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On September 30 2011 17:06 billy5000 wrote:
I was just thinking..don't you guys think that some people are well adapted to eating some of the unaccepted foods in this diet? In general, I think it's fine to say that human beings haven't evolved to eat the foods we have today, but who knows, maybe you have acquired a gene that allows you to eat certain processed food. I think the reason why every one of us hasn't acquired this "good" gene is because of the limitations of natural selection set by doctors and technology these days, thus the "good" gene is overshadowed by many more "regular" and "bad" genes.
I'm not trying to start a debate on evolution or anything. Just reinforcing the point that this diet is customizable to you as an individual. Some people are just more tolerable than others.
Sure. Some people can tolerate dairy and some people can't.
Like I've seen saying on this whole last page for about 3 posts now, it's a good idea to eliminate stuff for at least a month and see how you feel readding it back into your diet.
Sometimes things you didn't think affected you actually affect you. Maybe 10-20% of people can see noticable effects when they eliminate grains from diet, but when people add them back in that percentage actually jumps to around 60-70% as born out by the studies.
So the time eliminating them lets the body acclimate to how it is supposed to be running in a healthy way and then adding them back in shocks the system with them and you get a more potent response that you can feel.
Also, there is virtually no natural selection nowadays in human populations. We still cannot reliably delete or subtract genes from genomes, and people who used to get sick and die at young ages can live due to medical technology. But that's a topic for a different thread.
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Regarding grain addiction. Modern foods are designed to give us an overload of what has been called "food reward," that indeed acts much like an opiod on the brain. In addition to simply making us crave them, evidence is mounting that these foods actually change your body's "set-point," meaning that even if genetically you are a lean individual, eating high-reward foods signals your body to store more fat and--even worse--to hold on to this fat even in times of reduced caloric intake, all the while making you crave said foods extremely intensely.
This is all still very much up for debate, but the so-called "food-reward hypothesis of obesity," is covered in depth at http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/ (also listed in this thread's FAQ). If you are obese, carb-addicted and/or to learn more about leptin resistance and its potential role in obesity, www.jackkruse.com is a good site as well.
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Thanks eshlow for your detailed post. I'm going to check out the links you gave me.
AoN.DimSum: yes I am. hi!
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On September 30 2011 21:26 Ingenol wrote:Regarding grain addiction. Modern foods are designed to give us an overload of what has been called "food reward," that indeed acts much like an opiod on the brain. In addition to simply making us crave them, evidence is mounting that these foods actually change your body's "set-point," meaning that even if genetically you are a lean individual, eating high-reward foods signals your body to store more fat and--even worse--to hold on to this fat even in times of reduced caloric intake, all the while making you crave said foods extremely intensely. This is all still very much up for debate, but the so-called "food-reward hypothesis of obesity," is covered in depth at http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/ (also listed in this thread's FAQ). If you are obese, carb-addicted and/or to learn more about leptin resistance and its potential role in obesity, www.jackkruse.com is a good site as well.
I'm going to read those links in a bit, thank you.
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Two NY strip strip steaks
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Two onions
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Mushrooms
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2 eggs
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1 beer
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Fuck yeah
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On October 01 2011 19:53 Cambium wrote:
Two NY strip strip steaks
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Two onions
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Mushrooms
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2 eggs
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1 beer
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Fuck yeah
Is your beer Paleo? :p
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On October 03 2011 01:47 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 19:53 Cambium wrote:
Two NY strip strip steaks
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Two onions
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Mushrooms
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2 eggs
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1 beer
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Fuck yeah Is your beer Paleo? :p
got it from indoor my beer tree, haven't you heard?
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On September 30 2011 08:11 Dalguno wrote:
I swear, I can't stay away from grains for more than a week straight. Most frustrating thing ever.
Lol this, exactly
Il get to like week one and just say 'fuck it all, I'm making a sandwich'.
Doesn't help that virtually every restaurant item ever comes with some form of grain or legume.
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ate pasta for the first time in forever..upset stomach. not my fault I had no other food 
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Hi guys, is it ok to take flax seeds when doing paleo? I drink one tablespoon of flax seeds every morning and evening, because they work very well on my stomach, but I`m not quite sure they`ll fit in a paleo diet.
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On October 04 2011 14:16 decafchicken wrote:ate pasta for the first time in forever..upset stomach. not my fault I had no other food
This happens to me once a week.
Me: Hey baby, what do you want for dinner?
Girlfriend: Let's go to that Italian restaurant.
Me: Alright sure I'll just order something off the side menu.
...Yeah, I'm too lazy to finish this dialogue, but this story ends with me sobbing on the toilet because I tore through an entire pizza and plate of pasta by myself and have to pay the gastrointestinal consequences.
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I'm interested in Paleo and adjusting more and more meals to it, however I followed Adkins for a while which in essence is obviously very different but I noticed a few similarities in food choice. Dinners are not much of an issue, but breakfast was harder to maintain mostly due to the lack of variation and it always coming down to eggs. I am looking for other styles of breakfast to mix it up, salads are the first thing that comes to mind but perhaps somebody has other ideas as well?
