EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 158
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
On April 09 2011 09:59 sJarl wrote: Nice lifts Decaf, especially the 105kg! Took a midnight deadlift session, week 6 of Coan-Philipi. Deadlift: 187,5kg x 2. Next time I will deadlift well rested...the vid says it all. Speed dead: 3 sets of 155kg x 3 with 120 sec rest intervals. Power Shrugs: 2 sets of 120kg x 5 Cut it short there and did some neutral grip pullups, BW x 5 and BW+10kg x 6 (+1 rep!!). ...sigh. Not good. Maybe it was just me but I was getting worried about your back lol  | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On April 09 2011 20:12 Kickstart wrote: Ah ok thanks for the response eshlow. Just to clarify because I really am lost when it comes to anything about nutrition D:, should one just drink milk when trying to gain weight. (for some reason I was also under the impression that drinking milk helps muscle recovery, is that not the case?) Yeah, milk is a great weight gainer. If you're going to use it when you're losing weight then you should definitely take it post workout because that's when your body needs the nutrients the most | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On April 09 2011 14:16 tendence wrote: We have quite a few people of your build and size who are struggling to gain weight. The most important thing to gain muscle weight, is not to train too much. Each big muscle group should be trained only once a week, but I'm sure you know that. Also, resting days are important. I don't know how you stand to supplements, but of course they help. Creatine, Whey and other gainers will definitly do a big part in achieving this goal. Just: Take the instructions (like "Take one spoon of X per day") and quadruple it  ... or first double it, then triple... I hope that the world cup and the olympics also boost popularity here even more. It has already gained some, but still, no chance against le soccer... For now, we have like three quarters of our team whos from abroad (GB, Canada, Aus/NZ, SA), and a couple of Swiss fellas (most with british roots, like myself) No... just no. You should not be doing splits unless you have a huge volume of work for a sport or are past advanced in strength. Full body 2-3x a week sometimes even 4 times a week is much superior. | ||
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ModernAgeShaman
Norway484 Posts
On April 10 2011 00:46 eshlow wrote: No... just no. You should not be doing splits unless you have a huge volume of work for a sport or are past advanced in strength. Full body 2-3x a week sometimes even 4 times a week is much superior. what is this based off of? do you have any empirical evidence that shows full body 4x a week > splits? or that full body > splits in general? I'm not talking about novices here, obviously SS has proven you can squat 3x a week and make gains for a while. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I bench or do deadlift etc, there's no way in hell I'm fully recovered before about 6-7 days. Thereby, I only train a muscle group once a week on a split. I used to do it much more frequently and I got no where. my two cents | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On April 09 2011 22:45 Necosarius wrote: Maybe it was just me but I was getting worried about your back lol Well I have no idea what makes you think that... On a serious note: I'll make sure to be rested the next time since I'll be going for 10kg more then ^^ @Zafrumi: Happy birthday man | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On April 10 2011 02:32 Sinep wrote: what is this based off of? do you have any empirical evidence that shows full body 4x a week > splits? or that full body > splits in general? I'm not talking about novices here, obviously SS has proven you can squat 3x a week and make gains for a while. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I bench or do deadlift etc, there's no way in hell I'm fully recovered before about 6-7 days. Thereby, I only train a muscle group once a week on a split. I used to do it much more frequently and I got no where. my two cents Uhhh, don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm pretty sure we agree. novices and intermediates do best on full body whether strength or mass Advanced/elite it depends on a lot of factors including what sports are involved, how much skill training, how close you are to your genetic maximum, program structure, volume/frequency of training programs, etc. the guy I was responding to specifically said without any qualifications of level of strength/ability/etc. We have quite a few people of your build and size who are struggling to gain weight. The most important thing to gain muscle weight, is not to train too much. Each big muscle group should be trained only once a week, but I'm sure you know that. Also, resting days are important. Judging by the "struggling of build/size and weight" that is generally referring to people of novice ability. I think my answer is justified there.. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On April 09 2011 19:22 Energies wrote: Protip, when a gay bloke tells you your ass looks good in those jeans.. buy it. LOL awesome tip. On April 09 2011 19:37 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: Yeah, I've had this experience quite a few times. It sucks buying new jeans when you have an actually decent amount of muscle mass on your legs. I simply have to buy jeans that are loose in the waist. lol, try shopping in America as a tall guy. I found 52"/28" pants, but NEVER 34"/36" pants. Something's wrong with a country when stores sell pants for guys with 52 inch waists but not for guys with 36 inch legs.. ya, my favorite pair of jeans are way too big at the waist for this exact reason  On April 09 2011 17:47 Zafrumi wrote: ditch the curls and do some chin ups if you really want to train your biceps add deadlifts and some sort of shoulder exercise (overhead press) to your programme actually just do one of the programms in the OP preferrably starting strength or variations thereofWent to the gym with a few friends today and one of the topics that came up was that I gotta reincorporate pullups / chinups into my routine. Going to put them on a few weekdays I think Anyways, lifted today at 9am ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/8A7HL.png) Had my friend watch my squat form. First set was pretty solid, but esp on the 3rd set, I was starting to help the weight up with my back. He said it wasn't something that would cause injury atm, but it's something I gotta look out for. (forgot to bring a camera to record a video) I think it's time to def upload a video for critique here when I go for 255lbs next week. Military press - fail. what's new. Deadlift - Massive success, didn't have to drop the bar, straight up set of 5 reps @ 275lbs. Was yelling pretty loud tho LOL. Stretched, showered, hopped over to the market next door and downed a bottle of raw milk, ate 2 eggs, and now I'm going to crash while watching TSL3 in a stupor. Awesome fucking Saturday imo.  Also, I had a few beers last night and I swear it affected my strength / energy during my lifts today X_X | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Also, what do you think about lifting weights during the off-day? Should I use that day to really rest up or can I still hit the gym? | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
