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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 23 2017 17:22 GMT
#741
All of the "GSL" titles are simply conflation arising from the usage of the same three-letter acronym. A Code S is not the same as a Super Tournament, a World Championship, a Cataclysm, or any other fancy name given to a weekender that happens to be run by GOM or Afreeca.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 23 2017 17:22 GMT
#742
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

People have never been consistent about this stuff. Have you seen what counted for a premier in the early days?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 17:23:05
July 23 2017 17:22 GMT
#743
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

What community? The only claim I ever saw about the special events counting as GSLs was Mvp's G5L trophy, but even then it was a bold claim.

I propose a motion to say "starleague titles" now instead of "GSL" and "SSL" to differ actual tournaments from the ones soO could win.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 23 2017 17:23 GMT
#744
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

What community? The only claim I ever saw about the special events counting as GSLs was Mvp's G5L trophy, but even then it was a bold claim.


GOM literally made a special G5L trophy because that's how the community counted.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 23 2017 17:23 GMT
#745
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

What community? The only claim I ever saw about the special events counting as GSLs was Mvp's G5L trophy, but even then it was a bold claim.

Stuchiu = the community
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 23 2017 17:23 GMT
#746
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

Denial of evolutionary biology is also popular and consistent. Doesn't make it correct.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
July 23 2017 17:23 GMT
#747
I don't think I've seen anyone referring to Life as a 3× GSL winner.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 17:24:49
July 23 2017 17:23 GMT
#748
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

I propose a motion to say "starleague titles" now instead of "GSL" and "SSL" to differ actual tournaments from the ones soO could win.

I second that
would make easier for people to not forget Maru won a GSL (ok, an OSL, but we all know that was the same except the stupid bo1 ro32)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2017 17:24 GMT
#749
On July 24 2017 02:23 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
[quote]
why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

What community? The only claim I ever saw about the special events counting as GSLs was Mvp's G5L trophy, but even then it was a bold claim.

Stuchiu = the community

"I retroactively award Mvp GSL Open Season 1 because he didn't play and would have beaten Fruitdealer" - stuchiu
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 23 2017 17:24 GMT
#750
On July 24 2017 02:24 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:23 GumBa wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
[quote]
I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

What community? The only claim I ever saw about the special events counting as GSLs was Mvp's G5L trophy, but even then it was a bold claim.

Stuchiu = the community

"I retroactively award Mvp GSL Open Season 1 because he didn't play and would have beaten Fruitdealer" - stuchiu

5x champ confirmed
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
July 23 2017 17:24 GMT
#751
On July 24 2017 02:23 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

Denial of evolutionary biology is also popular and consistent. Doesn't make it correct.

I applaud your scientific wisdom and straight-forwardness.
Faker is the GOAT!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 23 2017 17:24 GMT
#752
On July 24 2017 02:23 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

Denial of evolutionary biology is also popular and consistent. Doesn't make it correct.


That's a stupid argument. One is a denial of proven facts, the other is you pushing your criteria down others' throats.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2017 17:24 GMT
#753
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?

I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.

*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true!

why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

What community? The only claim I ever saw about the special events counting as GSLs was Mvp's G5L trophy, but even then it was a bold claim.

I propose a motion to say "starleague titles" now instead of "GSL" and "SSL" to differ actual tournaments from the ones soO could win.

you will just make the BW community even more butthurt
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 23 2017 17:24 GMT
#754
On July 24 2017 02:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
[quote]
why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

I propose a motion to say "starleague titles" now instead of "GSL" and "SSL" to differ actual tournaments from the ones soO could win.

I second that

Third (and I will note that I have used "Starleague" as such before, as Olli will remember from my heated argument with him).
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[PkF] Wire
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France24203 Posts
July 23 2017 17:25 GMT
#755
but is LRSL a Starleague ?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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July 23 2017 17:25 GMT
#756
On July 24 2017 02:24 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:23 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
[quote]
why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

Denial of evolutionary biology is also popular and consistent. Doesn't make it correct.


That's a stupid argument. One is a denial of proven facts, the other is you pushing your criteria down others' throats.


Please, tell me how a 32-player tournament played over the course of multiple months is functionally or in any other way identical to a 16-player (or less!) weekender.

Proven facts.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 23 2017 17:25 GMT
#757
Now for the 2 Koreans to bop the puny foreigners :[
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
July 23 2017 17:25 GMT
#758
On July 24 2017 02:23 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:22 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:
[quote]
why is this surprising

I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent.

But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU.


Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion.

vs soO, vs TY, and ?

And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG


It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life.

Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World.

It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion.


And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent.

What community? The only claim I ever saw about the special events counting as GSLs was Mvp's G5L trophy, but even then it was a bold claim.

Stuchiu = the community

I can verify that Stuchiu is always right.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 23 2017 17:26 GMT
#759
On July 24 2017 02:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
but is LRSL a Starleague ?

Of course it is. It stands for Live Report Starleague.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 23 2017 17:26 GMT
#760
On July 24 2017 02:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
but is LRSL a Starleague ?

No it's a level above.
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