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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
November 22 2021 03:32 GMT
#301
On November 22 2021 03:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2021 03:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ugh the one time we finally get a Maru/Serral final I have to leave to work.


Dont worry its going to be shit. Expect 4:1 or 4:2 Serral. His style is good against Maru and in these conditions, Maru just isnt that great in these long drawn out style tournies. It was quite apparent against Dark when he made a lot of mistakes he wouldnt have done in top condition.


You were saying?

Games sounded like they were amazing. Congratulations Maru. Hands down without question the best Terran in the world right now, and very strong case for the strongest player in the world right now with back to back tournament wins.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-22 03:55:50
November 22 2021 03:45 GMT
#302
Wow, what a performance by Maru! I thought he would make mistakes and get crushed, but every game was a slugfest and hard fought battle. I can't believe Maru himself said that he made some mistakes as I thought he had a flawless late-game.

His army compositions were so complex. There were widow mines, liberators, ghosts, tanks, missile turrets, and PFs. Then when the brood lords came, he changed to thors and blue-flame hell bats... I mean, that is as complex as it can get, and Maru controlled all of them so perfectly! He knew when to split off a small army to snipe a base or two or sacrifice a ghost to EMP the infestors. He knew when to disengage and fight in another area. Man, just all around near perfect late-game. He put on a TvZ lategame clinic today.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-22 05:26:25
November 22 2021 04:38 GMT
#303
Maru is the GOAT, just looks like its some entity playing the race, unreal engagements and gamesense even at high ping. Its not like watching the very best of other races play where it looks like they're playing the standard script for the race, but doing it very well. Maru playing Terran looks like he has figured out another way to play the race, a way lesser players can't even try. Cure, TY and Clem could not turtle with ghosts this well, they're either not fast enough or clever enough to pull it off. It was clear this guy was something else when he held Effort's roach cheese against all odds in 2012. I hope Maru can keep playing at this peak to get his overdue World Champion title.

Seriously, what the hell is this?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
November 22 2021 05:23 GMT
#304
On November 22 2021 12:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2021 03:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On November 22 2021 03:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ugh the one time we finally get a Maru/Serral final I have to leave to work.


Dont worry its going to be shit. Expect 4:1 or 4:2 Serral. His style is good against Maru and in these conditions, Maru just isnt that great in these long drawn out style tournies. It was quite apparent against Dark when he made a lot of mistakes he wouldnt have done in top condition.


You were saying?

Games sounded like they were amazing. Congratulations Maru. Hands down without question the best Terran in the world right now, and very strong case for the strongest player in the world right now with back to back tournament wins.


I was looking for you. remember me who said maru 3-0'd serral when serral says that koreans dont give him so much of hard time lol.

that being said serral fought well and you gave accolades to the player who performed better. you have my respect.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6947 Posts
November 22 2021 12:48 GMT
#305
Maru played incredible and deserved to win. Serral ran headfirst into a brick wall too many times today.
Never utilizing his double nydus, no runbys. In game 6, Marus 3 o'clock base was an orbital with mass mules and NO defensive units. 10 lings would have decimated that in an instant. But Maru kept Serral busy in the lategame.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
AlphaXSushi
Profile Joined September 2017
838 Posts
November 22 2021 14:13 GMT
#306
Thanks to everyone who watched the event!

VOD for the Grand Finals up on our Youtube alongside other series from the tournament!

tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
November 22 2021 14:16 GMT
#307
On November 22 2021 21:48 Harris1st wrote:
Maru played incredible and deserved to win. Serral ran headfirst into a brick wall too many times today.
Never utilizing his double nydus, no runbys. In game 6, Marus 3 o'clock base was an orbital with mass mules and NO defensive units. 10 lings would have decimated that in an instant. But Maru kept Serral busy in the lategame.

