you tried RPT? It worked for me while I was cutting and I have shittier recovery than most people I think. Mix up light days in your workouts and don't train to failure on every movement every workout. If you're not lifting baby weights, your body won't be able to recover in time. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kNvFh.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vh0Xu.jpg) @Osmoses Rip says that if you fail squat 3x in a row, with good sleep and nutrition, THEN you take off about 3 weeks. | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On March 09 2012 04:21 Daigomi wrote: Even though the researcher denies it, it's still based on calories in < calories out. His research seems to mostly look at what affects the calories in part of the equation: That is to say, by altering insulin dynamics, you eat more, so your calories in > calories out. It's the same thing, he's just choosing to focus on one element of the equation. That's my interpretation at least. I thought the study with the rats was more revealing/interesting (same calories, one sugar the other HFCS) and I don't know how much longer these jeans are going to last ^^ | ||
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