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fruits and/or steaks!
you could also just skip breakfast (or even go IF style! www.leangains.com)
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On October 04 2011 20:04 Liquid`Meat wrote:
I'm interested in Paleo and adjusting more and more meals to it, however I followed Adkins for a while which in essence is obviously very different but I noticed a few similarities in food choice. Dinners are not much of an issue, but breakfast was harder to maintain mostly due to the lack of variation and it always coming down to eggs. I am looking for other styles of breakfast to mix it up, salads are the first thing that comes to mind but perhaps somebody has other ideas as well?
Have you considered just skipping breakfast for daily 16-20 hour fasts? I know this seems like I'm taking your issue and suggesting something completely irrelevant, but small periods of fasting can be great for the metabolism. This is how I handle the most inconvenient meal of the day... this and a nice black coffee every morning.
Also, eggs don't make much sense as a breakfast food anyway I feel. They work great as a source of slowly absorbed protein before a lengthy fast (such as a 10:00 meal before bed), but for breakfast, I never understood why it became tradition to eat eggs. I guess they're easily prepared and all, but from a nutritional standpoint, there are better (but much less traditional) things to eat for breakfast.
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On October 04 2011 17:06 mdb wrote:
Hi guys, is it ok to take flax seeds when doing paleo? I drink one tablespoon of flax seeds every morning and evening, because they work very well on my stomach, but I`m not quite sure they`ll fit in a paleo diet.
Sure. But ALA doesn't really convert to EPA+DHA that well.
Plus, flax seeds are in their husk typically so you're not getting much nutrition from them in the first place unless you mash them up before you eat them. Seeds are meant to get through the digestive system in the feces so they can spread the genome of that particular seed elsewhere.
On October 04 2011 20:04 Liquid`Meat wrote:
I'm interested in Paleo and adjusting more and more meals to it, however I followed Adkins for a while which in essence is obviously very different but I noticed a few similarities in food choice. Dinners are not much of an issue, but breakfast was harder to maintain mostly due to the lack of variation and it always coming down to eggs. I am looking for other styles of breakfast to mix it up, salads are the first thing that comes to mind but perhaps somebody has other ideas as well?
I usually try to cook a little extra from dinner the night before for either breakfast or lunch the next day.
Eggs works, any kind of fruit/or vegetable works, steak, bacon, etc. Honestly any type of meat works pretty well if cooked right for breakfast, hah.
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goddamn went to germany for vacation over the weekend and drank SO MUCH BEER. and ate a bunch of bread cause european bread >>>> american bread. time to get back on the wagon.
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Yeah, any kind of meat can work for breakfast if you're not fasting. You could also do protein powders if you're okay with that.
Just don't eat bacon all the time. It's delicious but paleo people tend to go way overboard on it IMO as it has a pretty bad O6:O3 ratio (even pastured bacon).
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I'm interested in trying Paleo but one thing that bothers me is beans. It's starting to get to the colder months and during those months I love to eat chili. I guess my question would be, is there a good replacement for the beans in chili? I think everything else in it is fine (meat, tomatoes, various peppers, onions, garlic, and corn).
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On October 04 2011 22:22 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 20:04 Liquid`Meat wrote:
I'm interested in Paleo and adjusting more and more meals to it, however I followed Adkins for a while which in essence is obviously very different but I noticed a few similarities in food choice. Dinners are not much of an issue, but breakfast was harder to maintain mostly due to the lack of variation and it always coming down to eggs. I am looking for other styles of breakfast to mix it up, salads are the first thing that comes to mind but perhaps somebody has other ideas as well? Have you considered just skipping breakfast for daily 16-20 hour fasts? I know this seems like I'm taking your issue and suggesting something completely irrelevant, but small periods of fasting can be great for the metabolism. This is how I handle the most inconvenient meal of the day... this and a nice black coffee every morning. Also, eggs don't make much sense as a breakfast food anyway I feel. They work great as a source of slowly absorbed protein before a lengthy fast (such as a 10:00 meal before bed), but for breakfast, I never understood why it became tradition to eat eggs. I guess they're easily prepared and all, but from a nutritional standpoint, there are better (but much less traditional) things to eat for breakfast.
Well my breakfast is more around lunchtime anyway, but I don't want to go fasting on purpose. Changing my food is a big enough of a change and if I do these things too radical with a lot of effort then I'm setting myself up for failure in the long run.
I like the idea of cooking a bit extra and use that as breakfast a few times a week and some meat once in a while.
On October 05 2011 01:09 Ingenol wrote:
Yeah, any kind of meat can work for breakfast if you're not fasting. You could also do protein powders if you're okay with that.
Just don't eat bacon all the time. It's delicious but paleo people tend to go way overboard on it IMO as it has a pretty bad O6:O3 ratio (even pastured bacon).
Well I don't mind protein powder and still got a few kgs, but it seems to me that protein powder is the opposite of paleo?
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Well, it depends on how you define paleo. I generally look at it as a dietary approach that's tailored to our evolutionary physiology. As such, I eschew grains, vegetable proteins, seed oils, etc. etc., that we are not "designed" to eat. Protein powder certainly shouldn't be a staple of your diet, but I see nothing wrong with it in moderation. I personally use micellar casein (whey is apparently rather insulinogenic) without aspartame. I rationalize it somewhat because by taking care of breakfast in such an easy manner, it helps me prepare delicious, real-food lunches and dinners stress free.
I could IF but at the moment I'm trying Dr. Jack Kruse's leptin reset protocol which calls for 50g of protein within 30 minutes of waking. When I have IF'd in the past I just ate two "real" meals per day as Rosa said.
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