Serral was dead-on for a late game fight in that game from how I look at it. Its a very rare sight to see both side getting a huge bank of 8k Mineral + 5k Gas in TvZ without trading much before that. Its like Serral trying to make a statement that he can win lategame against Terran, going for the exact same BLord composition that he lost in previous game as well.
starvingbox1
Profile Joined July 2021
18 Posts
November 22 2021 14:31 GMT
#308
On November 22 2021 03:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2021 03:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ugh the one time we finally get a Maru/Serral final I have to leave to work.


Dont worry its going to be shit. Expect 4:1 or 4:2 Serral. His style is good against Maru and in these conditions, Maru just isnt that great in these long drawn out style tournies. It was quite apparent against Dark when he made a lot of mistakes he wouldnt have done in top condition.


Oof
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
November 22 2021 15:22 GMT
#309
Its always the tournaments I don't watch that Maru beats Serral. god dammit maru
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
November 22 2021 16:56 GMT
#310
I can't help but notice a distinct lack of drama in this thread following this result. I can't say why that is, but it seems like with most end of tournament results there's a bunch of balance whining or argument about players status, but this one is one of those rare ones where just everyone is in agreement.

No conclusions, just an observation.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 22 2021 18:29 GMT
#311
On November 22 2021 23:16 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2021 21:48 Harris1st wrote:
Maru played incredible and deserved to win. Serral ran headfirst into a brick wall too many times today.
Never utilizing his double nydus, no runbys. In game 6, Marus 3 o'clock base was an orbital with mass mules and NO defensive units. 10 lings would have decimated that in an instant. But Maru kept Serral busy in the lategame.

Serral was dead-on for a late game fight in that game from how I look at it. Its a very rare sight to see both side getting a huge bank of 8k Mineral + 5k Gas in TvZ without trading much before that. Its like Serral trying to make a statement that he can win lategame against Terran, going for the exact same BLord composition that he lost in previous game as well.


It reminded me of what happened against Innovation at Katowice and WESG in 2019.

On November 23 2021 01:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
I can't help but notice a distinct lack of drama in this thread following this result. I can't say why that is, but it seems like with most end of tournament results there's a bunch of balance whining or argument about players status, but this one is one of those rare ones where just everyone is in agreement.

No conclusions, just an observation.


Well, remarking that people are always very enthusiastic about Maru would be pointless.
I don't like Maru's statements and the Cult of Holy Mary, his overzealous followers(always so eager to find excuses before the matches are even played...), but I do like how he plays and I greatly respect his skill.
You can't really object that Maru was amazing this tournament, that he won fair and square and that he would be the best candidate if we had to indicate who's the best player in the world right now; also, I liked the fact that defeated players weren't bashed in the LR this time, unlike it happened more than once in the past.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-22 21:36:50
November 22 2021 21:36 GMT
#312
On November 23 2021 01:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
I can't help but notice a distinct lack of drama in this thread following this result. I can't say why that is, but it seems like with most end of tournament results there's a bunch of balance whining or argument about players status, but this one is one of those rare ones where just everyone is in agreement.

No conclusions, just an observation.


We've gone soft in our old age, that or we scared all the foreigner fans away.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 22 2021 23:09 GMT
#313
On November 23 2021 01:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
I can't help but notice a distinct lack of drama in this thread following this result. I can't say why that is, but it seems like with most end of tournament results there's a bunch of balance whining or argument about players status, but this one is one of those rare ones where just everyone is in agreement.

No conclusions, just an observation.

What can ya say. Maru did beat the current WC, the former WCs and won the finals while watching a sunrise in Korea. (almost) It's hard to find issues with that. Then he rode into the sundownsunrise and fell asleep
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 23 2021 01:00 GMT
#314
So Maru has undisputed best TvT, undisputed best TvZ, and now Super Tournament is looking like there's a decent chance he will have to TvP his way to the championship there.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 23 2021 01:06 GMT
#315
On November 23 2021 10:00 Pandain wrote:
So Maru has undisputed best TvT, undisputed best TvZ, and now Super Tournament is looking like there's a decent chance he will have to TvP his way to the championship there.


