On April 08 2011 10:58 RowdierBob wrote: I note in that video he asks the guy if he's benching for strength or size.
Can anyone explain the difference?
Strength you'll tend to use anywhere from 1-8 repetitions more working towards the lower spectrum or so... size can be generally about 4-12 with 5-8 being the best.
Technique for powerlifitng may differ somewhat from the range of motion issues as well
On April 09 2011 00:14 Warrior Madness wrote: Ok so I either strained or sprained my knee as well. lol. Just wondering if it's worth investing in a knee brace. Or whether I should just buy another ace wrap.
As a new-poster here, I just want to cheer for everyone here who has started and still is training, good effort!
As a rugby player on a very intense level, I know the advantages of training, and the disadvantages of not-training. I get injured a lot in my sport and have to keep away from training, which makes me mad then. That's when one realises, how much the body is built for doing physical work, and not just brainwork.
The reason why I'm writing here, is, because I'm interested if other rugby players are here, and would like to share their season/off-season TP's.
Mines +- like this:
Offseason: Continous 3-split weights (3x a week, each muscle group once) 2x weekly intervall sprint training Loads of Whey Protein, Creatine, BCAA and Beer!
Season: 2x weekly team training 1x weekly 80 min game with 1st team 1x weekly half a game 2nd team 2x weekly intervall sprint training or light jogging Daily Pressups, Situps, Squatjumps, Starjumps, "Burpies", ... for smaller muscle power
Share, critizise or just ignore
edit: also feel free to ask any training questions if you'd like
On April 08 2011 10:58 RowdierBob wrote: I note in that video he asks the guy if he's benching for strength or size.
Can anyone explain the difference?
strength usually low rep 1-5 (olympic lifters) size usually 8-12 rep (bodybuilders)
not really true tbh
plenty of strength programs have 10 rep for olympic lifters.
Depends on what phase of training :p
But yeah once you get pretty advanced/heavy it's mostly in the 1-8 range unless you're specifically drilling some sort of technique stuff which may be high rep
On April 09 2011 01:17 tendence wrote: As a new-poster here, I just want to cheer for everyone here who has started and still is training, good effort!
As a rugby player on a very intense level, I know the advantages of training, and the disadvantages of not-training. I get injured a lot in my sport and have to keep away from training, which makes me mad then. That's when one realises, how much the body is built for doing physical work, and not just brainwork.
The reason why I'm writing here, is, because I'm interested if other rugby players are here, and would like to share their season/off-season TP's.
Mines +- like this:
Offseason: Continous 3-split weights (3x a week, each muscle group once) 2x weekly intervall sprint training Loads of Whey Protein, Creatine, BCAA and Beer!
Season: 2x weekly team training 1x weekly 80 min game with 1st team 1x weekly half a game 2nd team 2x weekly intervall sprint training or light jogging Daily Pressups, Situps, Squatjumps, Starjumps, "Burpies", ... for smaller muscle power
Share, critizise or just ignore
edit: also feel free to ask any training questions if you'd like
good to see someone else from switzerland! where exactly are you from?
think decafchicken is the only one manly enough to play rugby around here
On April 08 2011 06:49 Necosarius wrote: Some time ago someone posted a vid about how to fix your bench, could you post it again? I can't find it in all these pages ;_;
Cheer up funkie, if you let me catch up on your squats I will never forgive you! <3 (did 105 kg today).
On April 08 2011 10:58 RowdierBob wrote: I note in that video he asks the guy if he's benching for strength or size.
Can anyone explain the difference?
Strength you'll tend to use anywhere from 1-8 repetitions more working towards the lower spectrum or so... size can be generally about 4-12 with 5-8 being the best.
Technique for powerlifitng may differ somewhat from the range of motion issues as well
The technique is so that you can handle large amounts of weight safely and safer than other "conventional" methods. Which makes perfect sense I my eyes, regardless of what your training goals are.
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@Tendence: maybe I should...there is I think a small Icelandic rugby club. Looks fun.
I've been lurking in this thread for awhile now and decided to post finally! I read through the entire thread a bit ago and was inspired to get in better shape. I was 5'10, 240 pounds, and 20 years old :[. I ordered both the paleo solution and starting strength (have read paleo already and will read SS soon). After a couple of weeks of eating better (havent been paleo the entire time but have recently) ive dropped 20 pounds( im at 220 atm) and do feel better in general. My goal is to lose about 40 more pounds, I think 180 would be a decent weight to aim for, but I also want to try and do strength training in the process so that I fill out my frame from being overweight for so long. The biggest question I have right now is regarding dairy. The book says zero dairy because it can be an irritant and promote insulin production, but throughout the thread people have recommended whole milk and butter from grass-fed animals. So if I'm trying to lose weight but am lifting at the same time, should I drink milk, if so how much. [I purchased an organic whole milk that is vat-pasteurized at 145, from grass-fed, non-homogenized, no hormones, and grade A (whatever that means) and try and stick to a glass a day with maybe 2 glasses on days I workout.]
Second question is about the butter, is it ok to use or not. I am trying not to use it often but a few recipes sort of need it. I bought the brand kerrygold, unsalted because I seen it recommended on another site. Looked for Ghee in the store but didnt see any, I would have gotten that instead [if Ghee is a lot better though I read that you can make your own from the butter so i could do that].
