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Hey new to this thread. Opened it up before but it was a bit too much for me at the time. Decided to give it a try again. Anyways I'm currently 6'3 265 trying to get down to 250 as a first goal. I normally don't have to much of a plan when I work out
. I do random exercises from diff workouts. Like the blood and sand workout somedays(my shitty version of it) Or some of the P90x workouts some other days( one Again my shitty version of it) My biggest weakness is my diet and gym consistency. I eat pretty shitty trying to fix it since I know how it important it is but its a work in progress atm. Also I always seem to get really motivated for a week or two and then just all goes away. For example every 1st 2 weeks of every month seems to be my " OK lets try this healthy life again"
I was skimming through the stronglifts 5x5 pdf since I thought about using that as my routine. But I noticed a lot of people were using this to bulk up? It seems like everyone is getting bigger using this. I want the exact opposite of this. Should I still do this?
Ill be browsing this thread a lot more often! I'm gonna do it this time.!
edit - Oh by the way this thread is mega intimidating so you guys know! Not sure why but I was literally afraid to post in it
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On September 06 2011 06:45 Zafrumi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 03:30 Earll wrote:On September 06 2011 02:57 dudeman001 wrote:On September 06 2011 02:33 Earll wrote:Saw this http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=262650 blog, which lead me to this http://www.leangains.com/ blog, which spawned some questions (and already had some other questions before), and see the leangains blog is mentioned here, so figured I might post some of my wonderings and maybe get a little bit wiser. I know I should post\have goals for motivational purposes or whatever but I dont B( and motivation is not really an issue now as failure/giving up/skipping workouts or whatever is not really an option. I am 22 years old, before this have basically never worked out in my life before, (even in gym in school I would do the barebare minimum and avoid getting tired at any cost.) basically. I am 1.80~cm tall and weight like 71.5 ~kg .My current goal is not to become huge\much bigger I guess, mainly looking just to become more healthy\fit\energized overall, and more... toned I guess =p The current dream\end goal (not actual end goal obv but youknow) in terms of aesthetics is to have visible ab muscles\6pack\whatever you want to call it. Have been doing p90x for 1 month now (finished my last real day of the 4th week today, woop woop.) And have also basically been following some sort of Paelo Diet. Only drink water, and eat the healthy version of minced meat (dunno what to call it in english, in norwegian we call it karbonadedeig =p) this usually comes in 200gram per meal 1-3 times a day (depending on how 'long' the day is I guess. Most days 2x 200gram though) Apart from that I eat fruits (Mainly 1 banana and 1 can of pineapple) and vegetables (like half a cucumber and a carrot) with each meal, and apart from that I eat some bananas or apples inbetween if I feel like it. For the last month I have been unemployed\had no commitments so have not really set out any schedule for when to eat what or whatever but now just started on some course (from 9-3) which makes me more rigid, and also read about the minifasts or whatever, from leangains, and figured it might be soemthing I could incorperate. A bit unsure about how though. Assuming this could be beneficial for me I guess my current plan would be to not eat until lunch at the course thing (at like 12-13) and eat something slightly lightish there (like an apple and some vegetables and some yoghurt or some shit) Then when I get home at 3~30 work out, and eat my first meatfilled meal, possibly have some fruits or some shit inbetween if i feel like it, and then eat second meal at like 8~10pm before bed. I also think my diet could use some fine tuning, as the fruits I am eating might not be the best fruits (I read somewhere that pineapple\banans were sugaryfruits and might not be the best for me) and could\should also probably eat more vegetables, but the only vegetable that i currently really like is cucumber :{ Sorry for the somewhat in-coherency of this post but unsure of what to add and not add so I just tried to get in whatever might be relevant. Apriciate any advice given and thanks to anyone taking the time to read through this\potentially help me out  Are you a thin guy? From your weight and height it sounds like you're pretty skinny already, getting that six pack you're looking for shouldn't be that far off. Personally I'm not a fan of leangains. You say you're basically following paleo and that's really all you need: meat, veggies, nuts and some fruit. Your diet sounds alright except for the lack of vegetables... sorry, it's time to eat more of those.  