I really looks like you just are terribly out of shape (posting a pic would tell us more ) A good call would be doing Starting Strength and some serious eating. (info about that in OP)
I don't think that was anything specific that caused the nausea apart from your body being shocked from being put to use.
Eat and rest. Then go for it 2-3 days after the last workout and while you might not feel great you definetly will feel better than last time.
Weightlifting helps for the pushups but you can also add in some pushups onto a higher surface (like having your toes on the ground and hands on a bench).
@Malinor: Koklayev is a monster. He loves doing stuff like this. I think it started when he tore his biceps and less than a week after the surgery he was back in the weightroom but only one functional arm. So he squatted using only one arm.
On April 03 2011 15:52 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: What do you guys think about the seated behind the neck overhead press?
I was doing it at the gym today and it felt amazing. Of course it was my first time and I'm starting light at 50kgx5 (usually can do standing OHP of 65kgx5), but I think I want to keep this exercise up.
Don't like anything behind the neck whether it's presses/jerks/pullups/etc. Too much potential for injuries. If you're serious weightlifter and have 5+ years of technique behind you then sure...
Agree with eshlow on the behind the neck issue. If you can do it fine but it is risky and I for one fuck up my shoulders doing it.
Great workout today, week 5 of Coan-Philipi. Practiced putting tension into the bar before I started the lift to make it more explosive.
Deadlift: worked up to 175kg x 2. First rep was silly fast but when I went to do the second one it wouldn't budge so I had to setup again and then it wen't as planned. Speed dead: 3 sets of 142,kg x 3. Safe, solid and pretty damn fast. At least the first set... -I was supposed to do some shrugs but forgot to, lol- Stiff-leg dead: 120kg x 5, 130kg x 5 and 135kg x 5. !!! Highest I had gone before was like 125kg. Used straps and oh my how that helps. BB Row: 3 sets of 70kg x 5. Went easy on the rows since they have been messing up my shoulders. Pulldowns: 12pl x 5, 13pl x 5, 14pl x 5. Good Mornings: 2 sets of 80kg x 5 and 85kg x 5. A +5kg PR!
Great session and a good way to make up an unproductive day that was yesterday.
On April 03 2011 15:52 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: What do you guys think about the seated behind the neck overhead press?
I was doing it at the gym today and it felt amazing. Of course it was my first time and I'm starting light at 50kgx5 (usually can do standing OHP of 65kgx5), but I think I want to keep this exercise up.
Don't like anything behind the neck whether it's presses/jerks/pullups/etc. Too much potential for injuries. If you're serious weightlifter and have 5+ years of technique behind you then sure...
Don't like upright rows either
Got it.
I'll stick to those front presses then. It was fun trying out a new movement, but I guess I'll just settle for seated front pressing for now.
Thanks a lot everyone. I'll do that and see what happens.
Yeah unless you get this feeling for more workouts in the future, it's pretty much just your body going from not moving at all -> strenuous work and not being used to it. Also most new people don't eat anywhere near enough what they should when following a lifting program, so take a look at that.
Once you get to the point where you aren't dead tired doing these bodyweight warmups/exercises, try out SS like everyone says- and honestly I'd expect to get through it in just a couple of sessions, unless you're just not sleeping or eating at all
From what I see in the gym, most people don't have the flexibility for behind the neck stuff. Other than more variety, I don't even see the point of a lot of behind the neck stuff unless you want to work on your overhead position.
I think squat form is starting to suffer a bit as I increase in weight. Pretty sure I can handle a bit more weight overall.
Military press is just mega hard for me. I'll just keep going at it I guess. As the reps go on, it becomes physically impossible to lift the damn bar up X_X
Deadlift - Couldnt' perform a straight up 5 rep set, so I had to put down the weight for abotu 5-10 seconds between each rep. Massive amounts of grunting getting this one out
haji... your squat go up so fast, wtf O_O
I'm gonna get into beast mode once I return from Cancun next week
I think squat form is starting to suffer a bit as I increase in weight. Pretty sure I can handle a bit more weight overall.
Military press is just mega hard for me. I'll just keep going at it I guess. As the reps go on, it becomes physically impossible to lift the damn bar up X_X
Deadlift - Couldnt' perform a straight up 5 rep set, so I had to put down the weight for abotu 5-10 seconds between each rep. Massive amounts of grunting getting this one out
haji... your squat go up so fast, wtf O_O
I'm gonna get into beast mode once I return from Cancun next week
Hey Cambium~
I used to be able to do 400lbs+ on the leg press machine during HS, (I knew nothing back then and just did this all the time, thinking it'd be good for soccer -_-) which was like 10 yrs ago but the foundation was made during that time Hence my thighs have always been large, making finding pants in Japan maddeningly difficult!!