Anyways that was a long post but thanks for the inspiration everyone and I'll try and chime in more often : )
Starting Strength along with paleo will do wonders for you. I've always felt that pure weightlifting was an ideal way to change your body composition (less bodyfat and more muscles).
Post whatever is on your mind here, it will help you in the long run.
@Tendence: maybe I should...there is I think a small Icelandic rugby club. Looks fun.
Yeh, go for it. Rugby combines the requirements from other ball-team-sports (stamina, le brains, teamplay, stamina, tactics, stamina, quickness and stamina) with the contest of 1 man vs the other... So every pound of musclemeat you gain, helps you (unless you overdo it). Especially if you play in a position like I do (google: Tighthead Prop/ Prop)
Try it, it's fun.
I live in zürich
dunno, I already play table tennis... not as manly I know, but still good fun
Funny, because the only other guy i reguluarrly (ouch wrong) play SC2 together also plays table tennis...
If you're interested to come and see some games, Sunday, 12:30 at Brunau (vis-a-vis Sihlcity)... even swiss sport television will be there, uuuh...
On April 09 2011 01:17 tendence wrote: As a new-poster here, I just want to cheer for everyone here who has started and still is training, good effort!
As a rugby player on a very intense level, I know the advantages of training, and the disadvantages of not-training. I get injured a lot in my sport and have to keep away from training, which makes me mad then. That's when one realises, how much the body is built for doing physical work, and not just brainwork.
The reason why I'm writing here, is, because I'm interested if other rugby players are here, and would like to share their season/off-season TP's.
Mines +- like this:
Offseason: Continous 3-split weights (3x a week, each muscle group once) 2x weekly intervall sprint training Loads of Whey Protein, Creatine, BCAA and Beer!
Season: 2x weekly team training 1x weekly 80 min game with 1st team 1x weekly half a game 2nd team 2x weekly intervall sprint training or light jogging Daily Pressups, Situps, Squatjumps, Starjumps, "Burpies", ... for smaller muscle power
Share, critizise or just ignore
edit: also feel free to ask any training questions if you'd like
Hello fellow rugger ;D What position you play? edit: Just saw your a prop! Whats your size and weight? I'm a center ~6'1 94kg My training is usually Mon Wed Fri - Olympic weightlifting consisting of clean and jerks, snatches, and squats. Tues Wed Thurs - Team training Saturdays - Game day
I do this pretty much year round. Just realized that my "off season" is basically two months in the winter when i don't have access to rugby rofl
Lol, went out and got absolutely pissed last night. Ended up skipping work and getting shit for it, still went training while I was hungover as shit. Man that makes you sober so fast!
Hello fellow rugger ;D What position you play? edit: Just saw your a prop! Whats your size and weight? I'm a center ~6'1 94kg My training is usually Mon Wed Fri - Olympic weightlifting consisting of clean and jerks, snatches, and squats. Tues Wed Thurs - Team training Saturdays - Game day
I do this pretty much year round. Just realized that my "off season" is basically two months in the winter when i don't have access to rugby rofl
Aay, yeh, Propedipropprop... i'm 1.90m, and just dropped from 119 to 109 kg... working on the possibility to become a flanker... but yeh, until this, prop...
here, we have quite a long off-season, in fact, we have two... Juni-September and December-Feb... Thats why I can then fully focus on gaining muscle/rebuilding strenght, and then trying to obtain it during season (which works pretty well)... I tried to combine a 3split with 2 trains per week and 1-2 games, but had a complete physical breakdown.... was a bit too much i guess...
Hello fellow rugger ;D What position you play? edit: Just saw your a prop! Whats your size and weight? I'm a center ~6'1 94kg My training is usually Mon Wed Fri - Olympic weightlifting consisting of clean and jerks, snatches, and squats. Tues Wed Thurs - Team training Saturdays - Game day
I do this pretty much year round. Just realized that my "off season" is basically two months in the winter when i don't have access to rugby rofl
Aay, yeh, Propedipropprop... i'm 1.90m, and just dropped from 119 to 109 kg... working on the possibility to become a flanker... but yeh, until this, prop...
here, we have quite a long off-season, in fact, we have two... Juni-September and December-Feb... Thats why I can then fully focus on gaining muscle/rebuilding strenght, and then trying to obtain it during season (which works pretty well)... I tried to combine a 3split with 2 trains per week and 1-2 games, but had a complete physical breakdown.... was a bit too much i guess...
I hear rugby is booming in the US, right?
It's getting a lot bigger especially with the olympics and such, pretty much every university has a team and more and more high schools are incorporating it. I'm thinking about trying to add ~10 more kilos and move over to flanker(or just being a bigger center) next year...its a lot of fun Just had like a 2 hour workout despite eating 10 pieces of pizza and like 20 beers last night (team drink off ) After i chop up some vids i'll put em up, criticize my snatch! (finally got a vid of me hitting 105)
Here we are, 6 of my lifts, was pretty tired by the time i was hitting 110 T_T Hit 105 earlier too after sitting in the hole for like 5 seconds waiting for the weight to settle before i could stand T_T
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