Maybe spinach or some green beans? Are you just looking to do working out at home, do running around, or use a gym? This'll heavily determine what kind of exercise regimens we can give you. well my BMI is 22~so I guess I am about average/middle/neither in terms of thin\thickness. I am currently not eating nuts, will peanuts do ok\are these an important part of the diet? =p Guess I wouldnt mind adding some of those though. I am currently doing p90x, which is working out from home and is the way I prefer it by far. I am pretty happy with the workouts so far though and will stick to that unless someone has a convincing argument for reasons to do otherwise. ( can see the workout schedule here http://www.p90xworkoutschedule.com/ ). I think I have started to see a very slight amount of ab muscles though, and my biceps\arms have also grown a decent amount (they are still very thin sticks I guess, but I notice an improvenet from what they once was =p) When I started this diet though I fried my meat together with a fuckton of salt and then on top of that a lot of soysauce, but I read up recently that much salt\sodium is not good for you and makes you store lots of extra water, so Ive started only using pepper now and gone down a couple of kilos (presumably at least partially in water from less salt) the last few days which is nice. As a sidenote, does it at all matter that I use(a modest amount) butter(?) to fry my eat in? I have considered trying to get some natural oilshit but then again I doubt it can matter much :c 1. BMI isnt very useful for people who exercise. 2. peanuts arent nuts. they are legumes, and legumes are the devil. stay away from them3. nuts in general are pretty overrated (in my opinion at least). eat a small amount of almonds or walnuts for a snack if you want, though. 4. having visible abs is all about bodyfat percentage: 10% and below will get you a decent six pack! my advice to achieve this: lift heavy weights (see OP why lifting weights is preferrable to cardio programs such as p90x), and eat slightly under your BMR (or even exactly your BMR, seeing as you are already pretty skinny). this will make you lose bodyfat and retain or even gain some muscle mass to make you look more athletic. on the other hand, if what you are doing is already working, then you can stick to the p90x and just eat under your maintenance level as long as its working and maybe try something new once you stop making progress. 5. butter is fine. another good choice would be coconut oil.
LOL now whats wrong with legumes?
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On September 06 2011 17:19 jjhchsc2 wrote:
oooh wheres the TLHF subforum?
i also started chinups but i got some blisters on fingers doing them( both hands). any way to fix it? the blisters are at the top of the palm and below thr fingers.
I got blisters as well when i started working on a pullup bar, but they toughened up soon enough and don't bother me anymore.
@Ace: I'm pretty confident that you can lose weight on SL if your diet is good. A few people have posted their weight loss results with lifting weights. Snapplecakes here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180919¤tpage=549#10973 I think is the latest. Don't be afraid to post here, if you choose to involve yourself in this community people can be very supportive.
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I usually cook with olive oil but I've read in a number of places now that it's not ideal. Coconut oil is supposed to be the best but I've been looking around a bit and that stuff is really expensive, so what would be the best alternative?
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Could you take that solid coconut fat instead? Thats really cheap.
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Is it possible to gain weight if I'm not the person in control of what I eat and the only equipment I have is dumbbells?
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If anyone have read The Warrior diet, how much do you agree with it? I don't know enough stuff about diets etc  Is it good?
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On September 06 2011 17:27 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
Hey new to this thread. Opened it up before but it was a bit too much for me at the time. Decided to give it a try again. Anyways I'm currently 6'3 265 trying to get down to 250 as a first goal. I normally don't have to much of a plan when I work out
. I do random exercises from diff workouts. Like the blood and sand workout somedays(my shitty version of it) Or some of the P90x workouts some other days( one Again my shitty version of it) My biggest weakness is my diet and gym consistency. I eat pretty shitty trying to fix it since I know how it important it is but its a work in progress atm. Also I always seem to get really motivated for a week or two and then just all goes away. For example every 1st 2 weeks of every month seems to be my " OK lets try this healthy life again"
I was skimming through the stronglifts 5x5 pdf since I thought about using that as my routine. But I noticed a lot of people were using this to bulk up? It seems like everyone is getting bigger using this. I want the exact opposite of this. Should I still do this?
Ill be browsing this thread a lot more often! I'm gonna do it this time.!
edit - Oh by the way this thread is mega intimidating so you guys know! Not sure why but I was literally afraid to post in it
welcome! we realise how intimidating this thread is, so kudos for posting!
absolutely do stronglifts! remember: diet modulates weight, exercise affects body composition. so do SS to look athletic, and eat under your BMR to lose weight. good luck!
On September 06 2011 18:21 Garnet wrote:
Is it possible to gain weight if I'm not the person in control of what I eat and the only equipment I have is dumbbells?
someone is shoving food down your throat? for weight loss, it doesnt really matter what you eat, as long as calories in < calories out!