Squat weight is currently being hindered by back str though
Oh and before I went to the gym yesterday I volunteered at Habitat for Humanity for 3 hrs nailing shit together and hauling lumber, so today I wake up and my right hand is pretty dead X_X
On April 04 2011 01:51 AoN.DimSum wrote: From what I see in the gym, most people don't have the flexibility for behind the neck stuff. Other than more variety, I don't even see the point of a lot of behind the neck stuff unless you want to work on your overhead position.
If you're able to do clean ohs and squat jerks relatively comfortably, do you pretty much have the requisite flexibility to do btn press?
On April 04 2011 01:51 AoN.DimSum wrote: From what I see in the gym, most people don't have the flexibility for behind the neck stuff. Other than more variety, I don't even see the point of a lot of behind the neck stuff unless you want to work on your overhead position.
If you're able to do clean ohs and squat jerks relatively comfortably, do you pretty much have the requisite flexibility to do btn press?
Well yes, but if you are comfortable with that then I see no reason to do btn press. I experimented with btn snatch press and stuff like that but I dont see much carryover unless you want variety once in awhile. Regular grip press btn is fine. The only behind the neck stuff I do regularly is jerks since its easier to drop the weight on your traps then your front shoulders.
Need a cool story to tell people instead of "I was playing soccer in my buddies basement while waiting for pong or flip cup and kicked the ground on accident." Gogogo
So I'm gonna guess squats are out. Would leg extensions and curls make up for that? Or should I try leg press...?
On April 02 2011 12:55 eshlow wrote: Hmmm, if its on the musculature you should feel it when you move and it should be pretty sore/tight like muscles get
Yours sounds more like it could be SI joint related.. may not be a bad idea to get it checked out by a PT if you can get to one
Thanks for the help. I still don`t know what it is. The pain is almost completely gone now (I`ve also been doing all the exercises) in my lower back but now my left leg is starting to hurt. It`s as if I pulled something. Might have pulled something doing the stretches though lol. I`ll see how this week`s lifts go before seeing a doctor.
Catch, that looks like a nasty bruise you got there. I`ve seen what torn pecs look like (Nasty, swollen and purply). And it looks like you at least got a strain there.
your toe might not actually be broken. my smaller toe was like that for weeks once after I stubbed it badly but it wasn't broken. didn't really limit me much.
you could go to a doctor just to check if it really is broken or not. Alternatively, you could just try squatting with a bar to see if it actually bothers you
Went to the gym today, felt good lifting. Did 150lb squats 115lb bench and then did chin ups (since i fail badly at power cleans so im switching to chins/pulls sun/thurs with deadlift every tuesday).
When i was squatting though i noticed a pain in my right arm (i think its due to inflexibility, but im not 100% sure). Its basically if you hold your right arm straight forward with your fingers extended and palm facing down, from your elbow to your shoulder. Right in the middle there that muscle or whatever hurts when im in the squatting position with my elbows up and arms is a narrower position on the bar. To accomodate ive been using a wider stance but if i just need to do simple stretches to get rid of this i would gladly do that.
On April 04 2011 01:51 AoN.DimSum wrote: From what I see in the gym, most people don't have the flexibility for behind the neck stuff. Other than more variety, I don't even see the point of a lot of behind the neck stuff unless you want to work on your overhead position.
If you're able to do clean ohs and squat jerks relatively comfortably, do you pretty much have the requisite flexibility to do btn press?
Well yes, but if you are comfortable with that then I see no reason to do btn press. I experimented with btn snatch press and stuff like that but I dont see much carryover unless you want variety once in awhile. Regular grip press btn is fine. The only behind the neck stuff I do regularly is jerks since its easier to drop the weight on your traps then your front shoulders.
YES! My coach introduced me to the sots press. I do these every single workout and it's helped immensely with shoulder mobility. After doing these, I have 0 discomfort in CGOHS after sufficient warmup up. I still come forward on my toes while pressing it up with just a little weight on the bar though. It's an insanely hard exercise though, only myself and 2 other people at my oly gym were able to do the mens bar.
It's coming along well, but like I said before, I miss behind a lot even with lightish weights. I seem to be over-rotate a little bit. I mostly need to get the feel for the squat jerks and get it to a high % of my split jerk (my power jerk is about even/slightly ahead of split), then I'll probably do most of them "Shi Zhiyong" style, and just try to power jerk everything and catch above parallel but be able to ride it down to a full squat if I need to. A lot of power jerkers like Dimas and Kahki had problems losing the bar if it ever rode them down past parallel.
I'm 5'11 with arms a little on the long side, so I don't know if this will work out, but I figure if I decide to switch back to splitting the extra shoulder mobility and overhead strength will help me with delivering the bar to the right spot behind the ears.
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