Definitely not undisputed best TvZ.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
November 23 2021 01:34 GMT
#316
On November 23 2021 10:06 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 10:00 Pandain wrote:
So Maru has undisputed best TvT, undisputed best TvZ, and now Super Tournament is looking like there's a decent chance he will have to TvP his way to the championship there.


Definitely not undisputed best TvZ.


Lol I knew this was coming. OK let's argue who else in that top tier because I think Maru has top tier TvZ even you can't argue that. And we have pros like Scarlett who say he is the toughest opponent on ladder. I'd be very curious to hear who you think has a better TvZ and why.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-23 02:29:41
November 23 2021 02:27 GMT
#317
On November 23 2021 10:06 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 10:00 Pandain wrote:
So Maru has undisputed best TvT, undisputed best TvZ, and now Super Tournament is looking like there's a decent chance he will have to TvP his way to the championship there.


Definitely not undisputed best TvZ.


Clem has a pretty atrocious record vs Reynor in the last few months. Obviously it's only one match but Maru beat him convincingly yesterday. I think that alone puts Maru ahead. I'm also pretty sure Maru is ahead in map score vs Serral and Rogue as well relative to Clem in results from the last 3 months or so.

And also that Serral bashing you alluded to above only happens in your head. Saying he's not the goat or that he's overrated based on his results isn't bashing. If you want to see real player bashing look at Reddit after a high profile Maru loss.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-23 02:38:43
November 23 2021 02:35 GMT
#318
On November 23 2021 11:27 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 10:06 Xain0n wrote:
On November 23 2021 10:00 Pandain wrote:
So Maru has undisputed best TvT, undisputed best TvZ, and now Super Tournament is looking like there's a decent chance he will have to TvP his way to the championship there.


Definitely not undisputed best TvZ.


And also that Serral bashing you alluded to above only happens in your head. Saying he's not the goat or that he's overrated based on his results isn't bashing. If you want to see real player bashing look at Reddit after a high profile Maru loss.


Truth. Xainon has even admitted as much in twitch chat before. He's hyper defensive of Serral. I'll never understand why, but he is. It's like a religion. Serral HAS to be the goat. If he isn't there's something super wrong, when by no metric he is.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 23 2021 04:03 GMT
#319
"Undisputed" means that there is no contest and Clem is a serious contender.
Maru did not qualify for NEXT because of his TvZ losses just a couple of weeks ago, let me remind you of that.
This is exactly the point, you guys love Mary so much that everything he does is magnified to the extreme: "Maru's TvT has been outstanding in 2021, he was surely better than TY" or "Maru just won a tournament by defeating all the top Zerg so his TvZ prowess must be unmatchable".

I am obviously not speaking of opinions for which Serral is not the GOAT(perfectly fine, I wouldn't say he is) or that he is overrated based on his results(ridicolously wrong and borderline blasphemous, still a "legit" opinion).
I speak of actual player bashing which happened for years, such a frail memory you guys have.

Whatever I may have admitted on Twitch, Vindicare, I can assure it's not what you made me say here.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-23 05:14:03
November 23 2021 05:12 GMT
#320
On November 23 2021 11:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 11:27 JJH777 wrote:
On November 23 2021 10:06 Xain0n wrote:
On November 23 2021 10:00 Pandain wrote:
So Maru has undisputed best TvT, undisputed best TvZ, and now Super Tournament is looking like there's a decent chance he will have to TvP his way to the championship there.


Definitely not undisputed best TvZ.


And also that Serral bashing you alluded to above only happens in your head. Saying he's not the goat or that he's overrated based on his results isn't bashing. If you want to see real player bashing look at Reddit after a high profile Maru loss.


Truth. Xainon has even admitted as much in twitch chat before. He's hyper defensive of Serral. I'll never understand why, but he is. It's like a religion. Serral HAS to be the goat. If he isn't there's something super wrong, when by no metric he is.


It is not just in the twitch chat. The cult has spreading to Youtube chat yesterday as well even he is not competing. It is so annoying and unfair to the players competing, and the cult keep chanting 'that man' all over the place.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
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