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Alright guys. Question.
I have been saving money for a few months and I'm moving into a new 2 room apartment at the end of the year. I'm seriously thinking about building a home gym because there are zero places in Osaka where I can do Olympic weightlifting without getting kicked out of the gym.
Apartment. Investing in my own barbell/bumper plates. Building a platform.
Is there any way to build a platform that kills a lot of noise? How much noise does dropping some bumper plates make anyway? I don't want to piss my neighbors/the people under me off endlessly.
I know it's a longshot, but I'm just wondering if it's possible.
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I think it's going to be very hard to stop the people under you from hearing thuds, considering often you can hear people above you walking around.
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On September 06 2011 18:02 Logros wrote:
I usually cook with olive oil but I've read in a number of places now that it's not ideal. Coconut oil is supposed to be the best but I've been looking around a bit and that stuff is really expensive, so what would be the best alternative?
afaik butter is good for cooking, since its fat is already saturated, so no problem heating it
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just came back from my first session in a japanese gym, it's so LOL
Went to Tokyo Metropolitan Gym since someone somewhere said it was "good" for crosslifting. The gym had one squat rack, one power rack, and three bench presses.
One of the benches was designated for minimum of two people, upwards of 40 minutes.
All the other equipment can only be used for 20 minutes at a time, and you actually have to sign up on a little board.
Being the dumbass foreigner, of course I paid no attention to the little board, and caused a cute female Japanese employee to "scold" me (meaning endlessly apologizing and bowing, while explaining the procedures).
The platform was built into the power rack, and it was a real piece of shit, as its width only BARELY covers the distance between two plates on barbell. During one of my DL reps, I shifted weight slightly to the left, then, THUMP, the whole left side landed on the floor =.=
A super quick work out, a total of 70 minutes (20 on each station: squat, bench, DL and a 10 minute break), if it wasn't for the shitty power platform, I think I would actually go back.
Now to find a new gym, yay.
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On September 06 2011 21:32 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Alright guys. Question.
I have been saving money for a few months and I'm moving into a new 2 room apartment at the end of the year. I'm seriously thinking about building a home gym because there are zero places in Osaka where I can do Olympic weightlifting without getting kicked out of the gym.
Apartment. Investing in my own barbell/bumper plates. Building a platform.
Is there any way to build a platform that kills a lot of noise? How much noise does dropping some bumper plates make anyway? I don't want to piss my neighbors/the people under me off endlessly.
I know it's a longshot, but I'm just wondering if it's possible.
I don't think your apartment is tall enough for a soundproof gym...
At my old school, we had a section designated for powerlifting, an area covered with thick rubber and all the plates were thick bumper plates, and it was still loud as fuck, not to mention the shaking of the ground.
I really don't think it's feasible to build a powerlifting gym in an apartment unless, MAYBE, you live on the ground floor, or don't give a fuck about your neighbours.
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As of 2pm Friday, I no longer partake of caffeine! I still feel dizzy, and like crap, but that's to be expected after ten years of drinking nothing but Pepsi.
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On September 06 2011 17:27 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
Hey new to this thread. Opened it up before but it was a bit too much for me at the time. Decided to give it a try again. Anyways I'm currently 6'3 265 trying to get down to 250 as a first goal. I normally don't have to much of a plan when I work out
. I do random exercises from diff workouts. Like the blood and sand workout somedays(my shitty version of it) Or some of the P90x workouts some other days( one Again my shitty version of it) My biggest weakness is my diet and gym consistency. I eat pretty shitty trying to fix it since I know how it important it is but its a work in progress atm. Also I always seem to get really motivated for a week or two and then just all goes away. For example every 1st 2 weeks of every month seems to be my " OK lets try this healthy life again"
I was skimming through the stronglifts 5x5 pdf since I thought about using that as my routine. But I noticed a lot of people were using this to bulk up? It seems like everyone is getting bigger using this. I want the exact opposite of this. Should I still do this?
Ill be browsing this thread a lot more often! I'm gonna do it this time.!
edit - Oh by the way this thread is mega intimidating so you guys know! Not sure why but I was literally afraid to post in it
don't be afraid, we are actually a really friendly bunch :D
weightlifting is great for losing weight, i think there was a study floating around somewhere saying how weightlifting is better than cardio, etc, etc.
you need to seriously stuff yourself to bulk up visibly (it's really not easy), so if you control what you eat while working out, it really shouldn't be a problem. You can always stop if you feel you are getting too big.