Just wondering if you an answer a question. My father has had an accident where he damage his lower back and spine in particular. It's pretty difficult for me to explain, but it seems to have moved caused some permanent damage. He's seen quite a few doctors and special clinics for help but no luck so far. Usually it helps when he gets medicated, but just wondering if there are any exercises or alternatives. Sorry that this is rather vague, but it couldn't be described as a discus prolapse and I don't think they could give a specific diagnosis. | ||
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tendence
Switzerland61 Posts
the guy I was responding to specifically said without any qualifications of level of strength/ability/etc. Judging by the "struggling of build/size and weight" that is generally referring to people of novice ability. I think my answer is justified there.. I agree that 3Split isn't what novices should go after at all. But I didn't say that. Just because people have problem gaining, doesn't make them novice at all. I am talking of people who play rugby with me and are very well aware of what they're doing and what they're eating. We have professional physiotherapists and some guys who work on the medical field, but the thing that shows most that _what I said_ works, is experience. So don't just say strictly no, there are other people here, who do very well know what they're talking about. cheers | ||
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Anabolicqt
United States69 Posts
On April 10 2011 05:07 Souma wrote: Hey guys, planning on starting up the Insanity workout this week with a friend of mine. Has anyone completed this program and have any tips? Also, what do you think about lifting weights during the off-day? Should I use that day to really rest up or can I still hit the gym? I did insanity with my girlfriend a little bit ago and all I can say is it is completely nuts. They aren't lying when they say you will burn a ton of calories. Even the people in the insanity video get too tired and have to stop and take a break if that tells you anything. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
Super pumped!On April 07 2011 09:58 sJarl wrote: Makes up for your mistake of hooking up with a sick girl  Also, for anyone who is having some shoulder issues or isn't having any shoulder issues this is a great vid. Shows a simple yet incredible effective way to keep your shoulders and upper back nice and good. Good thing you posted this, my left shoulder is starting to feel a bit weird Good timing! | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On April 10 2011 07:57 Anabolicqt wrote: I did insanity with my girlfriend a little bit ago and all I can say is it is completely nuts. They aren't lying when they say you will burn a ton of calories. Even the people in the insanity video get too tired and have to stop and take a break if that tells you anything. Thanks, I just tried out the Fit Test to see how it's gonna be. If I'm assuming correctly, the Fit Test is relatively easier than the other days' workouts right? Needless to say, I was pooped by the end of it. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Is this normal? | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On April 10 2011 14:26 thedeadhaji wrote: Every time I do a max-out session, I crash and sleep a few hours later due to exhaustion. Is this normal? I do the same. Actually, I feel like a good nap right now =]. Dimsum, I have a question: How do you balance front and back squats in your training? I was thinking about going ABABAB with front/back squats, on a program that looks something like this: Workout A: Front squat, 3 sets of 5 plus warmup DB Bench press, 3 sets of 5 plus warmup Power clean, 5 sets of 3 plus warmup Weighted dips, 2 sets of 6 Workout B: Back squat, 3 sets of 5 plus warmup BB OHP, 3 sets of 5 plus warmup Snatch, 5 sets of 3 plus warmup Weighted chin ups, 2 sets of 6 Madcow's failed with me... I don't think the volume and progression rates are ideal for my level. This seems like it would be a good way of maintaining strength while losing bodyfat. What do you think? | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Only squatted apparently. Went for 1300 but missed depth. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
Well, I weigh at a measly 110 pounds and I want to commence a weight gain program for myself. I was wondering, are there any particular foods that I should consume more of? Like for example I noticed on the top of this page people mentioning milk and it's helpfulness in gaining weight. Also, what is the best supplement for someone of my situation who only cares about gaining muscle mass, not caring about endurance or things like that. Do calisthenics help in muscle gain? Or is weights the only option here? Thanks for your time! | ||
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DavidMcF
United Kingdom189 Posts
On April 10 2011 17:32 Kamais_Ookin wrote: Hello TL veterans of health and fitness! Well, I weigh at a measly 110 pounds and I want to commence a weight gain program for myself. I was wondering, are there any particular foods that I should consume more of? Like for example I noticed on the top of this page people mentioning milk and it's helpfulness in gaining weight. Also, what is the best supplement for someone of my situation who only cares about gaining muscle mass, not caring about endurance or things like that. Do calisthenics help in muscle gain? Or is weights the only option here? Thanks for your time! ALL FOODS CONSUME MORE You want to bulk up like fuck? Just eat a LOT more. Focus on 'healthier' but dont worry about it - just eat fucking loads A weight gainer, but everyone wants some whey protein too. Calisthenics will help yes but they are slower and you wont get as big as fast | ||
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