SL is a great program, I'm sure you reach your goals very quickly if you stick to it. Also, more importantly, weigh loss is about your determination; regardless of the program you choose, you have to follow it to see results. No one will tell you it's easy, but we are behind you if you are determined!
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On September 06 2011 17:27 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
Hey new to this thread. Opened it up before but it was a bit too much for me at the time. Decided to give it a try again. Anyways I'm currently 6'3 265 trying to get down to 250 as a first goal. I normally don't have to much of a plan when I work out
. I do random exercises from diff workouts. Like the blood and sand workout somedays(my shitty version of it) Or some of the P90x workouts some other days( one Again my shitty version of it) My biggest weakness is my diet and gym consistency. I eat pretty shitty trying to fix it since I know how it important it is but its a work in progress atm. Also I always seem to get really motivated for a week or two and then just all goes away. For example every 1st 2 weeks of every month seems to be my " OK lets try this healthy life again"
I was skimming through the stronglifts 5x5 pdf since I thought about using that as my routine. But I noticed a lot of people were using this to bulk up? It seems like everyone is getting bigger using this. I want the exact opposite of this. Should I still do this?
Ill be browsing this thread a lot more often! I'm gonna do it this time.!
edit - Oh by the way this thread is mega intimidating so you guys know! Not sure why but I was literally afraid to post in it
i cant really do anything but heavily recommend weightlifting for weight loss, its ALL in the diet 100% as i hate running and i wouldnt have the recovery to be able to do cardio sessions ontop of my lifting concidering my kcal deficit
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On September 06 2011 21:32 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Alright guys. Question.
I have been saving money for a few months and I'm moving into a new 2 room apartment at the end of the year. I'm seriously thinking about building a home gym because there are zero places in Osaka where I can do Olympic weightlifting without getting kicked out of the gym.
Apartment. Investing in my own barbell/bumper plates. Building a platform.
Is there any way to build a platform that kills a lot of noise? How much noise does dropping some bumper plates make anyway? I don't want to piss my neighbors/the people under me off endlessly.
I know it's a longshot, but I'm just wondering if it's possible.
You DONT have to throw your weights down, i put them down slowly and hardly make any sound at all, i am used to that as i worked on a stonefloor for 3 months...try doing deadlifts and powercleans there. Normal carpet even could be enought for you if you dont throw your weights down.
squat: 5x5 60kg
benchpress: 5x5 55kg
powercleans: 3-3-3-3-3 50kg.
Next to me girls where doing 40kg powercleans...hooh...not as much as me :D
-e- i am also now 87kg, i need to start eating more, i shouldnt lose anymore weight. More fat but no more weight = start getting some muscle in.
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On September 07 2011 00:14 inimenesc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 21:32 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Alright guys. Question.
I have been saving money for a few months and I'm moving into a new 2 room apartment at the end of the year. I'm seriously thinking about building a home gym because there are zero places in Osaka where I can do Olympic weightlifting without getting kicked out of the gym.
Apartment. Investing in my own barbell/bumper plates. Building a platform.
Is there any way to build a platform that kills a lot of noise? How much noise does dropping some bumper plates make anyway? I don't want to piss my neighbors/the people under me off endlessly.
I know it's a longshot, but I'm just wondering if it's possible. You DONT have to throw your weights down, i put them down slowly and hardly make any sound at all, i am used to that as i worked on a stonefloor for 3 months...try doing deadlifts and powercleans there. Normal carpet even could be enought for you if you dont throw your weights down. squat: 5x5 60kg benchpress: 5x5 55kg powercleans: 3-3-3-3-3 50kg. Next to me girls where doing 40kg powercleans...hooh...not as much as me :D -e- i am also now 87kg, i need to start eating more, i shouldnt lose anymore weight. More fat but no more weight = start getting some muscle in.
Damn there are girls doing powercleans in your gym? :/ Jelly.
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ive got many other guys there, i can look from the window in the hall, where there are high jumpers, long jumpers, pole vaulting, shot put, running all kinds etc you can do inside.
In the gym i am in the freeweight area, where guys bp 100kg easily and squat 200kg easily, i feel weak there, but thats why i am going there, in 1-2 years i will be the strong one and others the weak ones 
gym is on 3 floors and areas.
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well theres a difference between putting down 50kg quiet and 200kg.
dont think its doable in an appartment.
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